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QuorkEdit

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WhrrEdit

I was recently reviewing Lin-D and noticed you just had a Characteristics section, instead of a P&T and a Description one. Whrr, a droid I plan to nom, has both a P&T and a Description. Should I combine the two? Thanks, 501st dogma(talk) 16:34, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

  • There is no layout guide for droid articles (although there needs to be one). I'd just go with whatever you think is best until such time as we can create a CT to establish a layout for droids. ~SavageBOB sig.png 17:32, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Redlinks in Gand Edit

Hey, I tackled two of the redlinks in Gand, mainly Aulus G'luun and Unidentified Gand scavenger. I just reworded the information in the article to make some stubs, but I got those two at least. The others I don't know enough to make sufficient stubs for, so I'm just reminding you about them since you put them there. :P The easy ones were tackled, though. They need pictures, possibly more information, but that's at least two redlinks down, two to go. Trak Nar Ramble on 05:01, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Interview Edit

Hey, Bob,

Two months ago I interviewed Cav for the NewsNet about FAs and FA writing. Would you be interested in doing a similar interview? You're one of the most prolific FA writers on the site right now, and your love of species articles would make for an interesting interview. I'd also love to get your thoughts on some of the questions I asked Cav. What do you think? I could e-mail you the questions or post them here; your choice. Let me know! Menkooroo 05:39, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

  • Hey, Menk! I'm blushing! Sorry I missed this yesterday. Sure, I'd be happy to answer some questions. Cav last year sent Eyrezer and me some questions regarding the Aliens Wookieeproject that was supposed to make it to the blog, so my only hesitation would be that it'd end up a SavageBob overload on the blog. But feel free to send the questions and we can discuss all that in email? ~SavageBOB sig.png 14:09, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

WP:AS questionnaire Edit

Hah, I'd forgotten about that! Sure, I'm still interested to do the piece. Wing some answers over and I'll write it up. might need to update my notes on the WP:AS stats, but that should be nothing hard. - Cavalier OneFarStar.svg(Squadron channel) 10:47, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Vodran Edit

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Nice work, Bob. Also, check my comment regarding the example names on the nom page; I think a case can be made for including them as actual individual articles. - Cavalier OneFarStar.svg(Squadron channel) 10:47, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

  • Thanks! Yeah, I think I disagree with the CUSWE on this one. Since AA and UAA label those lists "Example Names," it strikes me as too speculative to assume that means "Example [Vodrans]." Clearly some of them are based on known individuals of the species, but the others need to wait for some identification, in my opinion. But I'm open to convincing. :) ~SavageBOB sig.png 14:07, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Vodran confusion Edit

Sorry, perhaps I should leave the WP:AS updating to the nominator, but it is just so satisfying to update all the projects! By the way, you only have 2 species FANs at the moment. Your standards are slipping! --Eyrezer 14:23, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

  • Ha, no it's fine! I didn't notice your update. :P Yeah, the droids Barn Burner has consumed some of my summer energy. What can I say; I have a soft spot for droids! But there're more species waiting in the wings! ~SavageBOB sig.png 14:25, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Mandalore the Vindicated Edit

Hey Bob, I'm lookin to work on the article, any info I need to know? I don't have access to TOR, unfortunately (curses!). Any info would be greatly appreciate.—Jedi Kasra (comlink) 17:12, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • Hey, Kasra! I'm out of town for a few days and unable to log into TOR, but I'll see if there's anything in the codex when I get a chance. As for whether he plays a role in any quests, I don't think so. He may only be referenced in the codex. ~SavageBOB sig.png 16:38, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

