User image
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Your personal image is being considered for deletion pending not being used on Wookieepedia. If you would rather reuse it, it will not be deleted. -- Riffsyphon1024 20:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Crado
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No offense was meant, my friend. I was merely following a precedent I've seen where trivia is removed, especially on Featured Articles. In fact, I've specifically seen trivia referring to translation issues removed on articles like Pil Diller. I believe you, and I do know some French, so their choice to change his name makes sense to me. Feel free to revert my edit if you like.—Graestan
(This party's over) 19:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Fanon
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-- Ozzel 09:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
New Otoh Gunga
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The New Otoh Gunga article has already been deleted after going through the requisite one-week period for not having a proper source. Please provide a proper source for the article, or it will be deleted. Guidelines can be found here. Additionally, please do not create articles without providing a proper source. Just creating an article haphazardly to kill a redlink does not help. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Even if it's only one source, that's all we need. Thank you for providing it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- I was up to adding it, but I wasn't quick enough ;)You're welcome LelalMekha 22:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Sources
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Please prove an acceptable appearance or source for the color article you've just created. This is now the second time I've had to remind you about the need for properly sourcing your article. Please familiarize yourself with this page. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you once again. As a matter of fact, the first time you just didn't leave me the time necessary to do it. And as of now, I have been giving several notes and references, that serve as sources as well. But if you want me to just delete the thing, then it is all right, I can do it. LelalMekha 18:03, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the Notes and references section you provided does not count as an acceptable "Appearance" or "Source". Every article should have either a populated "Appearance" or "Source" list. Again, I would recommend reading that Sourcing guidelines page. You might also do well to familiarize yourself with the Manual of Style and Layout Guide. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you once again for doing so. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:11, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome. LelalMekha 18:13, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the Notes and references section you provided does not count as an acceptable "Appearance" or "Source". Every article should have either a populated "Appearance" or "Source" list. Again, I would recommend reading that Sourcing guidelines page. You might also do well to familiarize yourself with the Manual of Style and Layout Guide. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Some Written Words
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Hi Alban. Thank you for your kind words about The Written Word. As a fellow fan of constructed languages, I definitely understand your dissatisfaction with the way Star Wars languages have been handled; with other franchises having languages with grammars and phonologies that differ from English, the languages of Star Wars can seem lacking by comparison. While I would like to look at your work, I unfortunately can't look at fan-created versions of Star Wars languages for the same reasons that Star Wars story writers can't look at fan fiction. However, don't let that discourage your continued work on the project, and don't feel at all ashamed about working on constructed languages; it's an art form to be shared, not just a secret vice. jSarek 12:58, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
Articles
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Hey there. Thanks for the new articles that you have been writing. I just wanted to point out a couple of things to you. When linking to existing articles, please try to link to the actual article and not a redirect. Also, please check to see if an article already exists for something, albeit under a slightly different name. That way you can create a redirect page instead of a duplicate article. Keep up the good work. Let me know if you have any questions. Cylka-talk- 10:17, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
User page fanon, again
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1358 (Talk) 10:43, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I'll just completely erase it, I guess it's easier that way. No time to write a new user page right now, and I don't really need it anyway. LelalMekha 22:11, April 29, 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. 1358 (Talk) 22:12, April 29, 2011 (UTC)
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Hi LelaMekha, thanks for the questions. I have the book in part, though I'm missing a few vital pages. As far as I'm aware he kills them aboard his family's starship, which is destroyed, the corpses along with it, and Plagueis, (who is an incredibly wealthy and influential buisisness man as well as a Sith Lord) uses his power to tie up the loose ends and conceal Palpy's involvement. In short, their deaths are put down to an accident. Don't hesitate to ask if you have further questions. Jayden Matthews 10:22, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
Uploading images
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When uploading files to the wiki, please heed the instructions on Special:Upload. Thank you. 1358 (Talk) 13:17, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
Huttese writing system
