Luia?
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In the last movie when Luke tells Leia about their relationship she says that "somehow she has as always known." If that's true then why did she kiss him the fifth movie?
NaruHina Talk 
03:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)dp
- Just to prove a point to Han, I think. Welcome to the KotOR WookieeProject, by the way!--Jedi Kasra 03:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Welcome! Edit
Hello, again, NaruHina. I am a member of the KotOR WookieeProject. I will be letting you know tomorrow about some stuff related to KotOR that you can work on, if you're up to it. Please leave me a message on my talk page.--Jedi Kasra 04:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Very good. I would suggest you read the FA tutorials put up by the Inquisitors and the Manual of Style, for tips on how to source an article, as there are plenty of KotOR articles that need sourcing.--Jedi Kasra 23:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
RE: ZaerdraEdit
I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about here. For me, the 100% Light Side template goes behind the second picture of her; it is still very much visible. If you could, please send over a link to a screenshot of what you mean.--Goodwood 
(Alliance Intelligence) 08:08, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
WP:KOTOR Reorg MeetingEdit
(Alliance Intelligence) 23:07, 5 July 2008 (UTC) FA/GA templates Edit
Just FYI, the {{User featured}} and {{User good}} templates are only meant to be used by users who've done a significant amount of work on the article, and not just for reviews/voting, which seems to be the case with your using them. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 08:02, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Possible Answer Edit
Im not 100% sure but Mission's was most likely born on Ryloth,After all its not very uncommon for many twileks to be born into poverty and I hear Ryloth has many slums,Now don't get me wrong I know thats the case with lots of planet's but it just seems very likely for twilek's in Mission's case.--Borvo's vault 17:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Your CTEdit
Consensus tracks are not for deliberating what's canon and what's not. It's for issues related to Wookieepedia as a site. I have deleted your thread, please bring up the matter either on the relevant article talk page or in the Senate Hall. Additionally, the anon's edit is based on speculation and can clearly just be removed. Thank you. --Imperialles 01:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Sig Edit
Hey, the timestamp in your signature is currently being bolded. I'm not sure if you want it to or not; I'm just letting you know, cause it looks a little strange. :-) -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 19:36, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm a KOTOR fan too..... Edit
I'm a huge KOTOR fan as well. Have you got any ideas for kotor 3? (Sorry I ask this too every KOTOR fan cos they're never enough......)Devan2 20:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
oh yeah...... Edit
I forgot Lucasart's have announced an mmo game based on kotor 3. How would you feel about that on a scale of 1 to 10? I personally feel it will ruin the franchise because it'll be too different from it's two games.Devan2 18:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
That's a relief..... Edit
You're in the kotor project right? What articles are you focusing on right now? cos I need help on the bao-dur page- the personality and traits section. Devan2
Re: Deleted Senate Hall threadEdit
The answer to the question posed in the thread is easily found in the Canderous Ordo article. Use your browser's "Find" feature and type "Vong." Gonk (Gonk!) 17:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Gonna get to it Edit
Yeah but like you said I should probably focus on the ones Goodwood sir told us to. Thanks Devan2 10:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Trash compactorEdit
Obviously duplicated articles don't require a TC discussion. Just turn one into a redirect. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 00:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Old Republic nomination Edit
Hey there, NH. Just dropping by to send my appreciation on working so diligently on the Knights of the Old Republic article, and even nominating it to GA. I've no doubt the article will pass, seeing all complaints so far are null and void. Hopefully, people will take note of your hard work and will pitch in to get it to FA. Aha, I'm pretty damn sure you're gonna need some help for that.
Anyways, I'm just stopping by to give you a well-deserved congratulations on getting the article to where it is today. If you ever need any help with the article, just drop me a line and I'd be glad to lend a hand. Hope to hear from you soon, and happy editing! // ~mikah~ 02:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'd be glad to get rid of some of those red links, though my XBox's DVD Drive is now completely shot so I'll have to write based on memory. I guess that won't be a problem, though, since there are other users out there and the idea of the community is to help those who need it. // ~mikah~ 15:27, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi i'm new Edit
Hi my name is Strawberryfur3! But I like to be called Strawberry! So I was just wondering if you wanted to be friends? So write me back to let me know! Strawberry (Strawberry's Chatroom) 03:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Again Edit
Its me I just wanted to know if you know any other girls on here because I want a friend because on all the other Wiks I don't have a lot of friends and most of the friends boys and to you that would be like having all friends that are girls so I think you know what I meen so tell me if you can hook me up! Strawberry (Strawberry's Chatroom) 04:10, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
You Rock! Edit
Thanks for your help you rock! But I don't get why you did the lol! Anyway I was wondering if you would like to chat a while. Tell me if you do! Strawberry (Strawberry's Chatroom) 04:27, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Good Morning Edit
Hey dude are you awake! Anyway sorry for not talking to you last night. I fell asleep! Anyway do you want to chat now? Tell me if or when you are awake and if you want to chat now! Strawberry (Strawberry's Chatroom) 13:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Hello are you there? Edit
Hey dude are you there? I was just wondering if you wanted to chat. Any just to let you know I sent you a message about three hours ago! And I don't have any new messages so I just wanted to know if you are there! Strawberry (Strawberry's Chatroom) 17:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
MurderEdit
I'll be happy to create it for you, write a definition, some examples, attitudes etc. However, someone else will have to flesh it out, as I don't have time to focus on it the same way as with the torture article. Unless this Flashfire, who's left a message on my talk page still wants to be the one to do it. Nightlily 14:07, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Appearances Edit
Being the most active KotOR editor I've seen since I joined, working extensively on the Appearances section (on top of basically everything else the article covers), I wanted your personal input on the New continuity sections and a possible (re?)surfacing of its use. Naturally, it wouldn't be used on articles such as Knights, but rather smaller articles (ie, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Star Wars: Obi-Wan, possibly Star Wars: The Force Unleashed). // ~mikah~ 19:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- I see. Thanks for your reply. :) // ~mikah~ 23:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Ebon HawkEdit
Just to let you know, Ebon Hawk was kept as an FA last night, but the Inquisitors had a couple of minor issues which are noted on Wookieepedia:Inq/Ebon Hawk (second review). You might want to fix those up too and thanks for your work so far. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- I addressed the final Behind the scene issue (transition to paragraph form) to the best of my ability. Feel free to read it over and change whatever you feel needs a good fix. // ~mikah~ 17:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Help with User infoboxesEdit
could you help me with the user info box on my page when you get the chance? RogueJedi 15:34, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- could you just move all of them to a columm on right side? and fix the header? RogueJedi 16:03, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks RogueJedi 16:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
heyEdit
sorry for editing utris, and thank you for naming that link where people can see what i edit, but i like putting the pages i edit in my page,i am sorry if you dislike that, but i dont. i hope everything is clear and that we dont have further misunderstandings mister ( or miss)) Naru hina.dearly: Tusken916
hello mister naruhina, thanks for clearing the Graxol Kelvyyn thing and I would very much like contacting you in the messenger,because so far you are the only nice-not rude user i've met,almost all the others are very...strange or old(not all, just almost). hope we can contact each other.dearly: Tusken916
The Sith Lords Edit
If you don't mind, do you think you could handle some of the rest for me? I'm starting to get an ache in my wrist, but there isn't much more to go. I've been chopping down the list as I've been going along (I haven't saved it though), so if you need it, let me know before I leave, and I'll post it here and remove it later if you wish. // ~mikah~ 02:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Lifesaver! You don't have to add them all if you're not up to it either, and I'll remove the list per your request when i get back on if it takes up too much space. // ~mikah~ 03:06, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- I am terribly sorry to have made you go to such work. I'll be owing you a lot in the future, I'm sure. ;) But thank you for doing all you did; I really do appreciate it. // ~mikah~ 15:50, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- A subpage? I'm guessing in reference to the list I posted here and later killed? Because we did have a subpage (yours), but it wasn't mine, so I decided against deleting things from it without permission. // ~mikah~ 16:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- I am terribly sorry to have made you go to such work. I'll be owing you a lot in the future, I'm sure. ;) But thank you for doing all you did; I really do appreciate it. // ~mikah~ 15:50, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
It would be my pleasure to help with KotOR. :) // ~mikah~ 14:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- After an edit conflict in the dark side ending section, I've decided to take a step back and let you handle the portion of the article if you'd prefer. You seem to have more information on the topic than I do, and there are other things for me to focus on. // ~mikah~ 20:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Hey NH. Do you know the canon order of planets for TSL? I can't get to reliable chronology sources right now. So far I have in order: Peragus, Telos, Onderon ( first battle), Dantooine, Nar Shaddaa, Onderon (second battle), Korriban and then Endgame - Dantooine, Telos and Malachor. * Cylka * 06:40, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Signature Edit
Your signature is currently violating policy. Images in sigs are supposed to be no more than 20px in height; yours is currently 29px. Reducing the width to 14px will make the height 20px if you want to do that. I wouldn't say anything only the height of your image can create annoying gaps between lines. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 22:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Edit
Thanks for the congrats; my new wife got a kick out of Leia's facial expression. lol. -- Colinmcev 02:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
KotOR GAN Edit
Hey there. I was looking at the KotOR GAN and I noticed that one of the things wanted is an expanded main character section. If you want some help with that just let me know. I tend to shy away from writing a lot of text -esp since this is your baby- but I've had a lot of practice taking in-game screenshots and such. Party portarits I could pull in a few minutes, but any others take longer so I can set them up. I'll also try to get to the redlinks in the weapons and tech section. * Cylka * 14:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Ok redlinks are gone. Just to make sure, the main character section includes only companions or are there others like Yuthura Ban or Saul Karath * Cylka * 22:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Trying to pull myself together for the chars :p You might want to check this site out The Star Wars Timeline Gold, compiled by Star Wars fan and chronology expert, Nathan P. Butler. It's rumored to be legit and has tons of info. * Cylka * 02:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- OK main chars done. If you've got any mor red links left, put them up. If you want more help let me know. Otherwise I'm going to work on Visas and TSL some more. * Cylka * 01:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hey NH. I was wondering if you wanted to put in things like the easter egg creature items or the droid items. * Cylka * 14:31, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- All youtube refs are updated :-) * Cylka * 17:55, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- It would seem you won't need my help anymore, NH. Sorry I couldn't have been of any help to either of you, but I didn't get the request until I got home from school about an hour ago. If the sources are still not up to critics' standards, I'll be more than happy lend a hand. // ~mikah~ 19:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hey NH. Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you. I actually had some pressing family stuff that pretty much took me out of commission for a while. Its been taken care of so I have the time to work on the Wook again. I think Mikah took care of ref. 23. I see a lot of new redlinks so I'll try to work on those too. * Cylka * 22:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks and no problem :-) It's my secret hope to help you wrap up KotOR and somehow finish TSL before TOR is released. I have a feeling that TOR might just renew interest in those two and it would be great for them to be complete.* Cylka * 05:04, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Aratech 500 Edit
Hey there NaruHina. Thanks for catching that. It was lucky for me that you did. Turns out that my tlk file had become corrupted and was missing lines. That's why I didn't find it there. I now have a new one, so hopefully I won't run into this problem again. : ) * Cylka * 18:18, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Re:WP:KOTOR Edit
Am I allowed to join? I was'nt sure if there was some rule that says you have to be invited, or have a certain number of edits? Jayce Carver 13:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, in that case I will join, I love KotOR, and I can't wait for TOR. Also all of the NPC's from KotOR II have been tagged with the talk page template. Jayce Carver 11:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm signed up. Yeah, you could be right about TOR. I think they will do something simmilar to Pirates of the Caribbean Online. Where you can get a basic version for free, or a full access version that you have to pay for. Also what on earth is going on with Darth Sion? First the campaign guide establishes that he fought in the Great Sith War, and now the comics are turning Lucien Draay into Sion. Jayce Carver 12:11, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
KotOR Article Milestone Edit
With an edit by Cylka, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is officially longer than 100,000 bytes. Compare this to the 53,342 bytes it was at the start of the attempt to get this article up to GA status. Good Job guys. NaruHina Talk 21:08, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
HayEdit
Hay thanks for letting me join. I was just wondering if there are any jedi that need researching, for the project. thanks98.202.103.164 21:40, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
RE: WP:KOTOR Edit
I've responded here, as you asked, and I am interested in joining, hence why I put my name on the page. --Darth tom (talk) 07:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, but I've read the Manual of Style and the likes; I'm not exactly new here, and have done a lot on other Wiki's. --Darth tom (talk) 19:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Closed TCs Edit
You've been around long enough to know better than to vote on closed Trash compactor discussions. jSarek 22:20, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Bastila Shan edit Edit
Hey, NaruHina; I reverted your Bastila edit for two reasons and wanted to explain myself. One, I couldn't find a reference to the event in the article link you provided. Secondly, if it was a comment made by the developers, then it would not be canon, although it would be appropriate for the bts section. - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 14:15, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- It's cool. Just wanted to let you know my reasons for reverting. - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 14:50, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
The Sith Lords Edit
- I'm not denying they happened, though they weren't in the Alternative Stories section, they were in the synopsis. // ~mikah~ 02:35, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
X EraEdit
In response to the post you just made on Forum:CT:Era tags 2, it was discussed and voted for in my first CT (see Forum:CT Archive/Era tags). SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 03:52, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Bio article advice Edit
Just some quick pointers: for game developers, it's usually best to link to Moby Games using Template:MobyGames. MobyGames occasionally has more complete information than IMDb. Also, game titles are should be italicized. Other than that, great work at creating needed articles. -LtNOWIS 05:52, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Nihilus mask Edit
Hey NH. I wrote that article based on the game files and in the dialog TLK files it was also called Nihilus Mask. Maybe we should change it back?* Cylka * 20:30, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- If it's called "Nihilus mask" in the game then that name should be used over a conjectural name. It just means Nihilus mask as in the Nihilus mask, so it's not incorrect. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 20:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Where is it written in the possessive? I'm just curious because my game and TLK files don't have it in the possessive.* Cylka * 20:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- I have the pc version and its not in the possessive. So the question is which version are we going to go with? * Cylka * 21:29, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- No, its fine. We have different versions thats all. Next time just ask before assuming that I'm doing it all wrong. Thanks. * Cylka * 22:22, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- OK, you're right, maybe that was a bit unfair. I think the most important thing that we'll have to remember is that there may be some discrepancies in the KotOR articles because of the xbox and pc versions. Maybe as a Kotor project group we should come up with a consensus as to which version we'll use in order to avoid any future dilemmas. * Cylka * 03:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
- No, its fine. We have different versions thats all. Next time just ask before assuming that I'm doing it all wrong. Thanks. * Cylka * 22:22, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- I have the pc version and its not in the possessive. So the question is which version are we going to go with? * Cylka * 21:29, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Where is it written in the possessive? I'm just curious because my game and TLK files don't have it in the possessive.* Cylka * 20:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Saga CG Nihilus entry Edit
Victim of the Mandalorian Wars, the man who became Nihilus lost everything: his possessions, his loved ones, and the will to live. While illness cannibalizes his body, a vast emptiness devours his humanity. Then, when all seems lost, he discovers that his emptiness hungered. The first time, he fed it unconsciously. Draining another being's life is frightening, nauseating, but for a euphoric moment, the memories, the illness, the hunger disappeared.