A message Edit

Hey, Bob, when you get a chance, Nif Sarjun's feeling a little offended. Apparently, he heard that you didn't know he spoke Nautila, so he'd like to talk to you here. :P Cade Calrayn StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 19:53, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • Bob, I saw you in the RC feed a minute ago, and I just thought I'd let you know Sarjun's ready to go whenever you are. Cade Calrayn StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 04:37, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
    • Hey, Bob, you kinda forgot something :P You didn't sign your name to the support section. Cade Calrayn StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 05:24, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
      • Per someone's (can't remember who) suggestion, I added an "unsigned" and an EC to the support section of Nif Sarjun, since your edit summary said report and you changed the number of EC's supporting. I've archived him already. Cade Calrayn StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 16:16, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
        • Whoops! Yeah, I'm on the road, so sorry if I forgot. ~SavageBOB sig.png 06:01, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

Request for help (Charal) Edit

Hello Savage Bob. I have a special request for you. As you probably know, I've been trying to improve the quality of my work here on the Wook for a few weeks. Unfortunately, my ability to produce good English prose isn't proportional to my enthusiasm, alack! I should be ashamed, because I'm supposed to be "upper intermediate level", but it seems my English skills are slmowly withering... Well, to make a long story short, I'd like to know if you could proof-read my improvement project for the Charal article. I know you're much more into Ewok-related things than Nightsisters, but after all, Charal was in The Battle for Endor, wasn't she? ;-) Cheers. --LelalMekha 10:26, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

  • Hey, Lelal, I'd be happy to look over Charal for you. :) It may be a few days, since I'm out of town. Je connais les problêmes de langues puisque mon français est en train de diminuer aussi... :) ~SavageBOB sig.png 16:41, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
    • Why, thank you. I'm not in a hurry, I'll be busy myself—you know, exams and other such things. Anyway, you can check my progress on the article at any time. So you've learnt some amount of French. How come you did, if I may ask? --LelalMekha 17:00, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
      • I've taught English abroad in a few places, including Francophone West Africa. I learned there! :) ~SavageBOB sig.png 16:04, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
        • Good Lord! You mean I'm talking broken English in front of a teacher? ;-) I'm a French language teacher myself, even if I'm not... teaching currently. (Let us come back to the topic; I think I should stop working on the Charal article for now, because it's becoming, well, too long. The longer it gets without being checked, the more mistakes there will be.)--LelalMekha 16:13, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
        • Hey Savage. As you can see on my user page, I'll be on Wookievacation from now on and during the month of June due to the upcoming exam session. However, if you ever happen to review the Charal article and/or have questions about my edits, I'll still come and take a look now and then. Cheers. --LelalMekha 12:17, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
          • Thanks a lot, Savage. I'll have a look at your copy edit right now. :) (And thank you for your kind words too.) --LelalMekha 15:15, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

I see you included some notes when asking for explanations. These are mostly issues of vocabulary, I think, but they are important. Here we go, then:

  1. Fading black – Yes, it's an equestrian term. That means its color tends to turn a reddish brown because of the sweat and the sun. But it may be too specific to be used in the article... I have explained it in the BtS section of Charal's stallion, anyway.
  2. 'Only long enough to secure herself passage for freedom' – I mean that she didn't plan to stay with the Sanyassans forever. All she wanted was a ship with a capable crew, but she probably would have left them in due time. (That's what The Illustrated Star Wars Universe says.)
  3. Cohort vs. Consort – Some time ago, I did use 'consort'. But Oxford dictionaries define 'consort' as 'a wife, husband, or companion, in particular the spouse of a reigning monarch'. I don't really believe there was a romance or a marriage between Charal and Terak... Furthemore, Charal was described as 'the cohort of Terak, king of the Marauders' in A Guide to the Star Wars Universe, Second Edition.
  4. 'I will be pleased if you find my slave whom hasn't returned' – SW Galaxies, as you know, can't be played anymore, so I have to rely on second-hand sources. This was the spelling used in my sources (mainly SWG wiki).