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Hmm, that's a toughie. My immediate thought is that, no, the font itself is not canon. The writing system itself obviously is, but only the elements of it which we have canonically seen in use. That said, you should be able to have a field day with the Bts section, and hopefully as TOR expands, we'll get to see enough of the script to have something comprehensive soon. jSarek 05:58, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, Lelal, if you link an email address to your user page, I can email you some screenshots I've taken of various Huttese graffiti on Coruscant and Nar Shaddaa. That might help you catalogue which letters have been canonized and which haven't yet. ~Savage
13:07, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
- Whoops -- I meant attaching an email address to your account via the "Preferences" options. If I were you, I'd remove the email address from your user page, since it's vulnerable to spambots that way. You should be able to attach an email such that people can email you through the site anonymously, which protects your privacy and spam-freeness that way. :) (That said, I'll try to email you some screenshots tonight or tomorrow.) ~Savage
14:45, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
- Whoops -- I meant attaching an email address to your account via the "Preferences" options. If I were you, I'd remove the email address from your user page, since it's vulnerable to spambots that way. You should be able to attach an email such that people can email you through the site anonymously, which protects your privacy and spam-freeness that way. :) (That said, I'll try to email you some screenshots tonight or tomorrow.) ~Savage
Sith writing
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I honestly don't know whether we can make the assumption that it's High Sith. If the book just calls it Sith, it could be High Sith, or it could be some yet unseen variation on the language not covered by my article. I agree that finding a way to make it High Sith is currently the best solution given the available facts, but that's probably something that can only be made true by a retcon through official sources, not us. That's just my take on it, though. jSarek 11:17, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
Yoda's Challenge Activity Center
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How's the project going? The youngling article looks good. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 13:18, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- As far as the informations are concerned, I think the article is complete (or nearly so). The only thing left is the text himself, that I find plain.LelalMekha 13:27, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- You want me to prepare a second draft? --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 13:59, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- I'd be glad to see you do so.LelalMekha 14:06, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- All right, I'll get to it. I'll be working with the text as it stands now, OK? Any corrections you make, please mark them in bold, or in red (or both, that's what I do) so that they don't get lost. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 14:18, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- I'd be glad to see you do so.LelalMekha 14:06, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- You want me to prepare a second draft? --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 13:59, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- I have added my draft to my talk page. Take a look and tell me what you think. I also believe that the information must be added to the Yoda, Obi-Wan, Naboo, Padmé, Jar Jar, C-3PO and Anakin articles. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 15:35, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- Why, thank you. Its sounds like better English that way, not like my Hercule Poirotesque prose. I'm wondering if I should add pictures for every mission or not, lest it becomes just too much.LelalMekha 15:44, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- Pictures are good, if you ask me. If not all of them fit, at least upload them so that they are available. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 15:52, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- Well, I'll try and see how it looks.LelalMekha 15:54, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- Why, thank you. Its sounds like better English that way, not like my Hercule Poirotesque prose. I'm wondering if I should add pictures for every mission or not, lest it becomes just too much.LelalMekha 15:44, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
- I have added my draft to my talk page. Take a look and tell me what you think. I also believe that the information must be added to the Yoda, Obi-Wan, Naboo, Padmé, Jar Jar, C-3PO and Anakin articles. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 15:35, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
Kallig
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Where is it that developers assume that Sith characters will go full dark side, culminating in Kallig being bestowed the title Darth Nox. Post a link in the Kallig page that refers to it in detail. --Senjuto 14:30, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
- Well, hello to you too... The developers don't assume that. Wookieepedia does. It is not I who chose to put the assumption tag, so if you want to complain, I suggest you write on the talk page of the "Kallig" article rather than here.LelalMekha 20:11, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
Re: Qui-Gon
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Understood. However, I couldn't tell because the mention of how Qui-Gon smelled and looked is not in the article. If it is something that you feel needs to go into the Traits and appearances section, then be bold and put it in (proof reading it first of course). Otherwise, you might want to specifically mention the quote's or related info's possible inclusion in the article first when discussing what the quote means. —GethralkinHyperwave 23:34, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
Unidentified young recruit