But it proves insatiable. The more he indulges it, the shorter the satisfaction lasts and the more severe the hunger becomes. He begins feeding relentlessly, still always craving. Existence again becomes unbearable, but then hope materializes. A blind Sith Lord appears. She has felt his existence like a gaping wound in the Force. The Force, she explains, fuels his hunger, and she will show him how to devour worlds. The Sith and the Force are meaningless to him, but the hunger must be appeased.
Darth Traya indeed teaches the newly christened Darth Nihilus to harness his life-craving gift to radical heights – so effectively in fact, that Nihilus saps Traya's powers in a calculated double cross. However, as Nihilus greedily consumes entire planets' life energy, the dark side macerates him even faster. But no matter. Nothing matters except his hunger. Before it devours him totally, Nihilus uses its power to displace his persona into his robes and armor. As his useless body disintegrates, he becomes living primitive intention; at last, the whole of the galaxy becomes food – for Nihilus has become the hunger.
Ousting Traya with Darth Sion's help, Nihilus binges on the Force, nearly extinguishing the Jedi forever at Katarr. However, Traya reciprocates his betrayal by luring him into a confrontation with the Jedi Exile and Nihilus's own former apprentice. When Nihilus tries feeding on this Jedi, his hunger is mysteriously repelled, as if confronted by his exact polar opposite. Psychically starved by the effort, the Dark Lord falls to the Jedi, and Nihilus the man dissolves into oblivion.
Special actions: Dark healing field, Drain Force, Improved dark healing, temptation.
Force powers known: Battle strike, Dark rage, Farseeing, Force grip, Force lightening, Force resistence, Force scream, Force whirlwind, sever Force, Slow, Surge, Wound.
Force secrets: Devastating power, Distant power, Mentor, Multi-target power.
Force techniques: Force power mastery (sever Force), Improved Sense Force, Improved Sense surroundings.
Immune to Fear effects.
Possessions: lightsaber (self-built), mask, Sith robes.
Hope this helps. * Cylka * 11:13, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hey NH. I changed Nihilus' to Nihilus's in the article since his possessive form is an exception to the rule according to the MoS. If you don't like it you can change it back since I'm not sure the rule is strictly enforced. Btw, any other help you need, just let me know. * Cylka * 12:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Devastating power
When using a Force power that deals damage, you can spend a Force point to increase the power's damage dice by 50%. Alternatively, you can spend a Destiny point to double the number of damage dice.
My interpretation: Has the ability to deal a hell of a lot of damage if he puts his mind to it.
Distant power
When using a Force power that has a range expressed numerically, you can spend a Force point to increase the range by 10. Alternatively, you can spend a Destiny point to increase the range to anywhere in the star system.
My interpretation: Has the ability to hurt beings anywhere in the same star system? WTF?
Misc Items
Force points are used when consciously calling upon the Force.
Force secrets available to only very powerful Force users – ones highly in tune with the Force.
Source: Roleplaying Game: Saga Edition Core Rulebook
* Cylka * 23:11, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I saw a graveyard of ships, surrounded by a fleet of dead ships. I felt it through him... as I feel it through you. Yes, I should. * Cylka * 01:44, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for comment in Darth Nihilus nom. That was really sweet of you. I promise that I'll look it over, but it may take a couple of days because of the holidays. I'm also planning on overhauling the Telos article so it won't lose its status. Reading the AC meeting log, it seems they think the whole thing is lacking. Happy Holidays! * Cylka * 10:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Force Speed GANEdit
- Hey NaruHina :-). Thanks for all your suggestions on the Force Speed article so far, I was wondering if you could take another look at it as I think it has improved, and SoresuMakashi and IFLOFD's objections have been addressed. Any further suggestions would be greatly appreciated :). Hope you have a great Christmas :-). Grunny 05:49, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hey again :-). Just wondering are there any more objections to the nom or are you supporting? This is my first nom so I hope it goes through :). Merry Christmas Grunny 08:57, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah thats what I thought at first but I've looked through so many sources already and it appears in surprisingly few. It doesn't appear in any westend rpg sourcebooks that I have and only started appearing in the wizards, and even then I have all of them and it only appears in the ones listed and in hero's guide its only indirectly. If you know of other sources with it in then that would be great but as of now I can't find it anywhere else. Grunny 09:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- I just searched wikipedia for force speed and force augmented speed in the box, and after episode 1 it stops resulting so thats a dead end. I'll search through all the LOTF books, I have them i ebook as well so I can use find for speed and see what I come up with, but like I said I thought it appeared alot more however it actually appears quite rarely compared to say force jump. I'll get back to you when I've done the searches, might be after christmas though =P. Thanks for your suggestions and hope you have a great christmas :-). Grunny 09:27, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah thats what I thought at first but I've looked through so many sources already and it appears in surprisingly few. It doesn't appear in any westend rpg sourcebooks that I have and only started appearing in the wizards, and even then I have all of them and it only appears in the ones listed and in hero's guide its only indirectly. If you know of other sources with it in then that would be great but as of now I can't find it anywhere else. Grunny 09:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hey again :-). Just wondering are there any more objections to the nom or are you supporting? This is my first nom so I hope it goes through :). Merry Christmas Grunny 08:57, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hey NaruHina :), I've searched alot and added a User's section as per Atarumaster88's advice and I think the article has improved alot so I wondered if you could take another look through whenever you can :-). Thanks for all your help and ideas :-). Grunny (Talk) 07:50, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hey again NaruHina :), just wondering if theres anything else your objecting to on the Force Speed article or whether you are supporting? Thanks for all your helpful ideas and suggestions for improvement :-). Grunny (Talk) 00:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Restoring GA userbox Edit
Hey NH. I was wondering how you go about proposing a userbox. I saw that you proposed a couple already. I was thinking of a userbox for restoring a GA, like the one they have for restoring a FA. Actually it was your Nihilus that gave me the idea. Also, if you would want to propose it, go right ahead. I just think GAs should have one too. Cylka-talk- 13:01, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. And I'm sorry it took me so long to get back to you. My minds been a bit fuzzy lately. :-) Cylka-talk- 17:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Shadows of the Empire Edit
Hey, I've finally added in a summary of the Shadows of the Empire graphic novel. Check it out and tell me what you think!--Artist Walser 01:45, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Kotor WPEdit
Confirming here as asked that I'm sure about joining, admittedly I am still quite new to wiki editing in general. I've already started on the Taris swoop gang related ones though. Nayayen
Transmit 13:59, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
NihilusEdit
Yeah, so, you got the Onderon bit in the right place but you currently have the order of events in the second and third paragraphs as:
- Exile returns to Republic Space
- Exile re-establishes connection
- Disturbance in the Force
- Visas sent to find the Exile
- Visas joins the Exile
- Atris arrages for Exile's return
- Peragus destroyed with major consequences
- Exile under tutelage of Kreia
It really should be:
- Exile returns to Republic Space
- Atris arrages for Exile's return
- Exile re-establishes connection
- Peragus destroyed with major consequences
- Exile under tutelage of Kreia
- Disturbance in the Force
- Visas sent to find the Exile
- Visas joins the Exile
Some context about the Exile would also be nice. Sorry about the trouble, think of it as a supplement to the present I gave you for your KotOR nom :P. Shame it didn't pass. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 08:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Black VulkarsEdit
Okay thanks, I'll get working on the things you mentioned. Whilst on the subject, does the article on their base need anything added to it? I've been working on both. NayayenTransmit words at me 11:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, the game isn't actually working on my computer currently so I'm not sure whether I can get a map that easily (or any more screenshots other than the ones I already have). When the main Vulkar page is done and dusted I will hopefully move onto their base. Nayayen
Transmit words at me 21:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
WP:KOTOR Meeting Edit
Hello NaruHina. Please note that there will be a project meeting for WP:KOTOR at 0:00 UTC (approx. 7:00pm Eastern Time) Saturday, 31 January, 2009. Please click here for further details, including agenda. Cheers MadclawShyriiwook! 00:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hey NH. This is just a reminder that there will be a project meeting for WP:KOTOR on Saturday, 31 January, 2009 at 0:00 UTC. More information can be found here. Cylka-talk- 17:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Re: Hunter-Killer Edit
You know, I believe you're right, everyone's favorite assassin droid certainly does deserve the honor! It's an ambitious venture, but I think between you, me and Cylka, we'll be able to pull it off. I'd like to focus on Brianna and Visas until we've seen them to GA, but any preliminary work you could do on HK right now would definitely be helpful. Other than the sourcing, the only thing I see right now in desperate need of improvement and general expansion is the abilities section. As you can see, there's a LOT that could be added. I'll pitch in when I'm not working on Brianna or Visas as well. Let's get to it! :) JethLordMaster
(Xia Order) 06:52, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
BriannaEdit
Sorry, I was typing a responcs, but I forgot I was still on my userpage, and I must of deleted the entire thing instead of just what I typed. :P
Yeah, I was under the impression that you only needed 2 AC votes and 5 in total for it to pass. I checked some previous successful noms and there were only 5. How exactly does the process work, since you have some more experience with this than me? JethLordMaster (Xia Order) 01:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Heheh, yeah, I jumped the gun a bit there. I'm still new to this after all! Oh, and there's an explanation to your objection. It's been confirmed that Brianna does travel with the female Exile. Thanks for the help! JethLordMaster (Xia Order) 02:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
"The Echani Handmaidens are a group of sisters who serve Jedi Master Atris on Telos IV after the end of the Jedi Civil War. They are trained in the well-respected Echani combat techniques. Their physical appearance is strikingly similar, except for the Last Handmaiden, Brianna, who had a different mother than her sisters. She eventually joined the Jedi Exile in her pursuit of the Sith Lords, which ultimately turned her against her sisters and Jedi Master Atris." Taken from the preview of the set at this link: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/KOTORminispreview5.
