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Ello Asty

(2 ACs/7 Users/9 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 16:35, August 29, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Nice work, though I'm worried that, since he's confirmed to be mentioned in upcoming sources, the article may need an update. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 18:00, August 29, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Great stuff! Lewisr (talk) 01:17, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
  4. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 16:01, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
  5. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:01, September 3, 2016 (UTC)
  6. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 01:39, September 14, 2016 (UTC)
  7. The Brave Goldfish (talk) 15:01, October 19, 2016 (EET)
  8. Great work! TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 04:05, May 31, 2017 (UTC)
  9. ProfessorTofty (talk) 18:55, June 5, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Imperators II
AV

Previews from the upcoming book Star Wars: Poe Dameron: Flight Log have clarified that Asty is from Abednedo; this will need to be added to the article. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 16:19, August 27, 2016 (UTC)

Cevan
  • Asty's final words shouldn't be under the 'New Republic service' section. Assuming you still want to include that quote in the article, have it moved to the appropriate section, and, if possible, try to get a quote from Bloodline that's relevant to Asty. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 16:28, August 27, 2016 (UTC)
  • Is there any chance of getting another image somewhere in the article? Perhaps a behind the scenes image, or a full-body shot of Asty in his flightsuit (such as the one featured in the Abednedo article. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 00:25, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
Ayrehead
Floyd
Toprawa
  1. Some basic formatting issues:
    • I would strongly recommend going no further than two or three cascading bullets deep in the infobox's Affiliations field. Wikia skin's very narrow margins make the article's current presentation look terrible. I'd suggest toggling back and forth between skin views to see what I mean. Just stick to his most critical affiliations. Things like "Resistance military" are entirely unimportant here.
    • The Biography has more than enough space to be subsectioned, which will allow you to use more quotes and images if available. More to the point, this will set you up to use some image in the Bio, which is more important than sticking an image in the P/T if you have to choose between them.
      • Well, the bio did have a couple short sections. I was asked above to remove them and just have one bio section. You still think I should re-add them? Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:28, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
        • I didn't realize another reviewer made this objection. I can talk to him if need be, but yes, I absolutely think you should reintroduce subsectioning. Five paragraphs is a relatively long Bio as far as GAs ago. Anytime a GA goes past three, I typically recommend it. I suspect this is also a case where Wikia skin plays a factor, since formatting between skins can be so radically different. If you toggle to that skin, you'll immediately see the need to divide this section. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:37, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
    • Once the preceding objection is handled, the article will most likely be more aesthetically prepared for a minor expansion to the intro. Two sentences is pretty short for a Bio so long. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:04, September 27, 2016 (UTC)
      • Sounds good, thanks. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:28, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
        • You should do more to expand the intro. The focus isn't so much how many sentences there are as how many lines of text there are, which is a variable factor depending on the infobox, images, etc. In this case, two or three more lines of text in the intro would do good to complement the Bio aesthetically. The "eye test" applies here. Again, this is all with regards to using Wikia skin. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:37, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
          • Ok, added a couple more sentences.

Comments

Cevan
  • I'm not going to add this is an objection since you aren't guaranteed a response, but you may want to try and contact Pablo Hidalgo or someone else who works at Lucasfilm and may know the answer on Twitter as to why Asty's callsign is Red Six, but he's said to be part of Blue Squadron. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 16:02, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • I already did, and was ignored. :( Maybe @WookOfficial could try? Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 16:09, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
      • If that works, I have a list of unanswered questions for @WookOfficial. :P - AV-6R7Crew Pit 16:21, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
        • I don't like to bother creators with continuity questions on the Wookieepedia Twitter, so I'd rather not tweet the question. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:57, September 2, 2016 (UTC)
  • Okay, just to be sure before I make the edits: Poe's Flight Log puts Ello in Red Squad. Since this is the most recent source, ok to overwrite the other sources which put him in Blue Squad? Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 21:26, December 3, 2016 (UTC)
  • Made a slight edit to the article, please take a look. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 04:05, May 31, 2017 (UTC)


Hobin Carsamba

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:57, September 18, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: A brief break from Leia before I get round to finishing Junn.

