Jang, I did. I reverted him once and left a message, and was in the process of rewriting the Dark Acolyte table into a list when he edit-conflicted me. That's when I left him alone and sought out an admin. CadeCalrayn 20:51, February 8, 2013 (UTC)
In the Encyclopedia it states that Maul's, as well as Opress', species are Dathomirian, not Zabrak. Also, in the BTS section of the Maul article states that his species was changed from a Zabrak to a Dathomirian. Darth Pythonis(Talk) 15:15, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
Per the discussion at the recent INQ meeting 55, I've just now gone and left personalized talk page messages to a whole whack of users, asking them to review more on the FAN page. I went for people who review a lot on the GAN page, people who nominate FANs but never review others' work, and more --- hopefully we'll be able to kick-start a reviewing revolution.
With that said, I believe I'd be remiss if I didn't extend the appeal to the Inquisitorius, as well. I'm not trying to single any one person out, and to emphasize that point, I'm leaving the exact same message on every INQ member's talk page rather than personalizing them like I did with the non-INQ mesages. Every INQ member save five, that is, and those five members have been reviewing FANs frequently enough that they don't need any sort of push like this. Everyone other than those five INQs, yourself included, has reviewed less than twelve FANs since the beginning of July (addendum specifically for Jang: I counted INQvotes, so your count only begins in September, after you became an INQ). A few meetings ago, we agreed on eight FAN reviews per month as a good number for which to strive. I've now encouraged a large number of non-INQs to review more frequently, and the Inquisitorius as a whole should be actively participating in that revolution if not leading it. So, as an INQ, please review FANs more often. Cheers, and have a great day! Menkooroo (talk) 08:11, February 11, 2013 (UTC)
Hey Jang. I disagree on that. We should try to get the vandals to do productive work, instead of shunning them. Many of them might be just testing, or even contributing in a wrong way, but in good-faith. I seriously believe the first message any user should get is a welcome, not a big, red, threatening warning sign. That's just counterproductive and scares away potential new users. Stake blackmsg 15:39, February 14, 2013 (UTC)
I've also reverted your edits to Queequeg as it is only a nickname as many of the action figure archive names are. No official name has been given to this character. Unless you can provide one. Leland Chee specifically refers to this character as "Weequay hunter" in his blog hence the addition of the CCG card "Weequay Hunter" of which the images are identical and of the same character. Thanks. Rokkur Shen (talk) 14:46, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
Sure, it makes sense. However, adding information related to the episode, which is not included anywhere else in the article, and is confirmed by Lucasfilm makes sense too. I'm still on the side of expanding the Wook, not reducing it. Hope it makes sense too. :) Cheers, --XXLVenom998(Surprise me!) 08:35, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
Could you please tell me who the hell made these rules? Just doesn't make any sense. Maybe next time we should consider to make a poll or something on voting for rules actually. --XXLVenom998(Surprise me!) 16:43, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
Anyhow, it is not just about the Jedi funeral. Sometimes any extra information would do a good service in understanding things. But you've got the point as well. However, about the episode, I link you this on IMDB, there was some misunderstanding about Poggle the Lesser and Wat Tambor (though I personally know where they appearaed), other viewers didn't get it where and when did they appear, and there were references to Wookieepedia too (you will find it in there). This is partly the reason why I think a little trivia is not always bad, it is helpful if extra information is included in the articles. Of course, I'm not talking about things like "Yoda is holding a Gimer stick while talking with Mace Windu" if you know what I mean, but when it is disputable if a character appeared in an episode, like it was on the talk page of the episode (Admiral Yularen's appearance was under a dispute), it would be useful if he is not only listed in the Appearances, but a few words are written about those who have a disputable or simply not too clear appearance (of course not talking about those who have lines like Yoda in the episode). Hope it makes my motivations clear. I only want the best, no offense! :) --XXLVenom998(Surprise me!) 17:14, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
The stuff about the Republic Police Cruiser is not trivia, at least not the part about it originally being part of another project. Besides, if we are going to report information on the Wiki, we are supposed to list ALL of it. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:16, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
What's a GA, and why should I talk to that other guy?
