EC meeting time changeEdit
Hi there, I noticed that you reverted my revamp of the Ackbar page for using information from the Legends article. I thought the problems only stemmed from when they were directly copy-pasted from one article to the next without revision. Doctor Kermit(Complain.) 04:03, July 5, 2014 (UTC)
7.1 New message Edit
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Beach day, aka EduCorps meeting 13 Edit
The 13th, luckiest and hottest, EduCorps meeting will be on August 30, at 7 pm in the waterfront EC IRC channel. Grab the sunscreen! Corellian PremierThe Force will be with you always 22:07, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
Re: IRC Edit
- But I am. Ask away! :-) --Lelal Mekha (Audience Room) 13:46, July 30, 2014 (UTC)
Interview answers Edit
Here are my answers to the WOTM interview. As you know, I'm no native speaker of English, so I probably made many mistakes. Please feel free to fix them. :-)
1. How does it feel to be Wookieepedian of the Month for the second time?
File:Lake Retreat Interior.jpg (because I'm part of the furtniture now)
Well, I guess that means I am now part of the furniture! The first time I was elected made me blush like a very manly schoolgirl, but now I suppose I'm merely nodding in contentment. That doesn't mean, of course, that I don't feel honored anymore. However, I presume that now, I am a well-installed Wookieepedian—dare I say a prominent one? (On the Jedi Council message boards, someone actually called me "a prominent Wookieepedian" once. God knows whether that was a compliment or an insult, but I'll still take it with pride.) Once again, I'd like to thank all those who were urbane enough to vote for me a second time—even though the only other nominee was a bot.;-)
2. How did you feel when you found out you were nominated?
Why, very happy of course! And a bit surprised too. My activity on the Wook, although quite regular, is a bit bulimic in nature too; I sometimes have "fits" of editing, but I wouldn't refer to myself as a hard worker—some of you were kind enough to do it, though.
3. Tell us a bit about your time here over the years.
Well, there have been quite a few controversies down here. Truth to be told, I can't say I always agreed with the people in charge when they took their stand on such infamous matters as the so-called "breast controversy." (Having the article is fine, but using it as an April Fools' Joke was more debatable.) However, I always endorsed every single community decision, although I may have groused about it from time to time—such are de ways of democracy, are they not? But in the end of the day, my editing around here has remained centered on having fun, which is why I always stuck with the Wook and my fellow 'pedians. I have met a few excellent Wookieepartners too. This is a contributive project, which means you have to work with others rather than all by yourself. And you can believe me, I normally am not the socioconstructivist type at all!;-)
4. What is the Star Wars community like in Belgium?
I'll try not to repeat myself there, since I already answered a similar question in my first interview. As I said, the Belgian Star Wars community is quite abundant, especially if you know how small the country is. There are no less than three distinct 501st groups, which is huge when you know there are only 10 millions people in Belgium! (Truth to be told, there used to be only one 501st garrison back in the days, but petty politics just got in the way, as it happens all the time in my country.) I had the recent pleasure to befriend my fellow countryman Tim Veekhoven (a.k.a. Soompeetalay), who co-wrote a few Rogue Galleries in the Insider magazine and is now a contributor to the official website. I've also joined the administators of the Star Wars Sourcebooks Facebook group, most of whom wrote in the Rogue Gallery department .
5. Got any advice for those who wish to start editing?
Let me repeat my piece of advice from the first interview: edit on things you like, not on things you feel are 'important.' It's all fiction anyway, so you might as well have fun. I mean, that's what we're all here for, right? Now, since life is not all merrymaking, I strongly advise any newcomer to consult the Layout Guide and the Attribution Policy carefully. Yes, Wookieepedia has loads of rules, but I think those mere two pages contain the remedies to many of the mistakes a newbie can make.
6. If you could change one thing about the site, what would it be? Tough question, Sir. The problem is, we aim to remain an encyclopedia, which pretty much prevents us from adding any of those pretty, social network-ish features Wikia always comes up with. Of course, the Wook is still perfectible, but I'm not much of an innovator. I'm not a sheep either, mind you. Yet I presume there are many other possibilities, don't you think? Guess I must be better at giving my opinion once somebody else comes up with a new idea...
7. What role do you feel Wookieepedia plays in the greater Star Wars continuity?
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A few years ago, I would have answered Wookieepedia could become the Al-Azhar University of Star Wars lore. (This wonderful metaphor is curtesy of Master Abel Peña, no less.) Nowadays, however, I'm not sure what to think anymore. We've been explicitely told that we should not care about canon and continuity, which certainly casts doubt over the usefulness of our project. While I don't intend to quit, I suppose things will be different from now on. Now that I think of it, it's a great opportunity to do more activities in real-life! In a way, the Disney buyout is curing the geek out of me. ;-) While I still think we can be that university of Star Wars lore, that lore clearly has changed.
8. Back in your first WOTM interview, you predicted that the EU would be rebooted. How did you feel when you found out you were correct?