(2 ACs/2 Users/4 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote I put the video game under the Non-canon appearances subsection per the new addition to WP:LG. Imperators II(Talk) 11:53, September 18, 2016 (UTC)
  2. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 23:43, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 17:48, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
  4. In the absence of a response from Toprawa, I'm voting in favor. - Pyke syndicate AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:21, February 7, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Floyd
  • This is one case where I don't think the Bio needs to be subsectioned. You've only got a few really short paragraphs. IFYLOFD (Talk) 23:18, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
    • It still looks a little chunky in Wikia skin, but removed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:29, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • We implemented GAN Rule 14 to make sure we never have another image like the one currently found in this article's infobox. I realize it's being cropped down, but there's no reason why it can't be much higher resolution, especially now that we have home-video access to the film. In addition, we recently passed a new image policy requiring images to be a minimum of 400px when possible. This image can certainly meet that standard, though it does not currently. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:11, September 28, 2016 (UTC)
    • Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:27, September 28, 2016 (UTC)
      • The body image, too, naturally. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:57, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
        • Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 17:41, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
          • Is that the best we can get for the Bio image? It looks really blurry. If you're altering it in any way besides just cropping, such as zooming in, don't, because it makes it look bad. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:13, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
            • Without zooming the previous version was the best I could get it to look, although I'll admit I'm no expert at these things. Which is preferable? Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:36, October 9, 2016 (UTC)

Comments

Ice

  • Nominated by:Sol PacificusFirestorm 15:25, October 18, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I looked to the featured article Deadeye Duncan for some guidance. I found that article to have more detail than I expected. It was from that article's example that I explained a bit more about the Attack on the Endar Spire that led to the Sith quarantine, but I fear that this isn't relevant enough to Ice's story or her perspective to be explained. One other concern I have is the note in the BtS about how her hair is brown in the Xbox version. I have the Xbox strategy guide where the pictures show her with a head like that of Iceman.