Hope that clears it up! JethLordMaster (Xia Order) 02:26, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
JunoEdit
Hey. I'd really prefer to work on it by myself, just a little accomplishment for my own personal self-esteem ;-) But I can't stop you So if you really feel the need, go ahead :-P Thanks for asking btw. And also, Ur name has to do with Love Hina the manga right? Darth Nikolai 20:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
GAN Edit
Hey NH. While I appreciate you taking the time to explain any objections I may leave on the GAN page, I believe that I have a different method for trying to get a new user to learn the ins and outs of editing. If there is something that they don't understand, I would like them to either look it up themselves or get in touch with me or another user. I feel that someone can learn much more by taking action. Thanks. Cylka-talk- 10:54, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- Naru, I did not want to continue this discussion on the GA nom page because I believe that would be rude in general and very disrespectful to the nominator. There is a way to rewrite the Black Vulkar cut content in the present tense. Yes, the whole paragraph would have to be restructured, but it is possible. That is why I left the choice up to him. I do not understand why you are continuing to argue against and question my objection. Earlier you had left a message telling me that you just wanted to inform him that he had written it correctly, and I conceded that point. This is not your nomination and Nayayen has yet to give his opinion of the matter. Maybe you should allow him to give his opinion before you start jumping in. Since I am not asking him to go against policy, I would not change my objection just because you don't like it and certainly not before I hear from the nominator. Cylka-talk- 05:59, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
FAN Edit
When voting on the FAN page, please remember to update the count. Cheers, -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 17:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Re: WP Infobox Templace ChangeEdit
Added. Greyman(Talk) 04:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- Well I don't have the novel at all, so if you'd be interested in a collaboration? --Darth tom
(Imperial Intelligence) 07:31, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Re:GAN Edit
The objections have been struck. And no, I shall not have fun with my schoolwork. The musical, yes, but not the schoolwork. :P DC 17:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Guys and Dolls :D DC 01:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Mercenary EnclaveEdit
Already removed, Naru. :) SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 03:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- While you're at it, you could do the other article he made, Scavenger camp. And you missed the WP:KOTOR meeting, but we didn't really do much except delay decisions. :) SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 04:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oh no... SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 04:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Unit 685 Edit
- Mauser fixed it. Gethralkin 14:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
HOB-147 GA Edit
I wasn't sure where you wanted the Order 66 context, in the intro or the biography, so I put in both. Could you please look back on the article if you have not already, and if your satisfied with the context I gave, would you then please remove that part of you objection. Kilson likes PIE 19:28, 13 February 09 (UTC)
- That's cool dude, I got to work on a few articles myself, take your time dude. Kilson likes PIE 19:39, 13 February 09 (UTC)
- I can't thank you enough dude. In reality, I probably shouldn't have nominated the article in the first place, but with all your help, I think it has a really good chance of making it. Thanks again man. Kislon 23:48, 20 February 09 (UTC)
Kip Bunyea Edit
How come you moved Kip Bunyea to Kip Bunyea (bounty hunter)? -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 19:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Revan Edit
Hey Naru. Revan never was a Jedi Master. The CG distinctly calls him a Jedi Knight, and in the comics, Alek calls him a "honorary Master," so no he can't be listed as a Jedi Master. Thanks. Cylka-talk- 23:13, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Jango Edit
The reference definitely isn't completely certain, and the writers meant for it to be that way. But I think all the evidence points in the direction of Jango. Who else could it be? Kebla 21:49, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ok! That's certainly understandable. Kebla 15:51, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Operation: Knightfall Edit
I didn't want to clog up the GAN page with an explanation, so I figured I would leave you a message. I talked it over with some of the ACs and you don't need a conjecture tag. What you need is to be able to provide a source for each of the alternate titles. If you can't, then they have to be taken out. Then what you'll need to do is somehow fit into the History the sources of those titles. Something like "The X group called it so and so, while official records named it so and so." This is to avoid putting ref notes in the intro, and if it's a canonical title, it shouldn't go in the Bts. Cylka-talk- 08:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Help me NaruHina, you're my only hope Edit
Hey, I wanna start by saying sorry if that was a little corny. But getting to the point now, I was wondering if you could help me with my page, cause yours is totally decked out! Mine is a little shabby and I just do star wars, not the cool techy computer stuff. If you could lend a hand or give some EXTREMELY simplified advice, that would be fantatic! If it's advice your dishing out, make sure it's so easy, a blonde could understand it. I'm a brunette, but I'm not exactly a super computery person. Thanks! Rhaal ti 05:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Edit
Ok if this message is already posted, I'm sorry. But I was wondering if you could help me with my custom signature? Thanks so much!Rhaal ti 15:53, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thank you...... Edit
Yes I kinda figured out the infobox (which I am exstatic about!!!) but I could still use help with my custom signature User:Rhaal ti/User:Rhaal ti/sig I created it but now I don't know how to asign it as my signature. Any ideas?Rhaal ti 23:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- ok thank you much
- hey, can you help me with adding a pic to my infobox thingy? I've tried multiple times and I just can't get it right. thank you for all your help! P.S. my signature is a little weird right now cause I'm in the middle of workin on it.{{SUBST:User:Rhaal ti/sig}} 23:44, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
the pic... Edit
for my info box thingy:)User:Rhaal ti/User:Rhaal ti/sig 00:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- It is the picture on the togruta page, the one that is wearing the gown. I had a customized one, but i guess I'm not using it yet,:) oh well.User:Rhaal ti/User:Rhaal ti/sig 01:01, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- OMYGOODNESS I HAVE A PICTURE!!!!!!! Thank you thank you thank you!!! I'm like jumping up and down! Thank you so much!!!!User:Rhaal ti/User:Rhaal ti/sig 02:22, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, I was wondering if I could use the big "I gotta get out of here" thing because my teacher's daughter just warned me we will be getting insanely huge projects every other weekend and I'm already swamped as it is, during the week, that is. I'm only gonna be on every other weekend.* torgutaFan * 14:28, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- OMYGOODNESS I HAVE A PICTURE!!!!!!! Thank you thank you thank you!!! I'm like jumping up and down! Thank you so much!!!!User:Rhaal ti/User:Rhaal ti/sig 02:22, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
hey Edit
I was wondering if I could have the three userboxes about the clone wars utter stinkocity, and the one under it about the death star being a waste of money. thanks!* torgutaFan * 14:40, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
hiEdit
Hey I was wondering if you would mind helping me with sourcing Slaver's Chains? My sources are episode 6 and the third book in the thrawn trilogy(can't remeber the exact name). Any help you can give would be awsome! Thanks for everything.* torgutaFan * 01:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Edit
so glad there are people who have my back* torgutaFan * 03:35, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Darth Nihilus' species Edit
You might want to mention that Nihilus' "human" form was a dark-side abberation, according to the KotOR campaign guide.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 15:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I think we're good... Edit
I believe I have addressed all your objections to Unidentified Mandalorian Commander on the GAN page. Would you please review it again? (or am i supposed to scratch out the objections first???)--End0 da Baker 15:58, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Revan's quest Edit
Hi, NaruHina. Would you be interested in helping me write out his second quest for the Star Forge? Not trying to be boastful, that's not my style, but I did the same thing for the Jedi Exile, writing out her search for the Jedi by planet. I know we can do this.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 15:40, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Great, would you object if I put copied the article on a sub-page of mine so we can work on it without causing problems with the actual article? (Similar to how I did with Kreia.)--Jedi Kasra (talk) 20:23, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, here's the sub-page. I presume we'll arrange the planets as follows: Tatooine-Kashyyyk-Manaan-Korriban. Great to be working with you.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 20:35, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Still playing through the game to get more info to put down on the sub-page, also reading the strategy guide and such.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 14:23, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, Naru, still working on my sub-page for Revan. How's everything going? Sorry I couldn't get this message to you sooner. It'll take a while, since I've got an article going through the GA process, and two going through the FAs, but we'll get there. I appreciate your help so far.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 14:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, how's it going, Naru. Just to let you know, my sub-page on Revan can be found here.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 17:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Re: Revan"s Rank Edit
Hey Naru. I believe that Chronicles was written before the CG, but anyway, there are some serious continuity issues with Chronicles, and right now I am actually in the middle of trying determine how to deal with those issues. So far, I have heard that the CG overrides any Chronicles information, but I'm not certain of this. Until I find out for sure, I would say that it is better to leave it out of the article until I get some concrete answers. Cylka-talk- 21:59, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- I believe I heard somewhere that the whole thing with Alek and the other Revanchists calling Revan "Master" was intended to retcon the Chronicles discrepancy.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 17:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- OK, so I have figured out the continuity issues and you can take a look at them here on the project page. So far, I haven't seen anything concrete about the retcon Kasra mentioned. All I know is the Revan was Malak's "informal master," according to the comics. Cylka-talk- 02:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Bettie-Bot VJ Edit
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Subpage Edit
- Hey, I feel like some new user for asking this, but how exactly would one go about making a subpage? thanks. Dr.Kermit(The Doctor is in) 23:52, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks very much Dr.Kermit(The Doctor is in) 00:29, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Showdown on Coruscant Edit
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Help?Edit
Hey Naru I'm trying to GA the Treaty of Coruscant but I'm having a hell of a time getting the sourcing right, especially for the "Terms and Results" section. I was wondering if you could help me out, and I figured I'd ask you because you did the Femi article. I know it didn't need any major sourcing, but it was still TOR so yeah. If you can help me out I'd appreciate it a lot. Let me know! Thanks! Dark Lord Trayus 00:58, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- Well thanks anyway. Hopefully it doesn't get "Rule Fived" but I'm still gunna try. I don't feel like it's going to be a giant magnet for new changes, especially compared to the wars themselves. Plus the game doesn't seem to be anywhere near release. Dark Lord Trayus 04:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Re: Operation Knightfall Edit
Sorry dude, I completely forgot about that objection. I had four GA noms up at the time, so you can understand if I had my hands full. I'm getting rid of the objection right now. Kilson Likes PIE 10:20, 08 March 09 (UTC)
Femi's co-worker Edit
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Femi Edit
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RE: Darth Nihilus Edit
It means combined with and continuing off of prior objections or that the objection stands with a new condition. There are a few places where the objection either still stands—which I believe I stated explicitly a few times—the others are where the previous objection relates to that one. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 22:50, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Operation: Knightfall Edit
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KOTOR WikiEdit
Hey, I sax you edited a whole lot on the Knights of the Old republic page. Are you interested in helping me with my Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic wiki, here is the link. http://swkotorwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic_Wiki . Thanks for your time.
Nihilus on the GAN Edit
Hey Naru. After the recent AC meeting we decided to trial a new GAN format on some of our longer noms, which in this case are Darth Nihilus and Ordo Skirata. As you can see from the GAN the objections section has been moved to what will become the archive subpage here. Now you can watch that page and see instantly when someone has objected or commented on your nom instead of having to check the GAN constantly. You should probably let Fiolli know when you've addressed his objections where he can find them :-). Grunny (Talk) 03:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Procedure nom Edit
Well, I found sites mostly like this: http://starwars.yahoo.com/photos/the-clone-wars-procedure-webcomic-3?ue_dpoa=eb29b7cefa052f250fe06555c71425fd&ue_dpoat=photos&ue_dpat=photos&ue_dpam=soft&ue_dpln=The+Clone+Wars%3A+Transfer%3A+Webcomic+%239 To point something out, CC and Grunny told me not to use sites similar to this. I addressed your other objection by the way. Thanks for the review dude. :) Kilson Likes PIE 19:33, 27 May 09 (UTC)
P.S. PIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. :P
Showdown on Coruscant Edit
Hey, Naru,
I have a nice quote that I think would look nice as the opener, since you don't have one there. I'd just add it, but since you GA'd this, I wanted to run the idea by you first. Lemme know what you think.—Tommy9281 
(No quarter given, all exits sealed) 22:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- NaruHina has been blocked from editing for an extended period of time. I would recommend just adding the quote in. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:19, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- I was unaware. Thank you.—Tommy9281
(No quarter given, all exits sealed) 22:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- I was unaware. Thank you.—Tommy9281
WP:LE's one-year anniversary Edit
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KotOR series Edit
Well, when you put it that way, I guess it could work. I think that it would be a good idea to write/update an article about the canceled KotOR 3 before writing an article about the series. TOR would only need to be mentioned as a loose spin-off until we learn more about the connection between them. Cylka-talk- 01:19, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- I would leave it off for right now since it had been canceled. We can reexamine the issue a bit later. It may depend on how much info there is on game. Cylka-talk- 02:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Unidentified Trandoshan bounty hunter Edit
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Sith Empire and Sith Triumvirate Edit
Hey, Naru. How goes everything? Anyway, where exactly is it stated that the Triumvirate was affiliated with Revan and Malak's Sith Empire?