Good article, got it. Except it's not. Why should it ignore the Gold Six reference in TCW film, especially when Gold Six is listed on the TCW film article? And why does the top section repeat the entirety of biography section?--Rpmdkc (talk) 03:33, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
OK, I'll talk to him. But yes, it clearly says Gold Six in the opening of the movie. Did you read my edit before you reverted it? It's the same exact audio file as they used in Downfall of a Droid. There's nothing unsourced there. Should I assume I'm not allowed to edit "Good Articles?" --Rpmdkc (talk) 03:48, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
What the almighty hell? I just said my opinion about the nomination, and said facts. Could you please cite the comment which was the "rude one"? :) --XXLVenom998(Surprise me!) 19:29, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
Are you serious? Is that really considered a personal attack? Oh dear... --XXLVenom998(Surprise me!) 14:58, February 28, 2013 (UTC)
My goodness, what is up with people not allowing others to voice opinions? It's ridiculous.
My claims have been backed up by supported facts. I provided concise references as well. What makes it any different? Iteachvader (talk) 23:28, March 3, 2013 (UTC)
Hi Jang, I'm glad we were able to work out our questions about Ahsoka Tano without conflict. However, can we start a vote to change the image, maybe the HOBS one or a higher-quality promotional one, or at least crop the person to Ahsoka's right completely? His presence in the picture is rather distracting. As for the quote, I'll search for a better one and we can once again move the now-leading quote to the Christophsis section and the now-Christophsis quote to Force powers as I had them.--ID-21 Dolphin(Talk) 20:02, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Great. I just changed the picture- or did you want a vote before that? As for the quote, I wouldn't be opposed to the Ventress quote and might change it, though I still think the "Wookiee Hunt" quote describes Ahsoka's character development through the series and Anakin's great influence on her. Finally, would you have the time (I'm far too busy unfortunately) to write a quick relationships section as exists in most major character articles, covering Anakin, Lux, and maybe Padme, Plo, or Obi-Wan as well? Thanks.--ID-21 Dolphin(Talk) 21:23, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
I see. Well, nice project. Why don't you copy and paste all the longer sections that are already written into the existing article? I'll look for quotes. Since we already have a great P&T quotes, though, would you object if I put the Wookiee Hunt quote as the leading one upon showing you the other options I've found?--ID-21 Dolphin(Talk) 21:40, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Ok. How about this- I'll put the Wookiee Hunt quote for now, then show you the quotes I find, and then we can decide, perhaps making it a community vote. Honestly, I have a few problems with the Ventress quote: it describes a biased viewpoint (NPOV?) of Ahsoka as she acted in the first few episodes but doesn't describe her real personality traits or character development. Ahsoka isn't particularly filthy, sure she's obnoxious but others may call her independent-minded, and describing her as Skywalker's pet is a much more simplistic and uninteresting, in my opinion, viewpoint than the quote from Wookiee Hunt. While part of the quote is about Anakin, the part about Ahsoka not only surviving in an impossible situation but also leading others to survive showcases her character very well.--ID-21 Dolphin(Talk) 21:57, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Are there any other quotes you find good, perhaps insisting more on Ahsoka's character development?--ID-21 Dolphin(Talk) 22:25, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
How about this one? Sure, it reveals a lot about Rex as well as Ahsoka, but it does show Ahsoka's inexperience at the beginning of the war, something which her character arc changes.
Ahsoka Tano: So, if you're a captain, and I'm a Jedi, then technically I outrank you, right?
Captain Rex: I my book, experience outranks everything.