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Support

  1. Probably best if you remove the part about Bastila, and merely include the information about the occupation and the blockade. Other than that, all good.--Jace Onasi (talk) 09:55, November 29, 2016 (UTC)
    • Done :). Thank you for reviewing it by the way. This has been up here forever. >_< Sol PacificusFirestorm 17:02, November 29, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Good work! Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:27, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Very well done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 19:00, February 24, 2017 (UTC)
  4. ACvote I enjoyed reading this. Imperators II(Talk) 18:01, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Cevan
  • Just to verify, it's actually stated that Ice is from Taris, correct? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 15:44, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • It may be wise to establish that Revan was an amnesiac Sith earlier on, at his first mention. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 15:44, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • Done. I have look at past GA reviews for some other KotOR character articles where people have said that that information isn't relevant enough to be included in the first place. I'm guessing we don't have a standardized practice for it? Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:50, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
      • Now that you mention it, you could probably leave out that bit of info. Knowing that Revan is a former Sith isn't really necessary to understanding anything spoken of in this article. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 23:09, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • The behind the scenes section will need some tweaking since KOTOR isn't canon. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 15:44, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • You mean not canon to Canon right? I removed the mention that she's canonical, but I didn't mention she's from Legends, not sure if it's necessary. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:50, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
      • If you want to add in that she is a Legends character/KOTOR is a Legends game it wouldn't hurt anything, though I'm not certain if that's necessary—clarifying that may make it a little easier for this next part, however. For the second paragraph of the bts section, about the dark side ending, you may want to rephrase that slightly to make it clear that the "non-canonical" bit refers it being non-canon in the Legends coninuitiy or something to that effect. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 23:09, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
        • Do you think that is necessary given that there is already that tag at the top of the article identifying it as a Legends article? It seems a bit awkward to say "In the dark side outcome that is non-canonical in the Legends continuity" (which seems to suggest that it is canonical in Canon continuity even if it is obvious to us that doesn't make sense). Actually we might want to double-check if we're ever supposed to refer to Canon vs. Legends in articles at all. Sol PacificusFirestorm 07:42, December 2, 2016 (UTC)
          • I've gone ahead and reword the second paragraph in the behind the scenes section a little. You can take a look and see what you think. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 13:57, December 2, 2016 (UTC)
            • I just edited it. I removed the additional line specifying that it's unclear if Revan "canonically" participated in the dueling ring. I think since it has already been noted that we are only assuming 100% completion in the body paragraph, this makes this line in the BtS to be unnecessary, maybe even redundant. It would also cause confusion to have "canonical" in quotation marks. I think we might check up on others later whether it is fine to use the word canon within the Legends continuity. Really, the main reason why I removed the line though is because in light of all these complications, I suppose at the end of the day, we don't really have to say whether it was canonical or not? I did add that the player earns dark side points for it, and I had originally intended to edit the line to say that we are assuming 100% light side choices so that we treat it as non-canonical, but then I recalled that our assumption is only for convenience's sake when writing the body paragraph. It is canon (in Legends) that Revan had the light-side ending, but he might have made a dark side choice here and there along the way, and that's really my main mistake with calling it non-canonical. Anyways, let me know what you think. Sol PacificusFirestorm 01:23, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
              • Looks all right to me. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:27, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
Couple things…
  • This article should assume 100% game completion unless stated elsewhere. Please change the article intro to reflect this. It doesn't have to be long, just enough to note that Revan defeated her in the dueling ring.
    • Not sure if I'm allowed to disagree with objections, but I was always under the impression that assumption of 100% completion was only for the convenience of comprehensiveness in the article but not treated as a declaration of what is canonical. This, and the fact that the tag is necessary to clarify this, led me to believe that the introduction should omit extra details that comes with 100% completion because there's no tag that is applied in the introduction or the header for this purpose. Instead, the tag is after all applied in the body paragraph where such details arise. Can we be sure that the community is consistent on this? Sol PacificusFirestorm 19:33, February 17, 2017 (UTC)
    • Wait... did I misread, were you not talking about the introduction? Because the body paragraph already specifies that Revan defeated her in the dueling ring. "After beating Deadeye Duncan and Gerlon Two-Fingers, he fought Ice and emerged victorious, winning 300 credits." Sol PacificusFirestorm 19:36, February 17, 2017 (UTC)