- Ah, OK... It's good to hear you're doing well, my man. Do you mind if I look over your nom for the Nihilus article?--Jedi Kasra (talk) 17:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- OK, I'll review it Monday, and let you know. If you could take a look at the Malak and Nord FA's and give me a review, I'd appreciate it, as well. Take care, now.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 00:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- A few things came up, so I'll try to go voer the article as soon as I can, my man.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 19:04, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- I think I took care of all your objections to Nord, please take a look at it. By the way, I got my license today.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 20:21, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yo, Naru, I looked at the article, and I couldn't find anything that other users haven't objected to. I'll take a couple more looks, but other than those objections, I think you're good.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 15:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, Naru, I read the KotOR campaign guide cover to cover, and I could find nothing that indicates that Traya or Nihilus belonged to Revan and Malak's Sith Empire. In fact, Traya'e entry states that she came to the Empire's remnants on Malachor as Revan's former master, indicating that she came sometime after the end of the Jedi Civil War. Between Traya, Sion, and Nihilus, the only one who belonged to Revan and Malak's Sith Empire was Sion.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:21, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- No prob, Naru.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 23:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Darth Nihilus Edit
Normally I do not address FAN objections on talk pages, but I want to commend you for taking my prior objections seriously. I will have some time later in the week to comb through the article again and check things off. Good luck with the article. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 01:52, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
RE:images Edit
Sorry about those poor quality images, unfortunately my computer won't allow me to modify the readme file, so I can't take screen shots. The ones that I have uploaded so far weren't taken by me though, I got them from the IGN guide to KotOR. Jayden Matthews 09:10, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
don't CSD legitimate articles Edit
Sith Master (Lehon) was a completely legitimate article. Please do not place CSD tags on such articles that there is no merit in deleting. Thankfully a more naive administrator did not come along and trust your judgment here, but in the future if you have a problem with articles that aren't 100% baloney, please TC them instead. Further such CSD tags will be treated as disruption of the wiki processes. Graestan(Talk) 14:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Warning Edit
Do not add unsourced information to articles, ala Operation: Knightfall's infobox. Do not claim that something is sourced when the present ref note does not include that info. Persist and you will be blocked. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 11:10, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, and include edit warring in that too. You're walking a fine line. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 11:11, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- All information must be sourced, regardless of its nature. That's sort of a core part of the whole wiki thing and you'd do well to remember it. I can't say I'm exactly impressed by this in light of this, though given that you undid yourself I won't dwell on it too much. Just don't try to pull the wool over anyone's eyes, because it won't work. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 23:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Mara Jade Skywalker image? Edit
Hi there. You reverted my change at Mara Jade Skywalker citing that real life images should be preferred in infoboxes. I obviously disagree (since the Essential Atlas picture is much better even if drawn) but can you show me where that rule is written down? I could not find any such requirement. Regards SoWhy 20:10, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- I see your point, although I do not really think it's a valid one. One could argue that the precedent in the Luke, Han or Leia articles is because they are G-canon and thus more "canon-y" than elements of C-canon, i.e. EU happenings. On the other hand, both the LA and the Essential Atlas Mara picture are C-canon and thus not comparable. I will raise the question on the talk page thus and see what people think. Thanks for your answer though. Regards SoWhy 08:29, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- I see. Well, it seems there was some controversy about it back in 2007 already which seems to have come to no conclusion, so I raised the issue again, offering the EA picture as a replacement. Regards SoWhy 08:43, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
ReplyEdit
Ah, my bad. I'll check it out now. Chack Jadson (Talk) 22:30, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
Lasavvou againEdit
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Clone assassins Edit
Couple of things: Please watch your linking, and the use of repetitive words like "Soldiers." Their are certain issues with the article regarding Sidious. In the bio you stated: "Clone assassins were special ordered by Supreme Chancellor Palpatine, actually Sidious, who justified them as a way to combat Jedi if they ever decided to rebel against him and the Galactic Senate." "actually Sidious" doesn't work here. Unless you mention that "Sidious" was his alter ego, then it would be fine. I believe their was also another issue like this in the intro.
I removed unnecessary/out-of-place information from the intro and bio, however, the out-of-place information has been refitted in. In the intro, an example would be: "...which took place in 19 BBY, and a squad of them was used to guard the Jedi Communication Center." I've moved "Jedi Communication Center" to the next sentence which reads: "Vader activated a beacon, inside the Jedi Communication Center..."
Also, please give your articles a thorough copyedit. I realize that this was just a review, although I've corrected a fair amount of misspelled words and grammatical issues like this: "In 19 BBY, the final year of the Clone Wars, Sidious was engaged in a lightsaber duel by a Mace Windu, a Jedi Master who had learned of his true identity. " "Sidious was engaged" and "By a Mace Windu"? Also the way the sentence was structured didn't make a lot of sense. I've rearranged the sentence to make it flow better.
After Windu vs Sidious, their was a factual error that I've corrected. Sidious did not authorize Order 66 after he named Darth Vader his apprentice. After he killed Windu, Sidious told Vader to go to the Jedi Temple to kill the Jedi. After he left (If you recall the marching into the Jedi Temple scene in ROTS), Sidious then executed Order 66. While it is not a requirement, it is, however, proper to mention a planet by saying " Planet of ___." I've corrected quite a few. Overall, good work. :) JangFett Talk 19:52, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
GAN Edit
The Unidentified Twi'lek Sith GAN has been removed from the nomination page per the AC consensus decision of September 2nd. Your disagreement with the AC's decision to remove the nomination is duly noted, but it does not mean you should renominate the article in what I can only interpret to be a bad-faith attempt to demonstrate your disgust, especially considering what seems to be a pretty half-hearted effort to resolve the objection for which it was removed to begin with. Please note that this message is coming from Toprawa the Administrator, not Toprawa the AC member. I consider this nothing but blatant violation of site consensus. And if you have serious interest in nominating this article, I would probably recommend getting in contact with the user who made the objection in the first place, who, I might add with all due respect, knows just a little something about how Wookieepedia articles are put together. So it would behoove you to listen to what he has to say. Should you continue to violate site consensus, you will find yourself blocked from editing. Thank you for your cooperation. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:23, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
GAN Edit
You have two outstanding objections that are needlessly preventing the Jeroen Webb GAN from passing, and which have been sitting there for over a week. Please get on it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:30, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
Adanar FAN Edit
Naru, you currently have one unstricken objection on the Adanar FAN, despite appearing to have been resolved between you and Floyd. For formality, please strike it if you feel satisfied with it. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:21, September 13, 2009 (UTC)
Proposition Edit
Question for you, kiddo:
I'm interested in taking this to Featured status. Is this alright with you? If so, would you care to assist me? Please advise, thanks.—Tommy9281 (No truth in me) 01:31, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
- It's a deal then sir, and my apologies for "kiddo". I meant no disrespect.—Tommy9281 (No truth in me) 01:48, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
Clone assassins FAN Edit
Just so you know, Clone assassins isn't the first "out of project" nom for WP:TCW. :P JangFett Talk 23:01, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
- Here you go. Wat Tambor was the first back in 2007. JangFett Talk 23:15, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
Blocked Edit
You have been blocked from editing for three months for the (third) nomination of Unidentified Twi'lek Sith. I think this falls under disruption; you ignored an AC/administrative warning to take up the issues with the article with me and you neglected to do so, instead nominating the article for a third time without making any changes since the last nomination.. To contest this block, please contact the blocking administrator with the reason you believe the block is unjustified. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 22:42, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
GAN objection Edit
Hello, Naru. You currently have a relatively minor outstanding objection pending a response from you on the GAN page. See Floyd's C'borp nom. Please find some time to respond to the objection soon so that the nomination may be archived as successful. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:38, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
Clone officer Edit
Naru, I don't really get what you mean with a "fully sourcable rank". Stormtrooper is just a name like clone trooper and no rank. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:19, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
From Doc2725 Edit
Hey Naru,
I love how many edits you have made on pages. You are definitely a fan like me, and I am sure you know a lot more. i am sorry we are having this disagreement, but what I posted is not canon. It isn't all that different from what you wrote. Perhaps we can come to some sort of compromise. I am really into Operation Knightfall and that fall of the temple. What if I took out that they almost broke through the clone line? Even though I have read it somewhere before. Again I like all your posts and you have a really cool page.
Doc2725 13:11, March 24, 2010 (UTC)Doc
Sparring Partner Edit
Yo! There's no proof that the sparring partner is an Imperial Knight, so I'm wondering what your reasoning was behind changing the name of the article. For all we know, she could just be a courtesan that the Emperor was boning and also sparring with. Menkooroo 07:22, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
- I wasn't asserting that she was Jedi or Sith --- simply pointing out that there's really nothing to indicate that she's an IK. You don't have to be Force-sensitive to wield a lightsaber, as The Clone Wars has shown on numerous occasions; specifically in regards to sparring see Callista-minus-the Force sparring with Luke in Darksaber. So really, she could just be a random woman that Roan was getting it on with while sparring a little in the meantime. Or, failing that, she could be an Imperial Knight candidate, or any number of other things. That was what we all assumed when the issue came out a year and a half ago --- that is, that we assuredly don't know who or what she is --- and no new evidence has arrived, so there's no reason to change the title of the article at this point. I don't want to get into an edit war with you, but I do want to change the title of the article back. Menkooroo 04:57, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
Jae Akura Edit
Please note that while you have voted for the Jae Akura FAN, your objection for it remains unstricken. Please try to check it when you get the chance, as it will otherwise prevent the nomination from moving forward. Thank you. CC7567 (talk) 22:36, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
Unidentified Jedi (Endar Spire) Edit
Hey Naru, how's it been? Anyway, just wanted to let you know that I think the Jedi is mentioned in the strategy guide, I'll double-check for you and let you know.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 18:22, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
- I'll get it for you tomorrow, then. Im the meantime, could you review Koffi Arana for me, please?--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:35, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
- She is mentioned in the guide as "a Jedi master of yours." Not really notable, since she obviously can't be Revan's Jedi Master, but the guide does state the Jedi was a "Jedi master", though it does not state gender.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 21:34, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I'll have it for you tomorrow.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 23:40, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Here ya go, Naru. "Prior to reaching the bridge, you witness a fight pitting a Dark Jedi against one of you own Jedi masters. Alas, both fall!" It could mean nothing, it could warrant a change in the title. I would suggest asking Cylka about this.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 18:36, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I'll have it for you tomorrow.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 23:40, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
- She is mentioned in the guide as "a Jedi master of yours." Not really notable, since she obviously can't be Revan's Jedi Master, but the guide does state the Jedi was a "Jedi master", though it does not state gender.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 21:34, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
Your changes to Arana Edit
I wanted to talk to you about some of these changes, first the quote. I know that normally it should say "dark side" but that is not the way it is presented in the comic, which is why I had it the first way. And in the intro and bio, what's with the Dark Lord Darth Sidious? I don't feel that his true identity has any relevance to Arana, see these articles for example. ALso, it should be noted that the comic itself calls him Palps, and we don't know for sure that all the Jedi knew that he was Darth Sidious. Thirdly, the CIS, I feel, needs to be mentioned specifically, not just pipelinked as a number of planets. And I have no issue with the other changes you made.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 18:17, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
- One more example for you.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 21:31, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
- I added some context on the CIS to the bio, please let me know what you think. I aslo believe I've taken care of your objections.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 23:39, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Fwiw, you don't have to contextify the CIS or the Clone Wars. I'd even say it diminishes the article's quality. But it's your call, just don't feel you have to accept Naru's personal preferences as necessary. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 16:58, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
- Acky, it's my objection, if he doesn't want to do it, he just has to say so. If it isn't an absolute, this piece of information is missing, I rarely persue an objection. Don't feel like you have to follow my every word, these interjections were starting to get a bit annoying months ago so I certainly don't feel like dealing with them now. NaruHina Talk
02:59, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm merely commenting in the interest of article quality. If you want to deal with that, feel free. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:54, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
- Acky, it's my objection, if he doesn't want to do it, he just has to say so. If it isn't an absolute, this piece of information is missing, I rarely persue an objection. Don't feel like you have to follow my every word, these interjections were starting to get a bit annoying months ago so I certainly don't feel like dealing with them now. NaruHina Talk
Orbital Security Station Six Edit
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FAnom CSF Edit
Hi, you made some objections on the Coruscant Security Force FA nomination. Please review the changes I made as you suggested and then either strike or make other objections so that the nomination can move forward. Thanks for your help. Coruscantfan 23:25, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
Unidentified Jedi (Endar Spire) Edit
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Hi Edit
Hi Naruhina, i am new and i wanna now somethings:
- Is there any page to create a own Character
- Is there any image of lightsaber parts, a friend of mine me jura haber visto 1
- Can i be your friend
THX--Sasuke Pain - Rinnegan 01:28, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
Prima guideEdit
Hey Naru. You have the Prima guide for KotOR right? I was wondering whether you knew what info there was available on this guy. Most importantly, whether he's actually ever stated to be a Sith or not. If it isn't, the article will have to be moved. Any other info would be good too. Thanks. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 07:59, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip Naru, I completely forgot about that. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 23:18, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Thank You! Edit
Thank you for the help! Much appreciated! --Gmalek (The ability to edit does not make you intelligent) 23:06, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
CT change Edit
- Further amendments have been made to the "Grey Cadre" section of voting in the comprehensive articles vote, specifically the outlining of no self-votes being allowed, and the removal of the "vote bypass" clause in the trial page's rules section. Thefourdotelipsis 05:30, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
New Project Lead for KotOREdit
Hey Naru. As a member of the KotOR Wookieeproject, I was wondering whether you would support a change in leadership of KotOR from Cylka to Jedi Kasra. Cylka is a great user, but she hasn't been around for quite some time now. I believe new leadership is needed, and Kasra is our most active member. Let me know what you think. Thanks, SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 22:01, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Just as an update, Kasra has officially accepted a position as Chief Editor of WookieeProject Knights of the Old Republic after Tommy pointed out that Cylka intends to return to editing at some point. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 09:10, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
WP:KOTOR meeting Edit
A meeting on IRC for Thursday at 0:00 (8:00 PM EST) is being discussed here. Please take a look and discuss the time, and whether or not you'll be able to attend. Thank you.—Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:52, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
List of resourcesEdit
Hello. In the recent WookieeProject Knights of the Old Republic meeting, held on July 30th, it was decided that a list of KotOR-related resources each member had access to would be created for use in conjunction with a new requests page. If you have the time, please add yourself to the list, or contact me via talk page or e-mail. Thanks, SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 08:56, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
WP:KOTOR meetings Edit
As I was adding the meeting logs from last nights meeting, I come with and idea about meeting subpage, so I raised the discussion in Forum:Organising meetings. Please take a look and give comments, thanks. (: --Tm_T (Talk) 12:05, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
Set It Off I Suggest... Edit
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WP:RWMEdit
Hello. I don't believe we've met. I just wanted to invite you to WP:RWM since I see by your userbox that you enjoy Star Wars music. If you don't wanna join, no prob. MasterFred
(Whatever) 17:36, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
Unidentified minelayer CAN Edit
Hello, you have one unstruck objection on Unidentified minelayer's CAN entry. You voted, but you forgot to strike your last objection. Could you strike it now? Thanks. 1358 (Talk) 14:31, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
TCEdit
Hey Naru, just a head's up - the "Delete" option you voted for on the Assassination attempt TC was changed to "Merge and redirect" at the request of several commentors. Beacause you may like to change your vote as a result, I'm required to inform you. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 16:46, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
Sofixit? Edit
On the CA nominations page you mentioned something called a {{sofixit}} several times. Just want to know what that is, I might need to know in the future. Holocron 
(Complain) 05:00, November 25, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying. Holocron (Complain) 05:12, November 25, 2010 (UTC)
Anj'a Edit
Just wanted to let you know that the artwork for Intense Performer also appears in a card in the Star Wars Galaxies Trading Card Game. However, the description about Anj'a and her song and performance and so on only appears in Star Wars Galaxies, so you shouldn't need to add anything to Unidentified Gungan master songwriter. Just wanted to give you a heads up on this. You can see the card here. OLIOSTER (talk) 05:09, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
KOTOR meeting Edit
Hi! Just wanted to let you know that we're trying to have a meeting on Saturday 18th December at 23:00 UTC. –Tm_T (Talk) 13:49, December 12, 2010 (UTC)
Your CANs Edit
Please address or at least answer to the objections to Jizz-wail and Unidentified Gungan master songwriter as soon as possible, or the nominations will be removed. Thanks. 1358 (Talk) 17:03, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
Music articlesEdit
Hey there! You think you could check Arena Theme and tell me if that's what you've been talking about when it comes to "better technical backing?" Thanks. MasterFred(Whatever) 03:25, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
BD-3000 luxury droid (Senate hostage crisis) Edit
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Gelesi Edit
Some stoof:
Please go through the article and capitalize ranks and titles referring to a person, such as Queen.- His species and gender need a mention in the body.
