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While your edit is appreciated, the page you just edited currently has a template called {{Inuse}} at the top. This template means that someone is currently working on improving the article, and to avoid edit conflicts, no one other than the placer of the template should edit the page while the message is visible. Thank you for your cooperation. —TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 14:37, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't notice that. My bad! ZeroSD 05:26, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Sith Council Edit

Zero, The only "Sith Council" on that page is the original one - the One Sith and Revan's Empire sections even explicitly state that there aren't councils for them, and the Dark Council and Lost Tribe councils are already covered in their own articles. The only one that deserves an article is the Brotherhood of Darkness council, which I have just made here. Cade Calrayn StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit 16:01, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

Good on making the other, but the new one doesn't have a lot of info that the general one had before you altered it, and the old one had some info on sith councils in general. Splitting them up is fine, it's more your order of approach I take issue with. And personally, my approach would've been to make an article called Sith Council (Old Sith Empire), the re-naming of which still needs to be done if that case. and then have the plain Sith Council be a page that references the multiple ones like the Kaan one. Which come to think of it, seems like the thing to do. I'm going to make a Sith Council (Old Sith Empire) page, and then we can start taking info off the main one. Sound good? ZeroSD (talk) 09:48, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
My point is that there's no reason for the article to have information on "Sith Councils in general". They aren't related, and there's no reason to have a "Sith Council (Old Sith Empire)" page when Sith Council is a conjectural title for the Brotherhood of Darkness. There's no reason to have the kind of bloated disambiguation page that you're angling to keep at the moment. Cade StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 14:42, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

One Sith listEdit

The decision of the CT was actually not to add lists to articles, as it looks better as prose. You can add the information in as prose, as that is how it should be in the article, but a list is a no go. There's nothing against adding the information in, as long as it is written out in prose. Trip391 (talk) 04:03, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

  • Sixteen out of eighteen votes were in favor of this, by the way. The prose would greatly expand the article, which is what many of those who voted have said. Adding in a list simply because you don't want to look in a category is unacceptable. Trip391 (talk) 04:09, June 17, 2015 (UTC)
    • The decision was not to add lists in favor of prose when possible (which is the case with the One Sith page), actually, not just add a list in because you don't want to click on a category. You can add a prose section in for the One Sith on the article, just make sure you go through the sources to verify that every Sith you mention in those paragraphs is indeed One Sith. I don't know why you can't see the previous revision with the list anymore, but one revision can be found here, and you can view this previous revision (with a list) to get an idea of who could be included in the prose sections, and go from there to search through the sources when writing the paragraphs detailing the make-up/members of the One Sith. If you don't want to have to view the previous revision each time, you can also simply copy the text for the page, and work on the prose sections for it in a personal workspace called something like "User:ZeroSD/One Sith", for example, just make sure there aren't any categories on this workspace page. Trip391 (talk) 04:00, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
      • The categories on One Sith are almost useless for gathering the information in question, and things were *very* explicit that Lists are not banned from articles and should not be summarily tossed out- which is what you're doing, you are not replacing it with prose, you are summarily deleting it. Stop acting like your opinion is the rule when that is almost the opposite of the Consensus Track result, which explicitly allowed for lists when a better prose is not present- which, at the present time, there is not. As soon as you put a prose in it's place, then you'd have a point. As now, you're just messing with a page on your own initiative and nothing to do with any policy.ZeroSD (talk) 18:40, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
        • There was no list in the article until you kept adding it, so no one is outright removing it. And the dislike of lists is actually the opinion a majority of the site, not just me, which is why more people responded against outright adding lists to articles, but acknowledged that sometimes lists serve a purpose. This was referring to constructive lists like the list of planets article, not simply a list of every member of the One Sith because someone doesn't want to look at a category. You can write it out in prose, and I've given you two tips on how since you said you can't see the list somehow. If you had instead just written it out in prose, and sourced it of course, it would be perfectly fine. Trip391 (talk) 19:36, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Warning Edit

Please take note of the three-revert rule, per which it is a blockable offense to revert another user's edits on the same page within twenty-four hours. Though the policy does not yet apply in the edit war with One Sith, it will come into effect if you and Trip continue to revert each other's edits. I would strongly advise that you take some time to discuss a solution with Trip. As a suggestion, it would be worth spending some time to compose a prose-based section for the One Sith members, so that the list can be removed in accordance with site policy. Your cooperation is appreciated. CC7567 (talk) 03:35, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, and I have posts on Trip's wall. It's one where I currently don't have an idea on how to do it in prose, but the information really isn't accessible without a list and it'd be harder to write a prose version without the info. ZeroSD (talk) 00:03, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

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