      • The way we used to do it when I was more active before was that we put a brief summary of everything in the intro.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:23, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
        • That's not what I'm asking. I'm asking if that information should be included under the notion of "brief summary of everything" considering that it's not content that has been verified to be canonical. We assume 100% game completion for the ease and convenience of article writing—and add a template message clarifying this where the information arises in the body paragraph, but if we include that information in the introduction itself, without a header template specifying that we're assuming 100% game completion, we're essentially presenting it as 100% verified canon. It also diminishes the point of the "Game mechanics" tag in the body paragraph since we don't feel the need to clarify this when it appears at the introduction itself anyways. I have changed it as asked though, but I'm checking this up with the IRC. Sol PacificusFirestorm 19:45, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
          • Please do that, and adjust if I'm incorrect. All I'm going by is the way we used to do it before.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 19:56, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
            • I have done as you asked nonetheless. Is it sufficient for you to cross this out? Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:50, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
              • Thank you. My apologies for not getting back to this sooner.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 18:59, February 24, 2017 (UTC)
  • Linking in the quotations isn't necessary unless the subjects in quotation are not mentioned elsewhere in the article.
  • Is Bendak Starkiller's true identity relevant to Ice herself? If so, please provide the proper source for his identity of Gorse Bendak, which is the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide. If not, you should omit any mention of Gorse from the article.
    • Out of curiosity, did you mean to ask if Bendak Starkiller should have been referred to by his alias rather than his real name instead? Or were you asking if his character is relevant to her character? Anyways, I cited the campaign guide as asked. Sol PacificusFirestorm 19:33, February 17, 2017 (UTC)
      • I'm saying Gorse Bendak's past isn't really relevant to Ice herself. Of course, Bendak is relevant, but it's ok to just refer to him by his stage name here, imo.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:33, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  • Otherwise, very well written. Take care of these and you've my support.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 16:36, February 17, 2017 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • The sentence sourced to CSWE should be paraphrased a bit, otherwise it's almost copied verbatim.
    • Unfortunately, I actually do not have the CSWE. Pardon me, but I seem to have completely neglected that point when I nominated this article. :-/ I suppose the best I can do is to work with what you tell me from that book. For this line in question, do you think it would be better if I just remove it and incorporate the detail of her hiding her blast in her clothing into the "Equipment" section? The bit about her having earned a "devious reputation" I think is in all intents and purposes already covered and otherwise is just flowery language from the book.
      • The "devious reputation" bit is OK to keep, since I don't really see where else in the article that is covered. The part about the hidden blaster could go under Equipment, but since it already mentions her blaster and her armor, maybe it should better go under a new "Skills and abilities" section, where you could also mention that she was considered a confident and steady fighter by Marl.
        • Done. I have it under Equipment only though. I'm really short on time, so if you want it to go under a "Skill and abilities" instead, I'll have to do that another time. Sol PacificusFirestorm 19:35, May 9, 2017 (UTC)
          • Whoa, whoa, a sword? Are you referring to the vibroblade there? Maybe it's a vibrosword, then? And now you've added info to the Equipment section that I think would definitely be better under Skills and abilities, along with the stuff I mentioned earlier. Imperators II(Talk) 06:52, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
            • I kind of wondered while writing that if you would bring this up, but I would argue that a vibroblade in the series most certainly is long enough to be a sword, being the length of a normal short sword in real-life, with vibroswords being the length of historical long swords. In fact, vibroblades are the exact length of "short swords" in the game and are essentially the "vibro" versions of them, with vibroswords corresponding to the long swords. Sol PacificusFirestorm 07:19, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
  • Hmm... the CSWE entry has some more stuff:
    • The entry refers to Ice as a "gladiator fighter". Do you think you could incorporate this in the article, as well as adding Category:Gladiators?
    • It also specifically says Ice, along with other fighters, were chosen by Ajuur to compete in the dueling ring.
      • Since I don't have the CSWE, I'm not clear on the exact context of that, but I noted that she was personally recruited by Ajuur, which I believe means the same thing? Sol PacificusFirestorm 05:12, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
        • I don't think that technically "to choose" and "to personally recruit" mean the same thing.
          • Well do you have the book? Can you give me the exact quote? Sol PacificusFirestorm 21:09, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
            • The entry has just these two sentences: "One of the many gladiator fighters chosen by Ajuur the Hutt to compete in his events on Taris during the Great Sith War. Known as a devious fighter, she often hid a blaster inside her clothing in case a bout got out of hand." Imperators II(Talk) 09:32, April 28, 2017 (UTC)
    • The entry, most probably mistakenly, says Ice participated in the fights during the Great Sith War. You could add this to the BTS.