To quote Jonjedi: "Real life? What is that?" (Are we allowed to nominate Wookieepedia talk page quotes to the Other QOTD section?) Good luck.--ID-21 Dolphin(Talk) 04:29, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
Or, this one. Yes, it is another quote about Skywalker and Ahsoka, but Ahsoka's fate is so tied to the actions of other characters...
Ahsoka Tano: So, what's the plan?
Anakin Skywalker: Oh, I thought you were the one with the plan.
Ahsoka Tano: No, I'm the one with enthusiasm. You're the one with experience, which I'm looking forward to learning from.
--ID-21 Dolphin(Talk) 22:27, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
The first one is good. I'll also look at the TCW novel. JangFett(Talk) 23:38, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Great. Oh, I was rewatching "Padawan Lost" and found a good quote.
Plo Koon: "What is Ahsoka's strength?"
Anakin Skywalker: "She is fearless."
Plo Koon: "That can also be a weakness...Is she a worthy apprentice?"
Anakin Skywalker: "No one has her kind of determination."
Ok, I put in the Rex quote. By juggling the quotes the Wookiee Hunt quote still looks better, but if you're dead-set against it, I don't mind it this way.--ID-21 Dolphin(Talk) 04:03, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
I'm still confused by why you're so reticent, but ok. You're sure there's nothing from your sandbox that you want to copy? There are certainly some old episodes for which your summaries are more detailed.--ID-21 Dolphin(Talk) 04:18, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
Ok. Are you planning on working a lot on it in the coming months? It's sort of a good moment, especially since she might not have too many new appearances in the short-term future.--ID-21 Dolphin(Talk) 04:21, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
Actually right in the middle of editing the article when you sent me that. :P Will have it and the other Clone Wars–related stuff done by the meeting. CC7567(talk) 22:07, March 8, 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I believe there's some info that needs to be added to R3-S6. I gave it to Trayus on his talk page a while back, so it should all be there. (The "canon conflict" that I mentioned isn't actually a canon conflict, I believe; it should be added somewhere.) CC7567(talk) 22:11, March 8, 2013 (UTC)
Nah, the only good stuff was a Clone Wars timeline that wasn't even correct. Also, would you mind tackling CC-1138? I can take a look at it sometime if you can't, but there's a good amount of rejiggering required, since the True Colors info needs to be moved to the 21 BBY part of the article (since the Star Wars Character Encyclopedia verified that the Battle of Mygeeto started in 21 BBY instead of 19 BBY). I can try to look up stuff if you need it. (And your user page says you're looking after Bacara, anyway. :P) CC7567(talk) 22:20, March 8, 2013 (UTC)
That, and adjust some of the ROTS-leadup parts of the article so that the context on Mygeeto (and relevant stuff) is provided before then with the True Colors info. In addition, once True Colors is moved, the ROTS part needs to state that he "returned" to Mygeeto, two years after he originally operated there (to reflect the information from the Character Encyclopedia). Also, I think a Bts note might be helpful to clarify the ambiguity with True Colors, and the fact that the Character Encyclopedia verified the chronology, but I can help you with that part if it's confusing. CC7567(talk) 22:30, March 8, 2013 (UTC)
I wish I had a good answer for you regarding To the Vanishing Point, but it's difficult to interpret the comic with the source material that's followed it. For the location of the comic's battle, the comic almost certainly suggests that it is not Mygeeto, but the CSWE either made an unintentional or intentional retcon in stating that it was Mygeeto. For the timeline, I don't believe any source has nailed down a specific date for the battle—though based on pure conjecture, I would think that To the Vanishing Point should be placed closer to 19 BBY, with ROTS (as opposed to 21 BBY, with True Colors). I'll try to catch you on IRC sometime tonight or tomorrow to discuss this. CC7567(talk) 19:53, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
Hi Jang, my objections stand. I was about to strike them as by objections had initially been addressed weeks ago. The problem was that they were almost immediately reverted as Cade changed his mind yet again. I've clearly outlined my issues on the nomination page. Rokkur Shen (talk) 02:58, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