I think the "consort" thing is important. I always wondered myslef if Terak and Charal were "king and queen" together or separately... --LelalMekha 15:40, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the clarifications! Yes, I wonder if "fading black" is too jargony for an article. You could keep it in there, but explain what it means briefly in an appositive phrase. After all, I'm all for teaching folks new words and phrases! :) I think my confusion over the "passage for freedom" bit is that it sounds like Charal wasn't already free when she was with the Marauders, and that she didn't already have passage with the Marauders. Would it be better to say something like, "only long enough to secure herself passage with a different vessel"? As for cohort vs. consort, I think you are right. The word implies a romantic or matrimonial relationship. I'm most familiar with the word cohort to mean a group of people, which is why I questioned the term, but I see that there is another definition that means something like minion or lackey colleague, companion, or associate. You might consider using synonyms for cohort at least once or twice, in case other readers have the same mental hiccup I did. Finally, if that's the quote from the game, there should be a [sic] added after whom, I think, since it's improper usage. Thanks for checking in, and good luck with the remainder of the article! ~SavageBOB sig.png 15:52, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Sanyassan full body picture Edit

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As I told you on the Sanyassan article talk page, good full body pics aree hard to come by in this move. It seems our best option would be using one of those concept art reused in the narrative of The Illustrated Star Wars Universe (and thus brought back into canon).

There is another option though, but I'm afraid we wouldn't be allowed to use it. While I was looking for more info on Charal in Star Wars Galaxies, I came across the webpage[1] of Jason Temujin Minor, who was Character Lead and eventually Art Director of Galaxies. If you look in his portfolio, you'll see 3D renders of Terak and two other random Sanyassans. But I suppose we wouldn't be allowed to use them, would we? --LelalMekha 14:46, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

  • Those are great renders! Unfortunately, you're right: we can't use them since they're not canon. They're more like BTS images I think. ~SavageBOB sig.png 16:04, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
    • That's what I was afraid you'd say. Anyway, I'll let you check in SW Chronicles as soon as you are at home again, and then we'll see what our options are.--LelalMekha 16:15, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
      • I should have access to Chronicles tomorrow evening. But in the meantime, do you have access to The Ring, the Witch, and the Crystal: An Ewok Adventure? There are some decent full-body shots of Sanyassans in that source that might be usable. ~SavageBOB sig.png 19:54, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
        • Yes, I do have a copy of it. I've uploaded one or two pics from that book lately. Any specific request in mind? --LelalMekha 20:32, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
          • Well, there is a full-body image of a Sanyassan leaning against a tree, and there are a couple of full-body pictures of Terak on his throne. Any of these might work for the infobox. What do you think? ~SavageBOB sig.png 21:41, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
            • I'll upload those you mentioned, and then we'll decide. I also happen to remember there was a black and white Marauder pic in The Essential Guide to Alien Species. --LelalMekha 21:54, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
            • There we are. The picture fishing was good as you can see (I didn't insert the pictures in your talk page, or I'd have turned it into a mess... But you can see them in the recently uploaded files). Now let's see what you think.--LelalMekha 22:53, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
              • Ah, you're right. There is an image in EGAS that might be perfect. It's not in color, but it's at least a full-body image. And I love the work of R. K. Post. :) In the meantime, I can't find the images you uploaded from the children's book. Can you link to them here? ~SavageBOB sig.png 14:56, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
                • Well, certainly. Here they are. The art is a bit naive, especially on the one with the Sanyassan reclining against a tree, but they work fine too, in their own way.
                  Sanyassan full body.png
                  Terak throne.png
                  --LelalMekha 15:03, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
                  • Yeah, I see what you mean. I uploaded File:Sanyassan (EGAS).jpg, but the version I have access to is not very good. I've started a Senate Hall thread to ask someone for a better scan. Also, I checked Star Wars: Chronicles, and there is an excellent image that would be perfect—if it were in-canon. The image is of one of the Sanyassan extras from Battle for Endor, but the caption leaves ambiguous whether the image is in-canon or not, since it speaks only about the "costume." The page seems to be absent from Amazon.com's searchable version of the book, so I'll see if I can scan it later. ~SavageBOB sig.png 16:29, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Edit