      • I haven't done this yet. Because I don't have the source, I wasn't sure if you meant the entry notes she fought in the Great Sith War, or she participated in fights of the duel ring while the Great Sith War was ongoing. Also, do you think we should say outright that this is an error or that it is most likely an error? Sol PacificusFirestorm 05:12, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
        • Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide describes Starkiller's history where he becomes a gladiator after Revan defeats the Mandalorians. Since Ice became a gladiator sometime after that, the CSWE entry must be in error. Imperators II(Talk) 09:32, April 28, 2017 (UTC)
          • Done, but I noted instead that it is likely erroneous because the Great Sith War took place decades before the Jedi Civil War where she is still a young woman. The reason why I didn't mention the reasoning behind Starkiller's history is because that is known to contradict directly with KotOR's own account of Starkiller's history. In KotOR, the death matches were banned around 3966 BBY, meaning Bendak had already spent years garnering his reputation as a gladiator on Taris before that. In the campaign guide, he is said to have been a miner on Vanquo before the Battle of Vanquo in 3964 BBY, and only became a gladiator after the Mandalorian Wars. While the campaign guide, being the newer source, might override KotOR's account, since this is such a major contradiction that was never addressed, I think it's better to avoid mentioning it. Sol PacificusFirestorm 19:35, May 9, 2017 (UTC)
  • Context for Endar Spire needed.
  • Release date for KOTOR should be added.
    • Done. 05:12, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
  • Is there a quote on Ice's introspection about Starkiller's death that could be used for BTS? Imperators II(Talk) 09:10, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
    • Great idea actually, done. Let me know if you think it should be trimmed though, and I wasn't entirely sure of the best way to describe the context of her delivering the quote. Sol PacificusFirestorm 05:12, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • I think I should point out that the featured article of another duelist Deadeye Duncan doesn't bother to say that that is his alias. More notably, in the infobox his name isn't in quotations. I really think that we should be consistent in this. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:50, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • I've gone ahead and removed the quotations from around Ice's name to keep it in-line with Deadeye Duncan. As far as calling it her alias, I'll leave that up to you to decide how you want to handle it. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 23:09, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • This is really a minor point, but I kind of disagree with the changing of "the amnesiac former Sith Lord Revan" to "the amnesiac former Dark Lord Revan". Could you explain your reasons for making this change Imperators II? I always found referring to Sith Lords as "Dark Lords" to be colloquial, and the division of the term into an un-linked "Dark" and the linked "Lord" looks awkward to me. I'm also a little unsure about all the instances of doing away with the pronouns, whatever the technical term for that is. In a few cases, I agree they're necessary, but I think you might've overdid it a little and substituted with too little pronouns now. Is there a guideline on how often the subject should be renamed? Finally, I previously changed the first line's "that" to "who" because I have read that the two are interchangeable, only that "who" is more correct if the subject is a person. I'm not too clear on the difference, and I'm still skeptical of that rule, but thus far, that is what I have read when looking up the issue on sites that advise on English grammar. Sol PacificusFirestorm 04:52, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
    • Oh my, I'm so stupid. This whole time, I hadn't re-read the line clearly that the subject being referred to in that clause is the "Taris dueling ring" not Ice, my bad. Sol PacificusFirestorm 04:56, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
      • I don't see how "Dark Lord" is colloquial. It's not wrong to refer to Revan as a Sith Lord, but it's more precise to refer to him as a Dark Lord of the Sith, especially considering how the Sith Empire had many Sith Lords, but only one Dark Lord.
Regarding pronouns, you had whole paragraphs that used nothing but one or two pronouns. It was repetitive, but, more importantly, could potentially cause confusion, like in the first paragraph the pronoun used to refer to Starkiller could also be interpreted as referring to Ajuur. You can never go wrong with alternating pronouns with last names/alternate descriptors/synonyms, and, as I said, it's less repetitive that way. Imperators II(Talk) 09:32, April 28, 2017 (UTC)
  • Yeah, when I had read it over, not through the actual editing window, I realized that you were right on the pronouns. I forgot that Dark Lord refers to the title of Dark Lord of the Sith, but if that's the case, I don't think it's really appropriate to break that into linking to the title "lord" which was also how I got confused. Dark Lord is its own exact title, which, while etymologically derived in part from "lord", isn't actually the same as the title of lord. Sol PacificusFirestorm 12:05, May 1, 2017 (UTC)
  • And yet the Dark Lords were addressed with the title "Lord". Imperators II(Talk) 13:40, May 1, 2017 (UTC)
  • Huh. Always thought that wasn't in reference to "Dark Lord", oops. But are you sure it still doesn't make more sense to link "Dark Lord" to "Dark Lord of the Sith", as you did in the introduction, instead? Sol PacificusFirestorm 23:44, May 1, 2017 (UTC)
  • Oh, it's already linked before. Ehhhhhh, dividing the term up like that looks so wrong to me, but oh well. >_< In a similar vein, I actually don't think that linking the first instant of a pronoun to "sexes" is the best idea grammatically. The pronoun ultimately refers to the subject, the person, not to the sex itself, and I find this awkward as well. Is this standard Wookieepedian practice? Sol PacificusFirestorm 23:46, May 1, 2017 (UTC)