- "Gelesi was one of the soldiers who verified a starport visa owned by the Jedi Exile, a former Jedi Knight fleeing Vaklu's men after they had interrupted her meeting with a Royalist leader who was one of the few Jedi Masters left alive in the wake of a recent Jedi purge." Could you possibly split up this, rather long sentence?
- I would suggest cutting out the Bts subheadings; they seem a bit redundant. :P
Cheers, 1358 (Talk) 23:06, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
RE: CAN Votes Edit
Hey, thanks for letting me know about the CAN votes and where i needed to be regarding my edit count. I saw that there was one for the GAN but i couldnt find anything for CAN. i probably just didn't look hard enough, haha. i figured it would be better for me to vote and not have it be counted then to not vote when it could have been counted. Also, thank you for clarifying the issue on my edit count, and telling me how to check my "Main" edits. i was wondering why it seemed so high.--Krzyjstr13 21:34, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
Re:Balsphemy Edit
Sorry for the late response. I'll see what I can do. I haven't actually read the book, though I do own it. If you need it soon, it may be better to ask someone else, but if you have some time, I should be able to help. :) MasterFred(Whatever) 18:03, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
Formatting Edit
Naru, could you please use the correct format for the GAN page. I had to correct several of your objection lists because they were using the old format. The GAN (and FAN) do not use the original formatting that the CAN page currently uses. For objections in the oppose section, you must create another subsection within the oppose section. Thanks, JangFett (Talk) 07:04, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
Re: Obitoki Edit
Done. CC7567 (talk) 20:09, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
RE:KOTOR Edit
Oh I didn't know, kind of new here, sorry! Didn't know articles had a primary editor; where do I check that? really sorry!! Songjin 08:30, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
- OK will take note of that for the future thanks! Songjin 01:32, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
Obitoki Edit
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Re: Just to be sure Edit
Thanks for the info; I guess I just got carried away.
Thanks again, Smashb96' 23:58, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
Warning Edit
I have to say, this little edit war you've been engaging in over the Set and Veré articles may just be the most ridiculous edit war I've seen on this site. "Anakin Skywalker and Padmé Amidala marry" is a sentence with a verb-only predicate; therefore, a period is needed at the end. Further removal of said period from the image caption in either article will be viewed as disruption and will result in a block from editing. Thank you for your cooperation. Grand Moff Tranner 
(Comlink) 19:13, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
RE: Limmie Edit
Happy to help, Naru. If you wanna know which teams play, two teams consisting of various clones and Mandos. And ys it did establish that the referee has those assistants. If you need more or other info, just contact me. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:28, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
Re:Parental advisory Edit
Hey Naru, been a while. Stupid school, lol. Anyway, thanks for bringing this to my attention. No, they weren't mentioned at all in game, just in his entries in the Databank entry and strategy guide.—Jedi Kasra (comlink) 22:51, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
CT:Quotes Edit
Hey Naru, I'd like to thank you for your vote in Forum:CT:Quotes. I should inform you, though, that I have made some amendments to the propositions, and I think you should take another look at the thread to make sure you still support them. You are, of course, encouraged to change your vote if you feel compelled, and to contribute to the discussion if you feel further amendments should be made. Thank you!—Axinal Convocation Chamber 17:40, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
Re: For Space! Edit
As far as I could see, the article only mentioned Dilonexa XXIII as the Centrality's main source of food. It also had weather satellites that used a proprietary tornado disruptor to keep the weather fro getting too bad. Also on the planet, droid laborers were favored more than living laborers because they did not tire or complain. I just wanted to give you this quickly, but I will search the article some more for other mentions. Always happy to help.--Exiledjedi 14:25, April 29, 2011 (UTC)
- It also mentions the Dilonexa system in a list of systems in the Centrality right before the info on Dilonexa XXIII.--Exiledjedi 14:36, April 29, 2011 (UTC)
221st et al Edit
Sorry about that. I have been systematically updating and correcting the articles that I created. Didn't know that my article got nominated. Cool. I will post the WizKids/Lucas authorized information that I have on the CAN page. GethralkinHyperwave 13:25, May 3, 2011 (UTC)
- If you need any information on any more of the PocketModel game units or card info, please do not hesitate to let me know. If I can not come up with an answer, I have other contacts that can. GethralkinHyperwave 13:51, May 3, 2011 (UTC)
- Just so you know, (and why I initially included History and other categories) there is a precedent in which organizations are formatted in FAs that can help with CAs. History and Bts are the most important to be included as categories aside from the article summary, but CANs do not always have histories. Equipment is another separate category that is unique to military organizations. Categories can help organize information (even if it is scant) for easy reference to someone trying to find something specific. If you haven't seen it and want to learn more, check out Ataru's Address on Organization FAs. GethralkinHyperwave 19:45, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
CAN votesEdit
Hey there, Naru. Just wanted to let you know that you voted for a few CANs and forgot to update the voting count. I have the same problem, so I thought I'd let you know. :P MasterFred(Whatever) 18:54, May 6, 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, and I already updated them. MasterFred
(Whatever) 18:54, May 6, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Edit
Thanks for addressing the objections on Cunning of Tyranus. I've been distracted as of late and completely forgot about it. OLIOSTER (talk) 19:31, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
88th and 221st Edit
I have posted images that you can use for these two articles on their respective Talk Pages. I would have added them, but I wasn't sure what the protocol is for adding image files to CAN articles. GethralkinHyperwave 02:20, May 13, 2011 (UTC)
Unidentified Wookiee (Sunchoo's village)Edit
Hey can you strike your objection for its CAN? You supported but left one objection unstruck. Menkooroo 04:40, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
Barn-burner: Halfway home Edit
Hey there, Naru.
I want to thank you for your efforts so far during Wookieepedia's first barn-burner. This is a not-so-personal message that's being sent out to every participant, but rest assured that everybody affiliated with this project deserves the highest praise. I've been very pleased with the number of users who have been writing, nominating, and reviewing Wookiees and Wookiee-related articles this month. Awesome job, all of you.
We're a little past the halfway mark, and at this point, I'd like to encourage everybody to focus their efforts on reviewing. Many users have been reviewing a lot already, and yes, you're absolutely welcome and encouraged to continue writing and nominating articles at this point. I just want to encourage everyone to take some time and help out others, which was one of the original purposes of this project. Additionally, the more reviewing that we all participate in, the more articles we can see promoted before the end of the month. Anything promoted after the end of May will still count as being part of the barn-burner, but it would be cool to get as much through as we can before then.
We have a list of current nominations for handy reference. If you feel inclined, find some that tickle your fancy and go nuts. Thanks again for all of your hard work. Cheers. Menkooroo 07:01, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
Implant Level System Edit
Hello, I was requested to ask someone who was part of WP:KOTOR about the Implant Level System used in Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. My main question is whether or not the Implant Level System is an in-universe term or if it should just be treated as game-mechanics. Thank you for your time.--Exiled Jedi 
(Greetings) 22:04, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
Re:Signature Edit
Already got it.Cal Jedi
(Personal Comm Channel) 02:42, May 28, 2011 (UTC)
Cal Jedi (Personal Comm Channel) 22:10, May 28, 2011 (UTC)
My aggressive wording Edit
Hello NaruHina, I'd just like to apologize if the wording in my comment to you on the KB thread "The Floor of Kashyyyk" sounded a bit harsh. I just really don't like it when people talk about Lucas hating the EU. But I probably could've said it in a more constructive way than I did. It's unfortunate that all users here (myself included) tend to give the newbies a bit of a hard time, even though the Wook is far from a complete encyclopedia of fact, and I just didn't like the answer that Needham was given, which included a Lucas-bashing line. I hope my opinion here doesn't damage my standing in this wiki. Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 17:58, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
Re:We want you Edit
Hey Naru, first off I'd like to thank you for your support. While I was disappointed to receive so many negative votes when I nominated myself, the underlying reasons—namely, self-nominating and lack of experience—were entirely logical. But the fact that you've taken the initiative to see me renominated means a great deal to me, and I wholly appreciate it. So, to answer your question, yes, I'd love to be nominated again. :P Many thanks to you, Naru!—Axinal Convocation Chamber 00:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
Wow, just wow Edit
Look you have almost everything about what I wrote wrong. I love the clone commando books, and for that matter Karen Travis. I meant the author of the Han Solo Tri that started this whole mess. also I didn't post on you page because I thought that you posting on the message thing that I made kind of associated me with what you wrote. Darth Needham 23:53, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
I don't think we can agree to disagree, after hearing what you've said I would like to say something that I didn't think I was going to when we first started arguing on the data bank and that is your right. I actually agree with on some of that Karen stuff, and # million clones, I did the math thats 2.5 clones a planet, really she just cant say 3 million clones was enough! However what swayed me was you opinion of Zahn, great auther (to find out a little more about this look at my user page), so we can Agree to agree :). Darth Needham 02:23, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
CAN issues Edit
Your role on the CAN page to judge the writing of nominations is one that can ensure the quality of this wikia, and I can see that you are very passionate about it, and you have some awards to show for it. However, please keep things in perspective. This is a fun project that we all can share in and enjoy. Occasionally, admins need to ensure that the enjoyment can continue by making and enforcing rules, and I will respect admins' reproof when it is given. However, since you are not an EC, INC, AC, or an Admin, your attempt to provide me with an administrative warning on the CAN page by threatening me with the ban associated with violating Wookieepedia Rules is inappropriate when it is not your place to enforce these Rules. Some of the comments listed above show that this is not the first time you have butt heads with others, some of whom (including admins) felt you were excessive to the point of causing disruption. This will be the last I will address you on this matter and I hope that we can move forward and continue to create quality articles and critique them to perfection. GethralkinHyperwave 08:32, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
- I see a misunderstanding happened along the way, and for that I apologize. GethralkinHyperwave 05:22, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
CAN Limit Edit
You have mentioned that a CAN has a 200 word limit. I read that the word limit in a CAN "must not exceed 250 words in length," and if the article "reaches 200 words or greater," then an intro needs to be added that "does not elevate the article over 250 words." Has the 250 word limit changed, or am I missing something, here? GethralkinHyperwave 05:22, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
- If I may butt in: if the word count is 200 or over, you should try and see if adding a proper intro would elevate word count over 250 and thus making it eligible for GAN. There's simply no reason trying to avoid reaching any word limits here. –Tm_T (Talk) 05:27, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
- I am not talking about avoiding word limits, just that the limit appears to be 250. I am all for making GAs, but I object to inflating an CAN needlessly just to try to qualify it for GA status. I can see if it is pushing close to 200 words where perhaps wording something a little differently can bring the count from 198 to 200. An intro, therefore, is appropriate after breaking that limit—in which case, the intro would not contribute to the original 200+ count, but add afterward toward a count that if less than 250 would still qualify for CAN. If it goes over the 250 then GA nomination is appropriate. However, the limit we are talking about here is 250 words, and when an article is only 180 words or so in length, an intro added to that is not appropriate. Therefore hindering a CAN's success because an objector wants to have filler added to it to boost over 200 words or insisting that an article be moved to the GAN page because it is "close" to 200 words does not appear to correspond with the CAN rules. GethralkinHyperwave 08:04, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
- Uh, that sounds weird to say the least. Anyway, there's no limit when article cannot have an intro. With rather short non-bts contents it doesn't make much sense ofcourse but there's no word count limit that I know of. Simply put: if article already has an intro and it works, let it be; if article doesn't have an intro and the word count is over 200 or near it and the contents allows a reasonable intro be written, do it and see if it works. After that see if it fits to CAN or GAN process. I cannot remember seeing any objections from Naru that were made only to puff the article to meet particular limits. And now I'm babbling, more coffee. (: –Tm_T (Talk) 08:16, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
- Splitting a short article up is not practical if the intro is basically a repeat of the body. Anyhow, Naruhina has cleared up the confusion for me, so thanks Naru, I get it now. GethralkinHyperwave 22:44, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
- Uh, that sounds weird to say the least. Anyway, there's no limit when article cannot have an intro. With rather short non-bts contents it doesn't make much sense ofcourse but there's no word count limit that I know of. Simply put: if article already has an intro and it works, let it be; if article doesn't have an intro and the word count is over 200 or near it and the contents allows a reasonable intro be written, do it and see if it works. After that see if it fits to CAN or GAN process. I cannot remember seeing any objections from Naru that were made only to puff the article to meet particular limits. And now I'm babbling, more coffee. (: –Tm_T (Talk) 08:16, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
- I am not talking about avoiding word limits, just that the limit appears to be 250. I am all for making GAs, but I object to inflating an CAN needlessly just to try to qualify it for GA status. I can see if it is pushing close to 200 words where perhaps wording something a little differently can bring the count from 198 to 200. An intro, therefore, is appropriate after breaking that limit—in which case, the intro would not contribute to the original 200+ count, but add afterward toward a count that if less than 250 would still qualify for CAN. If it goes over the 250 then GA nomination is appropriate. However, the limit we are talking about here is 250 words, and when an article is only 180 words or so in length, an intro added to that is not appropriate. Therefore hindering a CAN's success because an objector wants to have filler added to it to boost over 200 words or insisting that an article be moved to the GAN page because it is "close" to 200 words does not appear to correspond with the CAN rules. GethralkinHyperwave 08:04, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
Re: Another peek Edit
Sorry about the wait, the article implies that there was an independent government controlling the centrality when the Republic was "crumbling". It doesn't give a name for the government but it says it was too weak to spread aid to its struggling people.