You're quite right with your remark pertaining to the Jedi Temple founder's nom. I think I went on a roll with too much enthusiasm and didn't really think what I was doing. Too tired these days. Could you just remove the nom for now, so I'll have time to check? Sorry for the inconvenience, I obviously lacked discernment on that one... --LelalMekha (talk) 18:05, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Ah, those things you do when you don't think before taking actions! -_- --LelalMekha (talk) 18:43, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
The sad thing is that I'll haver to got through The Clone Wars in order to check for appearances. Yikes. --LelalMekha (talk) 18:48, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
And yet, the series did have good animators and designers. If only the writers had been less... fanciful. Just imagine what could have been! --LelalMekha (talk) 19:13, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
Hey Jan. Unfortunately, I'm unable to access my SW Insider collection as long as I'm on campus. If you can wait till Thursday, when I come home, I'll check immediately. --LelalMekha (talk) 17:20, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
Hello Jang. I just read "The Cast" as you requested. While Don Henderson is quoted, Cassio Tagge himself is never mentioned (but the general does appears in a few pictures). --LelalMekha (talk) 20:00, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Fond memories of Peter Cushing, including that famous "Tarkin wearing woman slippers" anecdote. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:52, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
I hereby provide you with the two quotes by Don Henderson. But I warned you: they're not about Henderson himself or his character, they're much more revelant to Cushing and Tarkin.
"Peter [Cushing] took his work very seriously. On set he never put a foot wrong. Off set he would be giggling and laughing, being very friendly, but very courteous and old-fashioned. Peter was a very funny man. He would sit around and tell jokes. He was a sociable man. He would have everybody in fits. You might expect a very austere man, like a hermit almost, but he wasn't. Peter was brilliant in his horror parts because he believed in what he was saying. It was the same in Star Wars. He brought such a serious element to it."
"They found the only footwear they had, which was a pair of women's slippers. Myself and the other characters were looking at him in the face, but when you look at someone in the face you still can see their shoes. Peter was being nasty, and we're looking at him in the face trying desperately to keep a straight face. He was totally unaware what was causing the giggles. He would say: "What's the problem? What have I done?" And we said: "It's the shoes." He said he couldn't do it without them, so he did the whole scene, being really evil, with us looking at him in the eyes, being very stern, while he's wearing these bloody slippers! Afterwards, he fell about when we told him what difficulty we'd had. He really roared."
Don't mention it. :) Oh, by the way, don't you happen to know someone on the Wook—besides Cal Jedi—who owns a working PC version of Star Wars: Episode I Racer? --LelalMekha (talk) 23:22, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, CP already provided me with a good deal of useful information, but he owns one of the game station versions, not the one for PC. It just so happens that some evidences I'm looking for only appear on the PC version of the game. Too bad. --LelalMekha (talk) 23:28, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Hey JangFett. Nothing personal but I was just wondering what you think is annoying. Judging from here I was just plum curious what you thought was annoying. Trust me I will not pester everyone who leaves a comment.Wolf Screech(That's a knife!) 18:36, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
Hey Jang. As per discussion at Inq Meeting 56, I've started to write a draft for what will eventually become the Inquisitorius' tutorial guide for new reviewers. It can be accessed here. I haven't had as much time as I would like to work on it recently, so there are still some sections that have yet to be written, but I've started off with trying out some basic organization with the current sections. Please feel free to jump in, either by writing new stuff for the guide or commenting on/adjusting what's already there.