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Hey. Just wanted to say good work with expanding this article. It is great to see. I hope that you will continue to work on it to make it as complete as possible. I would be happy to give you some tips if you want to think about making it into a Good article. --Eyrezer 10:21, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Why, thank you. It would be a great matter of pride to turn it into a GA. I've already received assistance to transform my bad Hercule Poirot prose into proper English, but any other tips are most welcome indeed. LelalMekha 10:29, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Cool. Well my first suggestion is that the article needs to be sourced. This means that every item in the infobox, and every paragraph needs to have a reference tag to it. It looks like you know how to source, since you correctly added the sourcing for C-3PO's storytelling, but if you need any help, see Wookieepedia:Sourcing. My second suggestion is that there are too many subsections in the History. At the moment, every paragraph is its own sub-section. For the length of the article, I suggest two or possibly three sub-sections at the most. --Eyrezer 23:27, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
- Will do. I think my two new subdivisions will be: "Missions on Naboo" and "Missions on Tatooine" (or something like that). I'll be working on it in my sandbox first.--LelalMekha 08:49, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
- Cool. Well my first suggestion is that the article needs to be sourced. This means that every item in the infobox, and every paragraph needs to have a reference tag to it. It looks like you know how to source, since you correctly added the sourcing for C-3PO's storytelling, but if you need any help, see Wookieepedia:Sourcing. My second suggestion is that there are too many subsections in the History. At the moment, every paragraph is its own sub-section. For the length of the article, I suggest two or possibly three sub-sections at the most. --Eyrezer 23:27, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
- You will have seen that a edited the references. The full reference style is only needed for the first reference, and then the abbreviated form, <ref name="XX" /> can be used. Some more suggestions: It would be good to see some of the quotes added back in for the condensed sub-sections. I also think that you could expand the Personality and traits section. At the moment, it seems to jump right in. Take a look at P&T sections in some other Jedi articles to see what is possible. --Eyrezer 11:31, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
- Great. I'll give it a copy-edit and see what else I can think of to improve it. --Eyrezer 09:46, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
- I have made some changes based on what you already had there. Let me know if you think I misinterpreted anything. Some questions:
- "... apparently sent by Jedi Knight Obi-Wan Kenobi." Does this refer to Yoda or the youngling? Is there an implication the Obi-Wan discovered the youngling?
- "the youngling seemed to be a precocious child". What are you basing this on?
- I am really curious about the Tiperoo. What role did it play in making the songs? --Eyrezer 11:38, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
- I have made some changes based on what you already had there. Let me know if you think I misinterpreted anything. Some questions:
- Great. I'll give it a copy-edit and see what else I can think of to improve it. --Eyrezer 09:46, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the message. I found a youtube clip of the game and made some more edits to the article based on that. I have slightly modified the title as the opening scroll calls the individual a "young new recruit". I suggest you move the article to Unidentified young new recruit to match that. I also changed the Conjecture template to a Nickname template accordingly. Another change was to add the {{Gamemechanics}} template. That is all that I can do. If you were to copy this across to the proper namespace and nominate it as a Good article, I would support it. You can still expect to get objections and suggestions, but I think it is good enough to make it through. Let me know if I can help further. --Eyrezer 11:26, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
Re:Skere Kaan
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I understand. It's not a huge deal to me, and if you feel like you can make the case that it was an obvious reference that the author was trying to make or that a buch of fans noticed, it's usually okay to add that kind of stuff (the way you worded it was perfectly fine). I only reverted it in this instance because I have a hard time imagining that that was Jason Fry's intent, or that many fans would see the name and immediately think "ah, yes... The Jungle Book". However, I'm obviously not the final authority on such things, so if you would really like for it to be included, I would recommend that you bring the matter up on the talk page and see if any other community members think that the connection is notable enough for its addition to not violate WP:TRIVIA. Cheers! Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 09:42, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
- Hi LelaMekha, it may be of interest to you to know that Jason Fry has announced that he will publish his endnotes for TEGTW next week, and my guess would be that he will probably state in them whether he intended Kaan's name as a reference to the Jungle Book. --Jinzler 10:37, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
- Why, thank you for this piece of information, Jinzler. Obviously, I wasn't the only one thinking there was something there. ^^ "Genn-Ghis Kaan" or "Kooh-bluh Kaan" would have been fine too. ;-) --LelalMekha 10:41, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
RE: Unidentified young recruit: nearly there
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No need to thank me, you did all the work. Actual research towers over minor corrective work in the difficulty department. Have you added the information from the game to the referenced articles? I can do that if you haven't. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 11:20, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
- Here's my take on the Binks part:
"Following the resolution of the Naboo crisis, Jar Jar Binks became involved with the restoration of peace on the planet. With the help of a precocious Jedi youngling, General Binks set up traps in the Sacred Forest for the last operational battle droids. As a key player in the reconciliation between the two cultures of Naboo, Jar Jar Binks participated in the Victory Races; mounted on a kaadu, he competed against Queen Amidala on a tusk cat."