Under the Empire the Centrality was semi-independent and was economically aided by the Empire. The centrality swore allegience to the Empire which took control of the military in the area. The Empire did not invade any planets though. The article says that Palpatine viewed the world as too remote to have any importance just as the Hutts did before him. The Rebellion had a few cells in the region but they also viewed the area as unimportant.
During the days of the New Republic, the centrality is under its own control again. The Centrality views the New Republic skeptically but has signed a "treaty of goodwill" with them. They opposed joining the New Republic however. In this time the Centrality's navy is filled with old Imperial vessels which the article says were strong enough to hold control over the region.
The invasion of the Yuuzhan Vong brought a wave of refugees to the Centrality, bringing overpopulation, unemployment, and a rising amount of crime. The government was threatened by Renatasian terrorism and feared Yuuzhan Vong invasion. During this time Fleet Admiral Sris Lehhett took control of the goverment in a "bloody military coup", and proclaimed himself Scrivinir (The supreme representatve of the Centrality). The former Scrivinir, Ottdefa Tavell Geen, fled to Coruscant and tried to gain support there to regain control of the Centrality. Scrivinir Lehhett was determined to stop the terrorism with "blunt force" (Earlier he was part of an invasion force that went to Renatasia. He also advocated Imperial doctrines.) As Scrivinir, Lehhett adopted ISB indimidation to hold his regime together. He halted immigration and conscripted many into the military. Some systems, such as Osean, protested his regime and as the article said, "have gone to the point of declaring that they will succeed from the coalition.)
Something else you might want from the article was that the Centrality was a barren region located between the Cron Drift and Hutt Space. If you need more information I will be happy to help.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 12:46, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
The lady in the hope trailer is Satele Shan Edit
In the Return trailer the same lady is called Satele by her master.--Darth Bal 21:16, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
One question Edit
Do you know how to change your avatar picture to a picture from the internet? May the force be with you.The awesome Darth Bal 21:58, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry Edit
I thought I saw a comment with your name on it saying that the girl from the hope trailer wasn't Satele Shan--The awesome Darth Bal 22:05, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
Star Wars: Mysteries of the Jedi Edit
- Hi, I saw that you found out about the book on your own, but anyway, thanks for creating an article for the book! Nightlily 16:05, July 5, 2011 (UTC)
Essay Edit
Hey Naru,
In effort to continue the chronicling of our FA history, I am asking and encouraging you to record your personal FA statistics here please, when time permits. Any questions, don't hesitate to ask, and thanks.—Tommy 9281 Friday, July 22, 2011, 07:15 UTC
Project Video Games Edit
Hey there Naru! I was just wondering if you would consider joining WookieeProject Video Games. I seen you're a Star Wars gamer, and we could really use your determination at this new Project. Let me know what you think. See ya! :D Cal Jedi
(Personal Comm Channel) 01:46, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
Graffiti-bomb Edit
Hey Naru, I noticed you made a number of extensive edits to Graffiti-bomb a few days ago. While I'm glad you want to participate in the barn-burner, I must inform you that I posted on the barn-burner page awhile ago that I was going to write Graffiti-bomb for the project. Thanks. Kilson(Let's have a chat) 08:40, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
- If I may butt in, there's no inuse tag in the page. –Tm_T (Talk) 08:44, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
- I apologize if I confused anyone by not putting an inuse tag on the page. However, I specifically created the Sign up section of the barn-burner page so we could identify which projects we were going to do, and to prevent any conflicts over articles from occurring. Kilson(Let's have a chat) 08:47, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
We're halfway there Edit
So guys, we're nearing the halfway point with this barn-burner. I just want to send out a broad message thanking everyone who has and plans on participating in Wookieepedia's second barn-burner, and update you guys on how it's going so far. So far, we have promoted nine Comprehensive Articles, twelve Good Articles, and one Featured Article! Fantastic job everyone who wrote and reviewed those weapons articles, I couldn't have asked for a better group to do so. We also have a number of current Good and Featured Article Nominations currently up, which you can see here.
However, as we approach the halfway point, I do want to encourage you all to keep writing and reviewing weapon articles for the barn-burner. Our goal should be to meet or surpass the level set by the previous barn-burner, which had over forty promoted articles. While we should aim to pass as many articles as possible by the end of the month, I may extend the barn-burner a little into September for any stragglers, especially for those Users who are writing extremely long Featured Articles for the project.
I should also notify participants of a recent Consensus Track over weapons that is about to pass. The CT is over when we should fill in the "Owners" field for Template:Weapon. Right now, it seems as if we are leaning towards filling in the field for unique weapon types, and not filling in the field for general weapon types. As such, we should fix any weapons we have, or will, write for the barn-burner to fit these new parameters. Thanks you for reading this, and keep up the good work. Kilson(Let's have a chat) 09:42, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
Graffiti-bomb Edit
Please take a look at your remaining objection to Graffiti-bomb. It is ready to pass when you've struck the objection. Thanks. 1358 (Talk) 08:04, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
Burl Ives Edit
Hey NaruHina. I see you've done some edits to Burl Ives, although I didn't notice that until I had started my own. I hope I didn't tread on any of your plans or anything. I just would hate to see that article lose it's FA status so I was trying to do what I could to save it. I planned on adding a bit more to the article, if that's cool? — Hunter Kahn 01:35, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
Stewjon!Edit
Here, along with some other TPM tidbits, is a mention of Stewjon. Not that there's any detail at all, but you might want to add this to the BTS since it's out there. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 00:00, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
RE: Eras Edit
Ummm...I am a little confused here, I am not really sure what you are trying to ask me. I will try to answer the best I can, but since I have the Wii version of the game which does not have the databank, I am unsure how it related to gameplay. I think that it was intended that the databank entries to be from the same time as the game, but I do not think that we can say this without speculation. Unless the databank can be accessed during gameplay then I do not believe that we can authoritatively say what era the entries are part of. What do you think of this reasoning?--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 16:33, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
- Sure, I guess a CT would solve this.--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 17:12, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
Unidentified planet 1 (Dilonexa system) Edit
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IRC Edit
Hey, Naru, if you have time, we could discuss the objections for Unidentified Utai patron on IRC. I'm currently on and possibly will be for another hour or so. If you're on later in the day, you can ping me, since I will most likely be available. JangFett (Talk) 16:41, October 20, 2011 (UTC)
Re: Three Jedi Masters Edit
Sorry, I wasn't even aware of that TC. I've restored the page, so hopefully more people can make a decision on what to do with it. Hope that helps. CC7567 (talk) 02:38, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
Unidentified Utai patron Edit
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TC Edit
Hey, Naru. Consensus has been reached for the Three Jedi Masters TC. I thought I would let you take care of turning the article into a disambig page, since you know the subject material. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:39, November 19, 2011 (UTC)
Argauun Edit
- Anything new about that problem? No answer per e-mail? Clone Commander Lee Talk 12:33, November 23, 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. Well, I guess we have to wait and see. Clone Commander Lee Talk 12:47, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
Re:3,955 and Revan Edit
Hey Naru! Gah, I'm sorry for leaving it at that, I must've forgotten to add any new info.
(Prologue and Chapter 3 indicate the events of the novel take place two years after KotOR, i.e., in 3,954 BBY.)
In Chapter 7, Revan tells Canderous Ordo that Mission Vao and Zaalbar have "worked hard to build up a nice import-export business over the past year."
Hope this helps. Imperators II(Talk) 00:45, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
Barn-burnerEdit
(Whatever) 20:22, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
RE: KOTOR 3Edit
- But, NaruHina, precisely because all sequel stories of Star Wars are written with Roman numerals, said only that way would be written: III rather than that be written: 3 as the game not canceled.
I'm sorry if my message is written not quite right, I am a Dutchman, and my English is unfortunately not so good. Tim Auke Kools 17:03, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, then I will accept it. Tim Auke Kools 08:31, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
Team Millennium Holos Edit
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BB extensionEdit
Just letting you know that the barn-burner has been extended through January due to a lack of activity during a busy December and the release of the film still being a month away. You can see discussion here. MasterFred(Whatever) 22:02, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for getting my first nominated QOTD though, and receive +100 internets for making a Darkwing Duck reference! —Unsigned comment by Fattoler (talk • contribs).
Help Edit
My account has been active for 5 days but i'm still unable to submit a modification for Meetra Surik's page in the "TALK" section. Is it normal ?
Thanks.