Every current member of the Inq will eventually have to approve the guide in its entirety, so getting involved with its development would be great, sooner rather than later. The talk page can be used to discuss ideas about organization, sectioning, content, you name it. Let me know if you have any questions, and your contributions are appreciated! CC7567(talk) 21:03, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
Not to deny that Dyer was dead or anything, but is there a source for his death other than the Rebel Scum website's info on the bust? Like, in a character bio included on the actual product, maybe a photo on it? I'm asking because I tried to search for an image giving the bio, but it never actually stated it, and I don't exactly trust bios stated on Rebelscum since its technically a fansite. Hey, I'm more than willing to believe that he died seeing how he did fall and possibly even landed on generator equipment (though granted, seeing how, at least according to Rebel Strike, that was roughly one story if not two stories tall, that seemed to be really pathetic especially for a Force-attuned like himself), but still, I need verifiable information, like a photograph before we can completely conclude it is the case, something I haven't found yet. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 03:07, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Never mind, I found an image showing the bio. Well, case closed. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 03:08, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Actually, upon reading the description a second time, the bio listed his death as being "apparent," hinting at some ambiguity. I took the liberty of editing the article to note that. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 03:22, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for that, but I have already watched that scene on Youtube myself, and have easy access to it. The thing is, I don't think those images from the sourcebooks were direct film shots, as I watched that scene carefully many times to see if I could actually see that exact still, and it seems to me like that might have been a production photo, and if that's the case there's really no way to truly identify masked stormtroopers. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 15:59, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry I ummm uh, I am just really mad at Cade right now. And a few other guys. I would say something about something Cade but I am pretty sure I would get blocked for just saying it so I will not say it. I know I've been blocked for a personal attack before but that was an accident. I am trying to not do that, I really am and in case you don't know, I lived out my block hating myself. I am working really hard to get my status back: Barely cared about status. And you have probably heard about Darth Muscare from Darthipedia or Simple Darthipedia right? Well he was the one who got me blocked. I was stupid enough to actually obey him on the Darthipedia IRC channel and ask Darth Culator to stop hacking Muscare (which I now realize he wasn't hacking him at all, and if you take this as a another personal attack against Culator trust me it isn't.) So I am sorry if I am causing trouble, but I am just a little mad. Trust me I am trying so hard to do nothing that will get me blocked. Wolf Screech(That's a knife!) 18:51, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Jang, originally the EAOC only gave reference to the Vesla system. Late in 2012, the Vesla Minor system was introduced. This means that there had to be some sort of conflict or duplicate system hence the "Minor" addition. Systems don't just appear in EAOC for no good reason. There has to be a novel, comic etc that establishes this system or celestial bodies named "Vesla". I appended the tag in the hope that someone will be able to identify why there are now two Vesla systems and which sources they appeared in. Thanks. Rokkur Shen (talk) 00:37, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
From what I gather from comments by Jason Fry, there are cases where a system has had "Minor" appended to the name because there was two conflicting systems of the same name but located in different sectors. So there was "Vesla system" in the Outer Rim and "Vesla system" in Wild Space. One ended up being renamed "Vesla Minor system" as a result to avoid confusion. My issues is that there is a Vesla system mentioned in The Old Republic: The Lost Suns but where does the other Vesla come from? Was it mentioned in a novel or other comic? Rokkur Shen (talk) 04:50, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
My apologies for stirring something up - all I was trying to do was make the infobox more informative with real information. For example, Ahsoka Tano did have yellow eyes briefly in the Altar of Mortis which I sourced. I think I did add sources for some of those pages that I edited, though I shall take your suggestions on board when editing infoboxes again. If there is anything else you would like to comment - or rebutt against this - please feel free to leave a message. Dark Lord 21 (talk) 12:33, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
If you have time one of these days would you be interested in updating the CT-27-5555 page with information of the Battle of Umbara? It's a shame that this isn't covered for such a well-written article! Thanks!--ID-21 Dolphin(Talk) 02:45, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
Hello Jang, just a reminder of your still unstruck objection to my Galen Torg GAN. I saw that earlier on Winterz voted for it, so it will take one more AC vote to archive the nom as well (assuming you don't have more objections). Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:54, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
Have found nothing else that includes him. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:40, May 19, 2013 (UTC)