Hey, can you log into the imperial side for a bit please? I'll meet you there whenever. Thanks,—Tommy 9281 Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 14:08 UTC

  • Hey, sorry, Tommy. I'm out of town and have limited Internet access until tomorrow evening. Feel free to dash me an email if necessary, or I can try to meet you up tomorrow sometime. ~SavageBOB sig.png 18:15, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

It's coming!! Edit

Game Update 1.3: Allies has officially been announced - and Character Transfer is one of the components. I started a project forum topic here, so we can start to get our act together and decide on a home server when they release more info. But it's coming! Soon! *does happy dance* Cade Calrayn StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 22:55, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

Objections Edit

Barn-burner 4 Edit

I would just like to thank you for your participation in the barn-burner. So far only three article have been nominated, but we have ten more being nominated. If you have time, please stop over at the review pages and give the barn-burner articles a review. Since some people wanted the barn-burner to be in June, I was thinking that we should extend it through June to catch more nominations. If you have any comments please reply on the Barn-burner page. Thank you for your participation!--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings) 12:33, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

XLT-014 labor droid Edit

Hey Bob, mind checking out your objections to XLT-014 labor droid? Much appreciated! 1358 (Talk) 18:02, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

  • Whoops! Revisited. Thanks for the reminder. ~SavageBOB sig.png 18:47, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

Speak like a Sith Edit

I was so excited when I saw this article I absolutely needed to tell someone. ^^ I'm such a language nerd, you see, and I've been waiting for this for a long time. I'll be working on the "Sith language article" in my spare time. --LelalMekha 15:54, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

  • I know! It's really nice when the Insider publishes something like this since the magazine has mostly become an ode to the Clone Wars cartoons in the last few years. I'm not so much a Sith fan, but I'll keep an eye on your expansion of the Sith language article. It should be a fun one to expand. :) ~SavageBOB sig.png 15:59, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
    • One of my regrets was that Star Wars didn't have properly developped conlangs, unlike STar Trek. Well, there's Mandalorian of course, but I think it's a bit too specific as a language.--LelalMekha 16:02, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Sourcing Edit

Hey Bob, Ecks has built us a new version of TORCite on User:Xd1358/test. I think it looks great—should we put it to a vote or just announce that we're updating it? I looked at the "what links here" for TORCite currently, and it's under 500 pages. Changing that many's... doable, I think. Cade Calrayn StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 22:28, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

  • Hmm. Generally, I think it's fine to update a template if it's being improved. Just to be safe, maybe announce on a Forum page that you'll be implementing the new version in 24 or 48 hours just as a courtesy? And will the new template break the old one if those 500 articles aren't updated immediately? ~SavageBOB sig.png 22:55, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
    • Okay, Trayus suggested that I create it at TORcite instead of TORCite, since templates are case sensitive, and I've done so: Template:TORcite. I'm starting to make my way through those articles using the old template and updating them, so we'll be able to delete the old one eventually to prevent confusion. As for a forum announcement... I'm not the best at those. Where would I do it, to start with? Our project forums or a full-fledged SH topic? Cade Calrayn StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 23:16, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
      • Cool! Yeah, I meant the WookieeProject's forums. ~SavageBOB sig.png 23:33, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Palejo Reshad Edit

Hello Bob, does Behind the Magic have pictures and/or fully mention Palejo Reshad? I believe it was made after his CCG card, so similarly to others, it could actually have a brief bio of him. Thanks in advance. Hanzo Hasashi 01:29, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

  • Oh and you also have both Annotated Screenplays and Art of Star Wars, would the scripts in either of those indirectly mention Bob Hudsol (one of the other Rebel Commanders with Leia and Jan Dodonna in the control room during the Yavin battle, and also seen standing behind her at the ending ceremony)? Hanzo Hasashi 01:41, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

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