--Damienpato1987 08:20, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
Hello NaruHina! : need help Edit
Thanks for answering, I've been able to edit since yesterday but I heard I needed to submit before I edit anything. I'd like to edit Meetra Surik's page and I left a detailed message on her "Talk" section. The sources of course are from the game itself. In fact I was quite surprised to see that Revan's page was updated (about the events on Taral V) but not hers.--Damienpato1987 08:47, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Hello NaruHina! : RE need help Edit
Thank your for your help --Damienpato1987 08:47, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Episode I Adventures 4 Edit
Hey, Naru, any mention of Squibs in Episode I Adventures 4, or only their battering ram? ~Savage
03:26, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
- I only have the game book, which only mentions the cannon. I'll fix the GB's Appearances in a second. In the middle of an edit. NaruHina Talk 03:34, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, I actually randomly have that one (game book and novel). What page is it on? I'll try to find it in the novel. And let me know if there's anything else you need me to check for you. ~Savage 03:36, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Aw, I thought I was the only one. Not special. :3 It's on Pages 44, and 59-61. As for something you can help me with, I've been wondering for twelve years how the book ends. Also, is this person's presence covered by some character in the novel or does it just say "that person over there tells everyone—Mace Windu, Yoda, Qui-Gon Jinn, Everyone—to lead the people outside while he or she will clear the bombs and save the girl single-handedly"? NaruHina Talk 03:52, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Looks like the novel makes Yoda the hero, whereas the game book allows the player to be some random Jedi. The final chapter has Chief Scientist Frexton arrested, and Teela Panjarra is safe. The Jedi go back to Coruscant, but Bama Vook and Leeper stay on Corulag to start a shipping business. On the Radiant VII, Obi-Wan asks Adi Gallia how she saved Qui-Gon's life at some point in the past. She says she has no idea. Qui-Gon says she stopped him from eating some bad food at a banquet once. Windu gets a message from Valorum that the Neimoidians are up to something in the Darpa sector. Obi-Wan wonders who hired the Bartokks, and Qui-Gon says they may never know. Meanwhile, Boonda and Groodo the Hutts curse the Jedi for foiling their plot, and then secure transport back to Esseles with Bama Vook. The end! ~Savage 04:35, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
- FINALLY! Thanks, Bob! That was the last time I picked up something from a free book pile without reading it because it said Star Wars on the front. Twelve years of gnawing assauged in an instant! Nonetheless, Yoda as the protagonist means I feared correctly and I won't be able to go anywhere with this article without owning the main book myself. The search continues! NaruHina Talk 04:49, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
- One more thing, while I've actually made the article, does the main book say anything about the shaft maintenance droid? It's on page 67 of the game book. And was the Science Service given any proper context? NaruHina Talk 05:38, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, Naru, just noticed this followup question. In the novel, the droid doesn't seem to play any role. Yoda follows Frexton by jumping down the shaft onto the descending lift, which appears to be the first choice in the game book. As for the Science Service, all we know is that they are affiliated with "the Academy," and that they have a tower with a nursery in it for employees' children. That really seems to be it... ~Savage 01:45, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
- Oh that's fun. Thanks for the info. NaruHina Talk 19:10, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
- Oh that's fun. Thanks for the info. NaruHina Talk
- Sorry, Naru, just noticed this followup question. In the novel, the droid doesn't seem to play any role. Yoda follows Frexton by jumping down the shaft onto the descending lift, which appears to be the first choice in the game book. As for the Science Service, all we know is that they are affiliated with "the Academy," and that they have a tower with a nursery in it for employees' children. That really seems to be it... ~Savage
- One more thing, while I've actually made the article, does the main book say anything about the shaft maintenance droid? It's on page 67 of the game book. And was the Science Service given any proper context? NaruHina Talk
- FINALLY! Thanks, Bob! That was the last time I picked up something from a free book pile without reading it because it said Star Wars on the front. Twelve years of gnawing assauged in an instant! Nonetheless, Yoda as the protagonist means I feared correctly and I won't be able to go anywhere with this article without owning the main book myself. The search continues! NaruHina Talk
- Looks like the novel makes Yoda the hero, whereas the game book allows the player to be some random Jedi. The final chapter has Chief Scientist Frexton arrested, and Teela Panjarra is safe. The Jedi go back to Coruscant, but Bama Vook and Leeper stay on Corulag to start a shipping business. On the Radiant VII, Obi-Wan asks Adi Gallia how she saved Qui-Gon's life at some point in the past. She says she has no idea. Qui-Gon says she stopped him from eating some bad food at a banquet once. Windu gets a message from Valorum that the Neimoidians are up to something in the Darpa sector. Obi-Wan wonders who hired the Bartokks, and Qui-Gon says they may never know. Meanwhile, Boonda and Groodo the Hutts curse the Jedi for foiling their plot, and then secure transport back to Esseles with Bama Vook. The end! ~Savage
- Aw, I thought I was the only one. Not special. :3 It's on Pages 44, and 59-61. As for something you can help me with, I've been wondering for twelve years how the book ends. Also, is this person's presence covered by some character in the novel or does it just say "that person over there tells everyone—Mace Windu, Yoda, Qui-Gon Jinn, Everyone—to lead the people outside while he or she will clear the bombs and save the girl single-handedly"? NaruHina Talk
- Ah, I actually randomly have that one (game book and novel). What page is it on? I'll try to find it in the novel. And let me know if there's anything else you need me to check for you. ~Savage
Pickles Edit
Hey there! I came across a blog entry by Gregory Walker that might have some BTS info for some of Dex's menu items. In some cases it might be as minimal as a leading BTS quote --- "Because we all know the B'omarr Monks are experts at pickling things" seems like it would be perfect for that. :D Enjoy! Menkooroo 04:44, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
- Also a heads up that LobwuWa Loba requires an update from the new Insider. He's in The Phantom Menace! Let me know if you need a scan of the relevant Insider page. Menkooroo 08:01, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
- "An aspiring Aqualish Podracer" is all it says. Menkooroo 22:09, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Right behind Graxol Kelvyyn's left shoulder. He's standing next to a Weequay who likes to raise his arms. Menkooroo 00:35, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
- Here's what might be a good infobox image if ya want it. Yes, this is the best we can do. I'll go through the comic adaptations and (Picture only) sources that I found for Weazel and Graxol and add anything I find him in. They won't have any new info! Menkooroo 00:54, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
- Done. Except for maybe the Character Encyclopedia, which does include a small screenshot of Graxol from the box. I'll check if it's still at my local bookstore next time I'm there. Menkooroo 05:58, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
- I've got the Character Encyclopedia and can check it if you need. What entry does Graxol appear in? ~Savage 13:23, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
- I think it's Watto's. There's a small picture of him in Watto's box. Menkooroo 02:50, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
- The character is either male, or unidentified species. Generally you are referring to Lobwuwa as a male now, while leaving the gender blank in infobox, and categorizing in unidentified gender. Darn Insider, putting more quality articles at risk. :PHanzo Hasashi 23:26, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
- Wait, is there a way to distinguish between male and female aqualish? I'd noticed I had started using pronouns and fixed it. Things like that are why I didn't GAN it right away. NaruHina Talk 23:35, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
- Wait, is there a way to distinguish between male and female aqualish? I'd noticed I had started using pronouns and fixed it. Things like that are why I didn't GAN it right away. NaruHina Talk
- The character is either male, or unidentified species. Generally you are referring to Lobwuwa as a male now, while leaving the gender blank in infobox, and categorizing in unidentified gender. Darn Insider, putting more quality articles at risk. :PHanzo Hasashi 23:26, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
- I think it's Watto's. There's a small picture of him in Watto's box. Menkooroo 02:50, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
- I've got the Character Encyclopedia and can check it if you need. What entry does Graxol appear in? ~Savage
- Done. Except for maybe the Character Encyclopedia, which does include a small screenshot of Graxol from the box. I'll check if it's still at my local bookstore next time I'm there. Menkooroo 05:58, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
- Here's what might be a good infobox image if ya want it. Yes, this is the best we can do. I'll go through the comic adaptations and (Picture only) sources that I found for Weazel and Graxol and add anything I find him in. They won't have any new info! Menkooroo 00:54, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
- Right behind Graxol Kelvyyn's left shoulder. He's standing next to a Weequay who likes to raise his arms. Menkooroo 00:35, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
- "An aspiring Aqualish Podracer" is all it says. Menkooroo 22:09, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
Your CA articleEdit
Hello there. I was about to edit this page, but then I discovered that it's your CA article. I wanted to say that the name in the article is wrong, am I right about that? And also, there should be a bullet at the External links. Greets, --Station7 18:54, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
I mean the name in the infobox is not the same as the article-name. --Station7 19:00, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
RE: 1st template Edit
I agree, but since it's the consensus of the wikia, I'll stop reverting it. Thanks for letting me know. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 02:24, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
Re: Jedi Emergency Edit
Hey Naru! I'm sorry for the terrible delay in answering, but - yes, I do have the main book. Why? Is there some info you would like me to provide, assuming it's still relevant? Imperators II(Talk) 19:40, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
Dawn Pyramid of Aargau Edit
Hey, I was wondering if you had forgotten about the objection you left on my most recent GA nomination. I believe it may have been in error and I thought I'd direct your attention to my response. graestan(talk) 04:50, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
Re:Duel of the FatesEdit
I've recently started working on it again. Thanks for the info! It'll go great in the pop culture section! MasterFred(Whatever) 04:50, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
Bravo 1 Edit
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FatesEdit
Well, here it is! I was wondering if you may be interested in doing a little bit of a pre-nom. Figured you'd be the most interested. MasterFred(Whatever) 20:27, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
LobwuWa Loba Edit
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- I notice you call the character male, but leave gender blank in infobox, and categorize as unidentified gender. I'm assuming all the gendered pronouns are mistakes, but I'll leave it for the nominator to know what to fix. Hanzo Hasashi 21:21, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for catching that. NaruHina Talk 23:37, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for catching that. NaruHina Talk
Bravo 1 Edit
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Naru! A smooth transition from GAN to FAN if there ever was one. Congrats on being the first person to promote the same article multiple times in one barn-burner. :) Menkooroo 00:43, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
Palpatine implying that Anakin would turn to the Dark Side if he killed him on the spot quote. Edit
Here's the quote regarding Palpatine's implication of Anakin turning to the Dark Side if he struck him down then and there:
Palpatine: Are you going to kill me?
Anakin: I would most certainly want to...
Palpatine: I know you would. I can feel your anger. It gives you focus... Makes you stronger...