"Ambush on Tatooine (Darth Maul)" looks fine to me. It's exhaustively sourced and contains no errors. I don't know what's wrong with it. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 12:44, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
- Any help you might want, just let me know. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 13:30, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, seeing as you're working on the article in your sandbox page, I just wanted point out the changes I made to the article to clean it up. Firstly, reference tags in the infobox should be enclosed in this template as shown: {{Ref|reference tag}}. Also, if a field in an infobox is not used then it should simply be left blank, not deleted. There were numerous cases of missing context (which isn't a content problem, more to do with writing style that would be picked up in a GAN review for example) such as "...who were protecting Queen Amidala. According to the trace, Maul knew the Naboo royal starship was headed for..."—there is no apparent link between Amidala and the Naboo starship. Specifying that she was the Queen of Naboo and that the ship was hers makes it much clearer. Your linking could also be better; per the Manual of Style, everything should be linked once in the infobox, intro and main body. You should also link directly to the article in question, not redirects; you can enable a gadget that colours them orange for convenience. Linking to the plural of things like [[assassin droids]] should be done as [[assassin droid]]s because article titles are generally not plural. Hopefully this advice is of some use, otherwise keep up the good work! nayayen★talk 13:57, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
Book of Sith pics
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I noticed that you uploaded a quality scan (
) from Book of Sith, and was wondering whether you could upload some more. For example, there is one that perfectly illustrates the Order of the Sith Lords in the Rule of Two section (the one with the agents of the underground), and those great portraits of the alternative Force traditions (Nightbrothers, Prophets, Shapers etc) in the Wild Power section, of which only one (Sorcerers of Rhand) is in use on the website. Cheers. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 15:22, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- The ones I mention above are the ones that seemed to pop out the most. The one with the Sith figure looming over the various shady intergalactic types is perfect for the Grand Plan -- it basically illustrates the Grand Plan. In any case, I don't want to bother you with this, I just wanted you to know that there is a dearth of potentially useful pictures from that book here. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 21:16, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- RE:Metamorphosis. Beat you there! I was already working on it. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 21:24, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Je ne sais pas pour les beaux esprits, mais les wookieepediens par excellence sure do! --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 21:49, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. Doesn't it look great?
- I don't know where it should be, but the "magic" of the Nightsisters is described as illusion not only in Infinity's End, but also in the cartoon. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 22:16, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- I'll admit it: Originally I had captioned the picture thus: "The Witch-Queen of Endor uses the Talisman of the Raven to turn herself into a beautiful princess." But I figured, I'm unpopular as it is on this site as it is! Anyway, you are right, of course. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 22:32, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know where it should be, but the "magic" of the Nightsisters is described as illusion not only in Infinity's End, but also in the cartoon. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 22:16, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. Doesn't it look great?
- Je ne sais pas pour les beaux esprits, mais les wookieepediens par excellence sure do! --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 21:49, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- RE:Metamorphosis. Beat you there! I was already working on it. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 21:24, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
RE:A Nightsisters Wookieeproject?
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I'm afraid I'll be terribly busy from tomorrow (which is why I'm editing now, while I still have time). Plus, I am also bound to clash with others, as it is perfectly clear to me that the Nightsisters are frauds. With the exception of the old Ewoks sources of course, witches are presented as Force-users with the "handicap" of incantations and hand/wand-waving, as well as a with a particular knack for illusion-casting, not as the absurd High Fantasy nigh-omnipotent supervillains the new cartoon has made them (in direct contradiction, may I add, to the very spirit of SW). The way I see it, every mention of a phantasmagoric wizardly feat should be treated as a mind trick, per all the sources that describe the Nightsisters as illusionists, and, per the original source (The Courtship of Princess Leia), pretty weak in terms of Force use as well. But not everyone agrees, right? In any case, I'm willing to help with anything Nightsister related, provided I can spare the time. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 14:42, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Oh if only they had stopped with Merlin! Merlin was, after all, half-demon, and therefore his powers can be explained in a framework perfectly logical according to the theology of the Middle Ages. But in Star Wars, there is no framework for superpowers so exotic compared to the Force as seen in the films! Imagine if Vader were to turn into Draculesque green mist during the original Star Wars—some success that film would have been! Or if he had been cyber-transformed with magic mist and not through surgery in Revenge of the Sith! Ah, I'm ranting....