Mul Sanaka

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:44, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Damn, somehow I completely missed that IFYLOFD had replied to the objection. Outstanding objections addressed in the comments.

(1 ACs/3 Users/4 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote Let's try this again, shall we? Imperators II(Talk) 21:56, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:11, November 3, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Cwedin(talk) 20:51, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  4. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 22:31, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Comments

  • In response to IFYLOFD's objection, there's no indication that he necessarily even knows about the bounty, his comments on profit are solely related to the band playing at the club. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:44, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure if Xd's objection is still outstanding as there is now an archive link in the reference thanks to Imperators. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:44, October 22, 2016 (UTC)


Guts and Glory: A Chronicle of The Amazing Story of The Twisted Rancor Trio

  • Nominated by: Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:56, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: An article that exceeded the word limit for a comprehensive article nomination. "This article was nominated before. I tried to address the points raised in the previous nomination. I am unsure of the proper layout for articles concerning books. Also, I was very skeptical of referring to this as a "book" in the first place, as the only known version we find is a draft that is only a several paragraphs long. I mentioned this in the article's talk page. I suppose the author intended it to be a book eventually."

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Support

  1. Provided EJ's objections are satisfied.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:02, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Fine after my review. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 17:11, May 11, 2017 (UTC)
  3. ACvote This must have been tricky to write, but it's an interesting read. I like the articles you write. You should write more articles. :P Imperators II(Talk) 18:16, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Exiled Jedi
  • The introduction to this article should be expanded.
    • I've expanded it as asked. I'm still not accustomed to how much detail an introduction should incorporate. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
  • There is some context about the band in the Slugthrowers article that should be mentioned in this article.
    • I cannot find any mention of this band in the slugthrowers article. :-/ Sol PacificusFirestorm 20:49, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
    • Oooh my bad. I did not realize you meant the reference article at StarWars.com. I used that source to describe the band as a jatz band, but I'm not sure if more should be mentioned. Refer below, this article pertains to the book, not the band itself, which is something I'm being careful about. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
      • I think the fact that they are a jatz band is important enough to mention in the body of the article, not just the BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
        • I've added a brief mention of it in the contents section as well, which reminds me, isn't it Wookieepedian policy for the things that are described in the introduction to be reintroduced in the body paragraphs? My current "Contents" section doesn't appear to do that, as it opens up as a continuation of the introduction. Does this need to be fixed? Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:33, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
  • The 3956 BBY date cannot be sourced directly to the game.
    • The game and Revan's events on Taris are set in 3956 BBY is it not? I did not write that the book was written or authored or published in 3956 BBY, but only that it was a "work in progress in 3956 BBY" meaning that at some point during that year, the book was not yet completed. We don't know when he began the book or when he finished it, but we know that Revan found it as a work in progress in 3956 BBY. Sol PacificusFirestorm 20:22, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
      • Yes, but the game does not directly say 3956 BBY. It gave an approximate date that clearly defined in other sources.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
  • Its mention in the Slughthrowers article should be mentioned in the BTS.
    • I can find no mention of it in the slugthrowers article, and there is no relevance of the band or the book to slugthrowers in the game.Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
    • Nevermind, I missed that you were referring to the reference article on StarWars.com. I have done as requested, but double-check that I did the citation correctly, as I have trouble with the proper format of citations that use templates.Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
  • Please include an image of the datapad from the game as it is an image of the work.
    • I will need help with this as I have no experience with retrieving images. I assumed that the process involved screen-shooting, pasting onto a document, then using some image editor to convert it to some means by which it can be uploaded. However, for whatever reason, any attempts to take a screenshot in the game results in a black-screen image. I did not formerly have this trouble with the game on this PC years ago. I'm actually not entirely sure we should include the image of the datapad in the first place. It shares the same image of datapad as many other datapads in the game. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
      • I don't have the game installed, so you will need to request an image from someone else. Sorry.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
        • Are you sure that this article would really benefit from the image? Because the image of the datapad is literally identical to the image of every other datapad in the game, including all the Star Maps. As such, I'm not sure if the image of the datapad can really be said to actually show this book, or if we'd be portraying it like the image uniquely shows the book while it actually can also be said to show the Star Maps, a water pump analysis report, a scientist's memo, etc. Moreover, the datapad isn't technically the book itself, but a device holding a draft of it. Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:45, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
        • I just added the image. I still disagree it should be included for the reasons I've stated, but I added it so you can get a better look. It's also quite low quality, but it's the best I can do. Sol PacificusFirestorm 11:55, January 20, 2017 (UTC)
  • Please provide a quote for the contents section.
    • Done, but I'm not sure my choice of quote is the best one.
  1. "The origins of what would eventually become the most famous band in the galaxy are surprisingly humble. The brains behind the group, manager Gilthos Uksaris, founded the Trio to earn a date with a young singer named Elinda." (introduction)
  2. "Davik asked Gilthos to bring his group in for a command performance. Gilthos agreed, realizing this could be the band's big break. Unfortunately, Elinda had heard certain unsubstantiated rumors about Davik Kang and his connections to the Exchange. Fearing for her life, she refused to go to his estate to perform." (6th line)
  3. "Many felt that without Elinda's singing the band would crumble. But Gilthos came up with a brilliant plan to save the group by hiring Elinda's sister, Ashana, as the new lead singer on the eve of their scheduled appearance at Davik's estate." (7th line)
  4. "Gilthos knew he was taking a risk. If Ashana couldn't perform at Elinda's level, Davik's infamous temper could have dire consequences for the entire band. However, if Ashana could match her sister's performance then Davik was likely to sign the band to a big time touring contract." (8th line)
  5. "It was a risk, but The Twisted Rancor Trio was founded on "Guts and Glory". (9th and last line)