Many people called be a doomsayer at the time. But, well, in the end, I did bloody tell you. (Pardon my French.) Obviously, I wasn't surprised at all, which is in fact terribly disappointing. I was hoping LFL and Disney would prove me wrong. What bothered me much more was the way certain officials (such as Pablo Hidalgo and Shelly Shapiro) derided us out for caring about canon. We care about it because that canon system was really unique; there are very few franchises in which authors try to maintain a unified and coherent world, and this gave Star Wars a special feel. I can understand that continuity should not prevent a good story to happen, but I think this is a false dilemma. You actually can have it both ways, and I'm not sure why we seem to be the only ones who realize it.
9. Any words of wisdom or random thoughts?
I've never considered myself wise, but I certainly act random at times. For that reason, I'm just going to quote the British philosophers Lennon and McCartney: "When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me, speaking the words of wisdom: "Let it be." (Let's all admit it, I just cleverly avoided answering the question there.)
10. How did you first discover Wookieepedia, and what made you want to edit here?
The tale of how I discovered the Wook got lost in the mists of time, I'm afraid. Now that I look at my contributions' logs, I can see that my first edit was a question on Queen Jamillia's talk page. That was an unsigned, very badly spelled question. I wanted to know why the article did not mention the queen's South-West Naboo accent. Nobody ever answered it. Looks like I kept asking that kind of questions on article talk pages, and my first "real" edit came a year later, when I started working modestly on the "raven" article—you can see I was already fond of those much-maligned real-life articles. Truth to be told, I can't say there was a great or important motive behind my joining Wookieepedia. I used to be a huge Star Wars fan even back then, so I thought to myself: "Why not?" And there I still am, 8 years later. I guess you can call it a case of Stockholm syndrome.;-)
11. What are some of your favorite EU works?
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The more I delve into it, the more I appreciate the worldbuilding parts of the West End Games era. Even the later Wizards of the Coast installement couldn't hold the candle to it. Zahn is often credited as the father of the Expanded Universe, but he himself had been asked to coordinate Heir to the Empire with the existing WEG material. Although he complied begrungedly at first, he ended up remarking that the WEG team "had put together a boatload of really awesome stuff"—in his own words. Similarly, my fondness of the original Star Wars run by Marvel never cease to increase. It's obvious that comic authors of the time had lot of fun while writing those, although it did not prevent many Marvel adventures to be loaded with pathos and introduce interesting new worlds or characters. In my opinion, current-day Marvel comics will have to work hard in order to fill... their own shoes!
he moved my comment, I am putting it back where it belongs. This isnt how commenting on any wiki works you cant just move other peoples comments around to give your own priority. ralok (talk) 06:00, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
also "Please stop moving Prague's comment on the Ancient droid forum. He responded to that one comment in particular, therefore his reply goes directly beneath it" so was my comment, and I put mine there first... go back and read what I wrote, I specifically addressed what he said about human slaves. ralok (talk) 06:03, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
if that is how it works, I am still in the right because... now this may confuse you... I will say it again. MY COMMENT WAS A SPECIFIC REPLY TO THAT COMMENT AS WELL. ralok (talk) 06:04, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
Why can't I edit my own profile...? Seriously. It's annoying.
Re: WotM Interview Edit
Thank you! Yes, I'd be happy to do an interview. Just go ahead and send me the questions / whatever needs to be done, and I'll send you the answers back ASAP. ProfessorTofty (talk) 03:25, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, looking forward to them. Picture-- do you mean a picture of me? Well, Wikia did a photo of me with many of their staff when I visited headquarters a while back; you could use that. It's here. ProfessorTofty (talk) 13:25, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
Interview Answers Edit
- I wouldn't say that I really got hyper or anything, my usual style even in response to exciting news is somewhat laid-back. But I smiled and was happy for the nomination, though perhaps a bit surprised since it's only been relatively recently that I started doing a lot of work around here.
- Probably watching the films. I really can't say for absolutely sure. I wasn't born yet when either the original Star Wars or The Empire Strikes Back came out and wasn't even one when Return of the Jedi hit theatres, so you can be sure I wasn't watching much except the walls of a crib. So I watched the original films on video at some point, though darned if I could say when. And I'm a big reader, so eventually I started reading the books.
- I've been a long time user of Wikia under this username and an old one, so I'm sure when I wanted information about Star Wars, I just went to look here like I would look for information on any other wiki.
- I wasn't really all that rattled by it, because I think a lot of us had been expecting something like that for a long time, ever since Episode VII was announced. Sure, like everyone else, there are certain things I enjoyed from the Expanded Universe that I will miss as being part of canon. But I was also very exciting in reading about some of the things that they were planning, like an entire novel by James Luceno about Tarkin and hiring top children's authors like Adam Gidwitz and Tom Angleberger to do novelizations of the original trilogy. In fact, I'm a holding a copy of one the new books, The Adventures of Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight, the picture book of the original trilogy by Tony DiTerlizzi, with Ralph McQuarrie's original concept artwork, just out today, right now.