I will gladly join such a project if you get it started after I have gotten through the worst part of the two jobs I'll be doing within the coming month. However, I cannot help but making it clear in every relevant witch-related article, that the Force and illusions are behind their powers, per all sources up to the cartoon. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 15:03, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
Ambush on Tatooine
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Hi there, sorry for the delay. I've had a read through and a small copyedit of the article and have a few things for a "pre-nom" review.
- The introduction is too short compared to the length of the rest of the article. Expanding it to be roughly the same sort of length as the Prelude or Aftermath sections should be sufficient.
- "According to the trace," -What is the trace you're talking about? Just a little bit of context is needed, so if it was something Sidious gave him you could just add "provided by his master" to it.
- The mention of the assasin droids currently sounds as if he encountered them outside his ship rather than, what I assume to be the case, them being droids he used for his training.
- "The Sand People were so bewildered they just couldn't react." -The tone of this line really isn't suitable for an encyclopedia and should be rewritten.
- That should be it for a preliminary review (and I'm a little tight on time while writing this) but, otherwise, it's an impressive job for a first effort. Let me know (on this talk page, it's in my watchlist) when you've addressed those four things and I'll have another look if you want. nayayen★talk 16:28, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
- There you are. I tried to fix the points you've mentioned here. About the trace, I must confess all the sources are quite silent. Darth Maul's journal basically says he is not allowed to reveal its source, but merely says Sidious was gifted enough to "guess" where the Jedi had gone. The rest is yours to see in the article. Cheers, and thank you again.--LelalMekha 18:40, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
Re:About a GANom (unidentified young new recruit)
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Sure, I could review it. I'm currently working my way up the list on the GAN page, so I'll be sure to review the new recruit article. JangFett (Talk) 15:54, May 4, 2012 (UTC)
RE: Quoi de neuf ?
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I've been busy, so I guess I've been on a "Wookiee-vacation" too. It's good for the soul! I see you have brought the site under the dark spell of the Nightsisters -- I like it. Can I vote for the recruit article, or is that considered a faux pas because I worked on it? Also, remember that thing about Charal turning into a beautiful princess? What if it's supposed to be this thing? Doesn't the book mention that a talisman could also be a cloak? I know it's against a whole pile of rules to put it in the article, just saying. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 12:11, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
- I voted anyway. I'll take a look at the article when I have the time. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 13:19, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Good to know you're still on the Nightsisters!
- "Consort" implies Charal had a legitimate sexual relationship with a monarch. It's your word, and I didn't change it because there was a source. If a source says "consort," that's their problem. (Maybe they broke up before the film? They are about 100 years old, after all, lots of time for romantic troubles.) If not, "consort" would be inaccurate.
- I don't know about the crash. Is there a source specifying anything? I rather prefer the intro version, but I don't think it's accurate. Just a hunch.
- As for the technology thing, that's a conflict with the Ewok movies and later sources. Nightsisters are presented as half-primitivists, having consciously rejected technology on philosophical grounds (like the Vong) but using it when it suits their purposes (unlike the Vong). But back in '85, Charal was not supposed to be any sort of "Nightsister," and she's presented as a technological imbecile. Although I do remember her being conscious of the fact that the oscillator was not some kind of all-powerful entity as Terak believed, and chanting into it only to stall him. Am I mistaken? God, I don't want to watch that film again! --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 16:22, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
- Also, the timeline is wrong, I think. "One of our sisters has yet to return the Talisman" may imply that she took it from a previous Witch Queen (Zalem? her predecessor?) about 80 years before Talzin wrote Wild Power, and she (Talzin) inherited the missing magical items list from Zalem, not that she personally gave it to Charal 80 years ago. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 16:31, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
- I though Fact Files were written in French originally. Anyway, I like the idea of freaky inter-species supercentenarian sexual relationships in kids' films, and I do hope some source says "consort!"