In particular, it's the third line right there, as immediately after that line, Anakin shuts off his lightsaber. Weedle McHairybug 02:39, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
"This" Edit
I'm moving the conversation to user talk since we're getting away from the article topic itself. Firstly: yes, "this" is used to give context, but whether or not a word is capable of giving context has nothing to do with how it is used regarding tense. "This" refers to something present and currently demonstrable, a point you've as-of-yet failed to provide any logical examples for why it shouldn't be the case. (And please be aware that if you or Trayus or anyone else does provide such logical proof, then I'll be more than willing to immediately let this whole thing go.) Furthermore—mind, I can only speak for myself—I typically (if not always) mentioned exactly why I made an objection to "this," and people were also always free to question it. I want to reiterate that we didn't whimsically or capriciously decide that it looked or sounded better; it was originally done because we honestly thought it was a grammar issue that needed fixing. (I'd also like to point out that when this started—about two years ago for me, possibly more than that for others—Cal hadn't joined the Wook yet, so it's possible he was just never given an explanation on the matter. And would you mind pointing me to other occasions you've heard that opinion?) Anyway, let's both try and keep this civil; I'll simmer down, you'll drop the accusations, and everybody will be cool. :) Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 19:08, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, Jon, here's how I see it. This and these have no tense, simply because they are not verbs, and only verbs have tense as I understand it. Nevertheless, there is a connection to the present implied in the word this, as the definition from Merriam-Webster attests: "the person, thing, or idea that is present or near in place, time, or thought or that has just been mentioned." source However, note that it is "place, time, or thought" that the word refers to. Thus, I can see why you and others may object to the word on the grounds that it refers to the present time, which is one definition. However, I'd argue that in the context of a Wookieepedia article, it refers to the an idea that is "present ... in thought" instead. So, now we have to deal with "present in thought"; is that a violation of in/out-of-universe? I can see why it might be argued that way, since "present in thought" does not sound too compatible with "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away." But I don't see that as a compelling reason. If we're supposed to represent an in-universe encyclopedia, then "present in thought" is perfectly OK and kosher with an in-universe perspective. After all, an in-universe encyclopedia has readers, and our job is to bring ideas into their minds. These ideas are what we refer to with this, and that shouldn't be a problem in my mind. Hope that makes sense! ~Savage 21:03, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the input, Bob. :) I still think it doesn't really fit in the past tense, but I understand the other viewpoint there, too; because now there's at least some form of logical argument behind it. So I'll still avoid using "this," but I won't make an objection out of it if someone else uses it (unless we ultimately get some kind of site-wide consensus one way or the other, which I don't think will happen anytime soon—I can already see one half of our user-base split down the middle in a CT of "use 'this'" vs. "don't use 'this,'" with the other half all voting in the omnipresent "meh" section). Anyway, cheers guys, Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 21:24, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
- Well, before Cheers, I want to point out that allowing the author to decide is one of the things I point to as an option all the time. If it would be fair to say we have pet issues we care most abou, author choice is mine. I also want to point out that my stance on "This" has never been based upon the belief that "A" should not be used. It is based in I don't want to use it, here's why (grammatical word), but you can use it on your articles if you want to. Just don't force me to do it. For example, I use "the planet of Coruscant" whereas most people use the phrasing "the planet Coruscant". Is one right and the other wrong? No, they're both right. In my mind, the latter is more correct than the former because you would not call a city "the city Townsville", but the former is still right and is used in-universe (both have been) which renders argument against its use moot (the whole issue is moot because they've both been used). Even were it not IU and I did not believe in author choice, I still would not object to leaving out "of" on the grounds that it is a valid option: see the frequency of "the planet Earth." Per SavageBob, who shares my reasoning and was far better at expressing it (as usual), there are compelling arguments for both based upon the same base source. By allowing author choice on highly debatable grammar issues like this, when both sides have compelling arguments but deciding the debate one way or the other concretely would not affect the reader's eperience one tiny bit, we avoid these explosive, poisonous, virtually pointless debates. This way, we may split the Wook between those who use one way and those who don't, but how is that a negative thing? It allows variety and fluidity where setting things in stone can make things rigid for a different person's writing style or have even have unintended consequences: "A rebel soldier fought in the Alliance to Restore the Republic's military." Are you talking about a specific soldier or a Republic soldier in general? Yes, that's answered by the sentence's context as the first of the article on the soldier, but it's still weird phrasing. This would be a case where "This" would have a reason to be used that is not arbitrary or even customary (different writing style), but would have a logical basis. Similarly, if I were to write a sentence that went something like "A Dark Jedi of the Disciples of Ragnos was part of a group of Dark Jedi assigned to the planet of Corellia," I would consciously omit the "of" in "the planet of" so that sentence would have one less "of". I personally can stand one repeat in the sentence, but two starts sounding odd. There are exceptions and qualifications to virtually every facet of grammer we could sit and debate and take strong, polarized stances on. Concreting things only serves to upset those who took the opposing stance and, because those people are used to writing it one way, it makes phrasing those things in their head more difficult, and progressively so the more rules we concrete. Author choice is the way to go. Everyone is happy with the articles they are writing and can tolerate differences, there's more variety between how articles were written so they're not homogenous (I've heard someone say, reading articles, they notice there are about 7 patterns peope follow), and we don't have to pick over articles for apocryphal grammar rules we personally don't like for whatever reason. NaruHina Talk 23:04, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
- I realize we both came off as hostile to each other over on the CAN, but I made a distinct effort to be civil here, and saying "before cheers" is not an appropriate response. I already requested once that you keep this civil, and I'll only do it one more time: please, avoid such unnecessary discourtesis that only serve to distract from the discussion at hand. Now, I'm going to take your post one point at a time. Firstly, author preference is not an option when it's a strict matter of right vs. wrong; someone may prefer to say "I'm doing good" to "I'm doing well," but just because they like their way better does not make it right. I initially understood the use of "this" to be wrong; clearly, from the definition Bob found, it's a bit more complicated than I was originally told. (I should emphasize that I still think it's wrong to use, but I can understand why other people might not think so, which is the only reason why I won't still object to it.) Secondly, I never accused you of thinking that "A" shouldn't be used, so I don't know where you came up with that. Thirdly, if you really wanted to avoid a debate, you would've just changed the word and not complained about it, since you say you don't think using a different word is incorrect anyway. Fourthly, you may think it's great to split the Wook between users who write one way and those who write another, but plenty of people here think that consistency is in the best interests of being encyclopedic, and prefer sticking with one way—even if it's not their way. Fifthly, in stark contrast to earlier, now you are saying you think that "A" shouldn't be used in several circumstances, so I'm not entirely sure what to believe your stance on the matter is. Sixthly, regarding the idea that concreting things is going to upset some people who write differently: at the risk of sounding unsympathetic, is it really that hard to just get over it? I know I don't write on the Wook now how I did when I first joined. There are obvious stylistic differences you just have to get used to—differences between how people normally write elsewhere, and how they should write here; and those stylistic differences have practical purposes. Lastly, here we are again, back to the idea that more homogeneity is a bad thing: the vast majority of votes I've seen on CTs are for homogeneity and consistency here, so I very strongly disagree with your belief that most people think that different styles across the site is preferable. Otherwise, why would we use American English spellings instead of both American and British English? You may have to adapt your style—I know I had to in order to write here—but it really shouldn't be that big a deal. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 00:15, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, guys—sorry to butt in again. Jon, I didn't find Naru's comments above to be uncivil; I took his "before cheers" to be a "thanks for the civil debate" kind of comment. I may have misread it, though. At any rate, I think everyone comes off as a couple of shades ruder in plain text, so we should all probably assume that nothing is meant as an insult unless it's explicit, I think. Since you both seem to be agreed on the point of a and this being OK for the time being, maybe we can just leave this debate alone for a while and let everyone cool down? Sorry again to stick my neck in. I very much respect both of you for your work around the Wook. :) Best, ~Savage 13:44, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, I just wanted to quickly mention what Trayus pointed out to me, which is basically what Menk said here: starting unidentified articles with "This" doesn't work because it's self-referencing the title from an OOU perspective. If we're going to allow the use of "this" in IU portions of articles, it needs to be in reference to something that was just said (per the definition you provided). Anyway, I'll leave the debate alone now; I just thought that was worth mentioning. Your mediation is much appreciated, Bob; the respect flows both ways here. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 14:40, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Before I respond to Jon in full—and however you interperet it, uncivility is not going to be intended—I'm just going to point out you're not butting in, Bob. Your view is always appreciated here; you're much better at these sorts of things than I am. And you were right about my "Before Cheers" intent. :) Your opinion is too, Jon, which is why I'm going to take my time with this response. I want to try to be as clear as possible, so I'll follow your bullet points. Apparently you think we're coming at author choice from polarized viewpoints. We really aren't. We actually agree on a lot of these, but apparently I wasn't clear, which is one of my many character faults: I think I've covered something well, but I generally havent. :/ NaruHina Talk 17:45, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, Jon, but school has picked up such that I haven't had any time to work on this. I rammed out about 6/7 of a first draft in the nights after my last post, but it quickly became apparent that writing at night for this wasn't wise: not enough lucidity to overcome passion. I've barely had any free time otherwise and what little I do have generally needs to go to sleep. I'll try to finish next time I have an extended vacation, but I just can't right now. Hope you'll understand, NaruHina Talk 21:20, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, Jon, but school has picked up such that I haven't had any time to work on this. I rammed out about 6/7 of a first draft in the nights after my last post, but it quickly became apparent that writing at night for this wasn't wise: not enough lucidity to overcome passion. I've barely had any free time otherwise and what little I do have generally needs to go to sleep. I'll try to finish next time I have an extended vacation, but I just can't right now. Hope you'll understand, NaruHina Talk
- Hey, guys—sorry to butt in again. Jon, I didn't find Naru's comments above to be uncivil; I took his "before cheers" to be a "thanks for the civil debate" kind of comment. I may have misread it, though. At any rate, I think everyone comes off as a couple of shades ruder in plain text, so we should all probably assume that nothing is meant as an insult unless it's explicit, I think. Since you both seem to be agreed on the point of a and this being OK for the time being, maybe we can just leave this debate alone for a while and let everyone cool down? Sorry again to stick my neck in. I very much respect both of you for your work around the Wook. :) Best, ~Savage
- I realize we both came off as hostile to each other over on the CAN, but I made a distinct effort to be civil here, and saying "before cheers" is not an appropriate response. I already requested once that you keep this civil, and I'll only do it one more time: please, avoid such unnecessary discourtesis that only serve to distract from the discussion at hand. Now, I'm going to take your post one point at a time. Firstly, author preference is not an option when it's a strict matter of right vs. wrong; someone may prefer to say "I'm doing good" to "I'm doing well," but just because they like their way better does not make it right. I initially understood the use of "this" to be wrong; clearly, from the definition Bob found, it's a bit more complicated than I was originally told. (I should emphasize that I still think it's wrong to use, but I can understand why other people might not think so, which is the only reason why I won't still object to it.) Secondly, I never accused you of thinking that "A" shouldn't be used, so I don't know where you came up with that. Thirdly, if you really wanted to avoid a debate, you would've just changed the word and not complained about it, since you say you don't think using a different word is incorrect anyway. Fourthly, you may think it's great to split the Wook between users who write one way and those who write another, but plenty of people here think that consistency is in the best interests of being encyclopedic, and prefer sticking with one way—even if it's not their way. Fifthly, in stark contrast to earlier, now you are saying you think that "A" shouldn't be used in several circumstances, so I'm not entirely sure what to believe your stance on the matter is. Sixthly, regarding the idea that concreting things is going to upset some people who write differently: at the risk of sounding unsympathetic, is it really that hard to just get over it? I know I don't write on the Wook now how I did when I first joined. There are obvious stylistic differences you just have to get used to—differences between how people normally write elsewhere, and how they should write here; and those stylistic differences have practical purposes. Lastly, here we are again, back to the idea that more homogeneity is a bad thing: the vast majority of votes I've seen on CTs are for homogeneity and consistency here, so I very strongly disagree with your belief that most people think that different styles across the site is preferable. Otherwise, why would we use American English spellings instead of both American and British English? You may have to adapt your style—I know I had to in order to write here—but it really shouldn't be that big a deal. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 00:15, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Well, before Cheers, I want to point out that allowing the author to decide is one of the things I point to as an option all the time. If it would be fair to say we have pet issues we care most abou, author choice is mine. I also want to point out that my stance on "This" has never been based upon the belief that "A" should not be used. It is based in I don't want to use it, here's why (grammatical word), but you can use it on your articles if you want to. Just don't force me to do it. For example, I use "the planet of Coruscant" whereas most people use the phrasing "the planet Coruscant". Is one right and the other wrong? No, they're both right. In my mind, the latter is more correct than the former because you would not call a city "the city Townsville", but the former is still right and is used in-universe (both have been) which renders argument against its use moot (the whole issue is moot because they've both been used). Even were it not IU and I did not believe in author choice, I still would not object to leaving out "of" on the grounds that it is a valid option: see the frequency of "the planet Earth." Per SavageBob, who shares my reasoning and was far better at expressing it (as usual), there are compelling arguments for both based upon the same base source. By allowing author choice on highly debatable grammar issues like this, when both sides have compelling arguments but deciding the debate one way or the other concretely would not affect the reader's eperience one tiny bit, we avoid these explosive, poisonous, virtually pointless debates. This way, we may split the Wook between those who use one way and those who don't, but how is that a negative thing? It allows variety and fluidity where setting things in stone can make things rigid for a different person's writing style or have even have unintended consequences: "A rebel soldier fought in the Alliance to Restore the Republic's military." Are you talking about a specific soldier or a Republic soldier in general? Yes, that's answered by the sentence's context as the first of the article on the soldier, but it's still weird phrasing. This would be a case where "This" would have a reason to be used that is not arbitrary or even customary (different writing style), but would have a logical basis. Similarly, if I were to write a sentence that went something like "A Dark Jedi of the Disciples of Ragnos was part of a group of Dark Jedi assigned to the planet of Corellia," I would consciously omit the "of" in "the planet of" so that sentence would have one less "of". I personally can stand one repeat in the sentence, but two starts sounding odd. There are exceptions and qualifications to virtually every facet of grammer we could sit and debate and take strong, polarized stances on. Concreting things only serves to upset those who took the opposing stance and, because those people are used to writing it one way, it makes phrasing those things in their head more difficult, and progressively so the more rules we concrete. Author choice is the way to go. Everyone is happy with the articles they are writing and can tolerate differences, there's more variety between how articles were written so they're not homogenous (I've heard someone say, reading articles, they notice there are about 7 patterns peope follow), and we don't have to pick over articles for apocryphal grammar rules we personally don't like for whatever reason. NaruHina Talk
- Thanks for the input, Bob. :) I still think it doesn't really fit in the past tense, but I understand the other viewpoint there, too; because now there's at least some form of logical argument behind it. So I'll still avoid using "this," but I won't make an objection out of it if someone else uses it (unless we ultimately get some kind of site-wide consensus one way or the other, which I don't think will happen anytime soon—I can already see one half of our user-base split down the middle in a CT of "use 'this'" vs. "don't use 'this,'" with the other half all voting in the omnipresent "meh" section). Anyway, cheers guys, Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 21:24, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
EduCorps Edit
Sorry your nomination wasn't successful. For what its worth, I still think you would make a good EduCorps. 
OLIOSTER (talk) 14:37, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- It's not a big deal. Never actually thought it would go through. The EC is just a list of those we consider trustworthy to give 250 words a thorough, good review and that people think I belong on that list means more to me than actually being on it. NaruHina Talk 16:14, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Well that's good. Could I get you to look over 30th Anniversary Bash for me before I take it to the GAN. Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Thanks!
OLIOSTER (talk) 18:08, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Would And the Band Played On: The Band's Tale be a good source for confirming its at Jabba's palace. It says that Jabba had them under a lifetime contract at the time the painting was made. As for Crumb, any suggestions? OLIOSTER (talk) 15:15, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
- Would And the Band Played On: The Band's Tale be a good source for confirming its at Jabba's palace. It says that Jabba had them under a lifetime contract at the time the painting was made. As for Crumb, any suggestions?
- Well that's good. Could I get you to look over 30th Anniversary Bash for me before I take it to the GAN. Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Thanks!
DOTF FANEdit
You supported the nom, but you didn't strike your objection. Just letting ya know. :P MasterFred(Whatever) 18:17, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
KOTOREdit
So sorry, Naru. A new user was trying to add some stuff to it, and I couldn't see the point of that section. If you want to continue it, feel free. Cade Calrayn 
01:29, May 17, 2012 (UTC)