Using what was already in place as canon going forward would never have worked. Besides the fact that they needed the freedom for an original story on the new films, it was just too much of a mess, a tangled web of contradictions. To name just one example-- I'm a big fan of Matthew Stover's novelization of Revenge of the Sith; it's easily my favorite of the Legends novelizations. But even just many of the little things now contradict with the canon that have followed. For example, when Anakin and Obi-Wan are fighting Dooku, Sidious yells "Get help! You're no match for a Sith Lord!" and Anakin shoots back, "Tell that to the one Obi-Wan left in pieces on Naboo!" But, of course, why would Anakin make such a comment when he knows perfectly well that Darth Maul is around and kicking, and why would he expect such a comment to have an impact on Dooku when he knows that he knows this too? And then there's the whole mess with the clones-- we know now that they had inhibitor chips, but you've got other media depicting them as acting independently even after Order 66.
I think most of us have certain things that we didn't really like about some stuff in the Expanded Universe, but maybe some don't want to admit it. Maybe you're happy now that Chewbacca lives, or you're glad to show something like The Glove of Darth Vader the door. I don't really go in for that term, "NuCanon." There's canon and there's Legends. They were fine stories, many of them, but they're only part of the main Star Wars unvierse now to the degree that any writer might choose to draw upon them for the new works.
- Well, I wouldn't say I really started there. I've been working on here a bit more piecemeal for a quite a while before they started with that. But I do it because it needs to be done and I'm perfectly happy to, and also because I happen to like a lot of the new material that's coming out. You'll also see me though editing, funnily enough, some things that are about as far away from canon as you can get-- non-canon Legends like stuff from Jeffrey Brown's Jedi Academy books, or LEGO Star Wars.
- I used to be really big on the Harry Potter Wiki, and I still technically have admin status there, but I haven't really done anything lately. I also built the Eternal Sonata Wiki pretty much from the ground up-- almost all of the enemy pages there are my work, and I also fleshed out a lot of the character and location info. For those that don't know, which I suppose is probably most since Eternal Sonata is somewhat obscure at this point, Eternal Sonata is a PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 game with an unusual concept: the main character is the famous piano composer Frederic Chopin. You play him and other characters in a traditional Japanese RPG as they venture through a world that's happening as a dream of sorts inside his head as he's dying. The game came out only just right around when the PlayStation 3 was coming out, so it doesn't have Trophies, but I still recommend that version because it has a lot more content and the story was expanded to make better sense and provide more depth to the characters.
Other than that, I was also big on Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki for a while, and I've worked on the Final Fantasy Wiki as well.
- I think we're a resource that helps people when they want to know more about what happened in Star Wars and also to connect to information about what new things and products are happening with it. I know those that work on it often access our information, so if it helps to make the stuff that's coming out even better, that's great.
- Those that are starting editing should take some time to look around and get to know the site. Read over a few of our articles, both canon and Legends. Have a spin around the forums, take a look at some of the code in the articles to see how things are done. At least skim over the policies so that you have an idea of basic expectations, and if something is bold or otherwise highlighted to draw attention, then you should read it. Once you think you have a handle on things, go ahead and give it a try. Use the preview to make sure what you're doing is looking okay and then if after it goes through you still don't like it, you can always undo it. If you get a message from someone that there's a problem with the edit, then make sure to follow their advice, so that you can do it right in the future.
- Maybe we could at least try some of the new features sometimes. We don't have to be entirely static, but we could be if we just leave everything the way it is without examining if something might be nice to have. For example, if done right, it might be nice to have some videos around here, though last I knew of, that feature still had a lot of issues.
- I think I've already mentioned, but I'm very big on the novelization of Revenge of the Sith. I also really enjoyed Drew Karpyshyn's Darth Bane novels. I'm pretty big also on some of Ryder Windham's compilation novels describing the lives of individual characters, like The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi. And I like The Clone Wars as a whole; once I started watching I really got into it and I think there was a lot of great character development and exciting action. I'd also say the book I mentioned earlier, The Adventures of Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight, is a new favorite.
- Unless somebody beats me to the punch, I'm probably going to overhaul the canon Anakin Skywalker article sometime very soon. I'm also planning to flesh out the Roan Novachez article, though that may take a little longer as I'm not entirely satisfied with what I've written for that at the moment. Other than that, likely adding apperances and info for some otf the new material that's just come out, like The Adventures of Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight and A New Dawn.
- I'm trying to help us keep to our goal of being the best Star Wars information resource out there by providing good information that will help people learn about the franchise. I hope it'll make for interesting reading and help those who want to know more about it, whether "it" is the new continuity that's out now, the Legends stuff, or something that just lets people have some fun, like the LEGO Star Wars or Vader's Little Princess.
EduCorps Meeting 15Edit
Jeffrey Brow interviewEdit
Hi, Supreme! I was wondering if you could go ahead and post a copy of the interview I did with Jeffrey Brown on the Wordpress? I got his permission for it to be posted there as well, along with Fanpedia. I would also like to forward you a copy of the original e-mail, though I'll need your e-mail address, or you can e-mail me first at ProfessorTofty at gmail.com and we can do it that way. ProfessorTofty (talk) 05:15, November 1, 2014 (UTC)