I personally thought the last line was perfect as the introduction quote in the article. I preferred the 8th line for the Content section's quote, but I'm afraid that it may be weird given that it leads directly to the quote we have in the introduction section. I currently am using the 7th line. I considered using the first line of "the origins of what would [...]" but thought that might be too tame. Which line do you think is best? Sol PacificusFirestorm 21:08, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
I think that the one you selected is fine.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
  • Looking at the text from the in-game item, it looks like there is more detail that should be added to the article.
    • I intentionally minimized details from the text from the in-game item because this article deals with the book itself not the Twisted Rancor Trio or its members. The book provides a summary of the history of the band, the article explains the book and therefore explains the summary of the history of the band, not the history of the band per se. In contrast, I explained the narrative of the band and its members in as much detail as I could in their respective articles (save the band itself which I didn't work on). I tried to provide as much detail as I could in accordance with this policy of explaining the book's contents, not paraphrasing what the book narrates. Sol PacificusFirestorm 20:49, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
    • In other words, I am being very careful about making sure the content of this article has the book as the topic, not the band itself. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
    • I actually wanted to add that we possibly could go for a "Plot summary" section instead. Since it is an in-universe article, we could write it like how Wikipedia often has a plot summary or synopsis section for books and movies. Maybe this is the better approach. My main reasoning why I did not go this route is because the text is actually quite brief, and I am fairly certain that applying as much detail as possible, the "Plot summary" would actually be longer than the original text itself, which I found awkward as it's meant to be a "summary". xD Sol PacificusFirestorm 01:29, November 17, 2016 (UTC)
      • Well, the thing is that the article should do its best to be comprehensive and cover everything that the original does. If it needs to be longer than the actual game text to adequately explain its contents, that is not an issue. You don't need to refer to everything verbatim, but you need to hit all of the main points / themes. Here are the main areas I think are lacking:
        • You don't really mention how Uksaris refers to Davik as a legitimate businessman and that the rumors of being connected to Exchange are unsubstantiated, but then he mentions the major risk and dire consequences if they disappoint him. I think these are important to note.
        • Also, I think you should mention that Uksaris wrote that if Ashana could match Elinda that Davik would likely sign them to a major touring contract.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
          • I've done as you asked. Those were indeed some important details I missed, even if I were posing it as a description of the book's contents, not the story itself. However, I had some slight trouble fitting these missing pieces in without rewriting the whole thing. I did think that it was good to note that the missing details explain the title and theme of the book.
In regards to mentioning that Uksaris seemed to suggest Kang's association with the Exchange are but unsubstantiated rumors, and that he referred to him as a legitimate businessman, I added it in the last line as:
"Though authored by Uksaris, he had chosen to write it in the third-person, but this did not stop it from being tinged with his perspective, as he refers to Kang as a "legitimate businessman" whose affiliation with the Exchange are unsubstantiated rumors—rumors that were in fact entirely true."
I'm not sure of this approach because I think it might verge on making my own interpretation of the piece, in describing its diction and implications. My earlier version to try to incorporate this piece was this:
"At the time that the draft was written, the invitation and the conflict that ensued were recent developments, as the narrative ended with Ashana replacing her sister Elinda as lead singer on the eve of the scheduled performance when the latter refused to accept the invitation for fear of Kang's rumored association with the Exchange.
Because Ashana's musical skill was untested and failure to please the crime lord could provoke the Exchange's wrath, the band was aware that the last-minute plot could endanger their lives. Nevertheless, Uksaris, aside from his skepticism of these rumors, was adamant that the reward—for Kang to sign them onto a major touring contract—outweighed these risks. It is thus in allusion to this bold gamble that Uksaris based the theme of his book: "guts and glory"."
My issue with this earlier version is that I'm not sure "rumors" clearly referred to Kang's rumored association with the Exchange as its 2 lines away not to mention in the previous paragraph. Also it doesn't refer to him thinking of him as a legitimate businessman, which I don't personally think we really need to explicitly state (i.e. I think it's enough just to say Uksaris didn't believe those rumors were unsubstiantiated), but anyways if we wanted to include it, I was having trouble fitting those in without creating sentences that run too long, hence the version I'm using at the moment. Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:25, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
  • Have you checked Knights of the Old Republic: Prima's Official Strategy Guide for any mention of the book?
    • I just checked. I can find no mention of it, even in the items section. The strategy guide is for the Xbox version, and I'm not sure one for the PC was ever made. It's entirely possible this little mini-quest was never part of the Xbox version of the game, which is outdated compared to the PC version. Sol PacificusFirestorm 20:49, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
      • Please try and find out if it was in the Xbox version then. If it is not, then that should be mentioned in the BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
        • As I said, the Xbox version doesn't include any mention of it. Wouldn't mentioning this in the BTS simply be to say that it's absent from the source? I'm not sure if it makes sense to write in BTS sections that an article's subject is absent from particular sources. :-/ Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:33, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
          • You said that it was entirely possible that it wasn't in the Xbox version of the game. That is what I wanted you to check and include in the BTS if it is not in that version.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 02:50, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
            • Ahh my bad. So a quick search online, I've found this, which seems to prove that it is in the Xbox version. If it wasn't, it should obviously be noted, but since it is, is there still anything to note? Sol PacificusFirestorm 03:01, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
  • I will look over the article again after you finish with these objections.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 15:28, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
Couple things…
  • Overall, some of the subjects in the article need describing, such as to what ecactly is the Exchange, the Lower of City of what or where, who Bastila and Carth were, etc.
    • Done. Always a good point, as this is my major gripe with Wikipedian articles :P. However, I thought "Lower City" was a bit self-explanatory, as the "lower levels" of Taris, unless you wanted it to be described as crime-infested. I don't think district is necessarily accurate since it spanned the entire city but a plane lower. I did add "of Taris" though.
  • Always link subjects at their first mention in the article body. Also, as I stated in the nomination page for Ice, there is no need to link subjects in quotations.
  • If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 16:56, February 17, 2017 (UTC)
The CP