- YES, SHE CAME WITH THEM. 1st vague (Why, "no she didn't"?), 2nd positive, 3rd explicitly states ignorance. We have a winner in the source that states it definitely. It's clear to me if there are no other sources to contradict it.
- Well, the Sanyassans also arrived on a spaceship, and they also talk about "the power" when referring to the oscillator. It's just bad continuity, I think. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 22:51, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
- As much as I may think ill of myself for having watched those films as an adult, I also remember them fondly. I know I will return to them when I find myself in that curb of life where one needs immersion in the comfort of childhood (or rather, child-like) memories to get on with life. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 23:10, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
Unidentified young new recruit
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- Ah, my first GA! It's worth a celebration. :-) I'm looking forward to working on more of them.--LelalMekha 13:19, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Good work, LelalMekha! Always nice to have your first status article passed. By the way, the article is actually long enough to qualify as a Featured article (1,088 words currently), if you were interested in nominating it there, too. Obviously, it would need to go through the review process there, which you may not have the appetite for, but it is an option. It would probably need a longer introduction if you were to go down that path, but perhaps not too much else. Something to think about. --Eyrezer 14:33, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Re: A piece of advice
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Well, since both articles are over 250 words, they would have to be Good Article nominations. Just looking at them, however, I have two suggestions: I'd try not to use the word "this" - try introducing them as "A so-so" or something similar. And also, Menk will no doubt want more quotes, so I'd figure out if that was possible and look for some. Cade Calrayn
14:43, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
RE: Galactic Showcase
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The Galactic Showcase was a program the moderators at the official SWG forums had that allowed player's to show off their decorating expertise for all to see. Player's chosen would receive an in-game "badge" to signify they were chosen. Anything featured in them should not be considered canon because most it was written by players and not actually featured in the game proper (as in added to the game by the developers).
OLIOSTER (talk) 15:56, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
Ewoks
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Hello! I would be happy to pre-nom Talisman of the Raven. I absolutely love that you're working on articles related to Ewoks: The Battle for Endor. The film is a guilty pleasure of mine, too; I recently wrote Salak Weet and I plan to write Noa Briqualon soon. :D I saw on Cade's talk page that you want to take the two Sanyassans who shoot each other to Good article status --- do it! Do it do it do it!
I have a couple of preliminary questions before I dive deep into the article:
- Since the article is about the Talisman of the Raven, can you introduce the Talisman earlier in the "Properties" section? I feel like it should be one of the first things the article mentions, but it's not introduced until the second paragraph.
- "who may or may not have been Talzin." At first glance, this seems like speculation. What does Book of Sith actually say? Can you word it so that it doesn't seem like it's speculation?
- Right now, most of the third paragraph of "History" (including info about the Battle between the Sanyassans and the Ewoks) uses Book of Sith as a reference. Is this correct? Shouldn't it be sourced to The Battle for Endor?
- On that note, "while Charal was trapped in raven form." is sourced to The Battle for Endor. Does the movie actually say that she's trapped forever, or is this info from another source?
- The captions of images shouldn't include punctuation at the end unless a complete sentence is being used. Currently, none of the image captions are complete sentences, but they all end with periods.
OK! Those are some preliminaries. Think about them and let me know here, and then I'll dive deeper into the article. :) Menkooroo 02:18, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
- Hey! I'm really sorry, but I won't be on the Wook all that much over the next two weeks. I don't think I have time to finish the pre-nom. Sorry! Menkooroo 17:56, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Don't be sorry, I'll be kind of busy myself anyway. It can wait. ;-) --LelalMekha 18:02, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
Dan Wallace and the Nightsisters
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As you say, the issue here is authorial intent which is generally unclear. The fact is that various sources since Courtship have shown the history of the Nightsisters to be more than what is revealed in the novel, so Wallace's comments are in line with the new, revised Nightsister history anyway. His comments on Gethzerion's placement in the history should be in the BTS at least, but a case could be made to include it in the bio since Darth Bane's article uses Drew Karpyshyn comments on Bane's final fate as a reference. Just remember to link to the actual tweet url (obtained by clicking the details link under the tweet) rather than the feed itself. - Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 11:59, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
Image categories
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Hey, Lelal! I'm really glad you've been uploading lots of images from The Old Republic and Ewoks books and movies. Please be sure to add categories to the images you upload, though. Otherwise, the images become incredibly hard to find for other users. You should try to add categories for the subject of the image, the artist (if applicable), and the source. For instance, most of the Ewoks children's book images should fit into Category:Images by Toni Scribner, Category:Images from The Ring, the Witch, and the Crystal: An Ewok Adventure, subject categories like Category:Images of Sanyassans and Category:Images of Teek, and Category:Children's book illustrations. Keep up the good work! ~Savage
16:45, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Well, you're absolutely right of course. I usually do categorize images, but I've been unacceptably ... lazy lately. :$ --LelalMekha 17:50, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
Charal copy edit
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Hey, Lelal. I finally got the chance to give Charal a look and copy edit what you've done so far. And it's good! Most of the changes I made were not related to grammar or usage. Instead, I made a lot of changes that I probably would have made during a copy edit of a native speaker's article. Your English (at least written) is very good, so keep it up! If you have any specific questions about why I changed something or another, please don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn languages after all! I look forward to seeing Charal nominated for FA soon. :) ~Savage
15:07, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
Yavin
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The article is actually around 323 words, so it can't be a CA—you'd have to try for a GAN. Looks good otherwise. Cade Calrayn
19:00, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
- For word count, everything counts except the infobox, section headings, the table of contents box, sources and appearances, and image captions. Basically, everything in the intro to the BTS, excluding section headings and captions. I count by copying the text from the intro to the BTS and paste it in MS Word, then cut out the section headings, ToC box, and captions to get a word count. Cade Calrayn
19:09, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
Re: Yavin GA review
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No problem at all, you did a very good job working through those objections. Feel free to let me know if you ever have any questions; I look forward to seeing more from you! Cheers, Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 15:03, May 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Certainly—it's actually in quite good shape; I just found a few things:
- I'd give the intro some expansion. Flesh out the paragraphs a bit more, and be a bit more chronological in your presentation of events (e.g. you could mention the Talisman when you first mention that she desereted the Nightsisters)
- Your verb usage is good; I just found one mistake: "Hunted like an animal, Charal spent decades moved from star system to star system across the galaxy…" ("moved" should be "moving")
- When you say things like: "A century before the Battle of Endor," make sure to provide a link to the actual date; and even if just an approximate date is known, it can still be beneficial to say something like "Around 96 BBY"
- The following sentence is a bit rough: "When the offworlder did so, Terak was not pleased by the deaths of his men, so Szingo intended to put the blame on his witchy foe." "Witchy" sounds a bit POV (an insult instead of a rank). I would suggest rewording it to something along the lines of: "As Terak was displeased by the deaths of his men, Szingo intended to place the blame on Charal."
- Rank capitalization is somewhat complicated: if the article "the" is included in the statement (as in: "shielding herself from the king's wrath") then the title should not be capitalized. However, when the article "the" is left out (as in "Their leader, Terak, set himself up as King, occupying a primitive castle in the plains of the Dragon's Pelt.") then the rank should be capitalized. (Note that this ruling doesn't apply to terms that are always capitalized, such as "Nightsister," "Jedi Knight," "Sith Lord," "Mandalore," etc.; but it does apply to things like "King," "Queen," "President," "Captain," "Lieutenant," "Officer," "Ensign," etc.)
- I'd suggest combining the "Life on Endor," "Charal's poultice," and "The Witch and the Imperials" subsections into just one or two sections.
- You have a bit of over- and under-linking throughout the article.
- "Indeterminate age" is POV/OR, unless we know of an IU character who was unable to determine her age; in which case you'd need to tell us who that character was and the date when they found Charal's age to be indeterminate
- The last sentence of the P&T needs to be sourced.
- That's it from me; there are a few very minor tweaks that I can make in a copyedit once you nominate it. Go ahead and put it on the FAN whenever you're ready. :) Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 16:13, May 29, 2012 (UTC)