Nice job, but I would like to see a bit more to the intro, such as the fact that the guy had it in a datapad in his apartment. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 19:51, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

  • I also agree with CP's point. You should mention in the intro how Revan was connected to all this, just like on your Holdan and Ice nominations. Imperators II(Talk) 10:59, May 1, 2017 (UTC)
  • Done. I'm still a little confused about this because information like that is part of game mechanics not confirmed 100% canon. Sol PacificusFirestorm 17:58, May 9, 2017 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • Having the same image illustrating several different subjects is fine, but maybe you could add a comment to the infobox title that it's a datapad containing the draft.
  • Jedi Civil War and the destruction of Taris are intro-exclusive.
    • Would you prefer that the Jedi Civil War be added in the "Description" or the "History" section? The latter seems the most obvious, however, the only reason why it's in the intro in the first place was as context for the Twisted Rancor Trio, which in the body, appears in the "Description". When I was writing this, I didn't think the war is relevant to the book itself (though relevant to the band), or does it not really matter? Sol PacificusFirestorm 11:56, May 1, 2017 (UTC)
    • Done. Sol PacificusFirestorm 17:58, May 9, 2017 (UTC)
  • Is "guts and glory" the book's theme or rather its title?
    • It's both. I thought mentioning that Uksaris poses it as the theme that inspires the title, or references to it directly is an important detail about the book. Sol PacificusFirestorm 11:56, May 1, 2017 (UTC)
  • Uksaris's opinion on Kang is a fine example on the book's subjective perspective, but I think that an even better example is Uksaris's referring to his idea to replace Elinda with Ashana as a "brilliant plan" despite his friend's warning and the fact that Uksaris himself admitted it was a risk. Maybe add it as well?
  • It seems to me Uksaris's friend merits an article.
  • "In the same vein, since it ended with Ashana's recruitment as the replacement for Elinda on the eve of the band's scheduled performance for Davik Kang, it is not known whether his plan was a success or failure." - I'm afraid this sentence doesn't really have anything to do with the book and would better be at home on the band's article.
    • I think that there isn't any real harm in including the sentence even if its connection to the memoir is tangential because it helps clarify the consequence of where the memoir happens to leave off: that it leaves the fate of the band unknown because this is our only source on them. I modified the sentence to clarify the relevance of the sentence. Sol PacificusFirestorm 17:58, May 9, 2017 (UTC)
  • I believe the proper name of the band should be "The Twisted Rancor Trio".
  • The first section (I've changed it to Description per the precedent of our other IU written work GAs) needs a bit of rearranging. It seems that the sequence of events was something like this: 1) Elinda refused to participate, 2) then there were some doubts about the band's future, and 3) Ashana was recruited (by Uksaris - this also needs to be noted). Your writing should reflect this sequence more accurately. Dealing with this issue should also help clarify the "the conflict that ensued" bit that you mention without any prior context.
    • I'm not really sure about this. From what I see, it's not really that the sequence of the events are off so much as I summarized the entire sequence in one sentence, that is, I noted that Ashana replaced Elinda and why. I think part of the confusion might be the fact I went with a restrained plot summary, owing to my own confusion over the proper manual of style for articles on books, so I summarized that whole sequence rather than going through each and every detail in precise chronological order. I'm also doubtful that the "the conflict that ensued" needs context since it is referring directly to (or was intended to refer directly to) the clause that immediately follows: "as the narrative ended with Ashana replacing her sister Elinda as lead singer on the eve of the scheduled performance when the latter refused to accept the invitation for fear of Kang's association with the Exchange, a powerful crime syndicate". Sol PacificusFirestorm 11:56, May 1, 2017 (UTC)
      • If I'm reading the sentence correctly, the word "as" in "as the narrative ended" is used as a conjunction with the meaning "for the reason that; because". So the sentence as is basically reads "... the invitation and the conflict ... were recent developments, because the narrative ended with Ashana replacing Elinda ...". But it should be the other way around, "... the narrative ended with Ashana replacing Elinda ..., because ... the invitation and the conflict ... were recent developments". Imperators II(Talk) 09:27, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
        • As I was correcting the sentence, I realized that I must've written it that way originally to account for the fact that we can't simply say that this was where the narrative ended because Gilthos, for all we know, continued writing it later (albeit on a different datapad if he had it backed up somewhere). That is to say, this is where the narrative ended when Revan found it, not necessarily where it ended in its final draft. Somehow, accommodating this led to the phrasing as it was. Here's an example of how unwieldy I found it: "The draft of the narrative as the amnesiac Dark Lord of the Sith Revan found it ended with Ashana replacing her sister Elinda as lead singer on the eve of the scheduled performance when the latter refused to accept the invitation for fear of Kang's association with the Exchange, a powerful crime syndicate because these were the latest developments at the time Revan recovered it." In my correction, I just omitted the mention that these were the latest developments when Revan found a draft of it altogether. It's probably also because putting the "because these were recent developments" at the end causes confusion, making it sound as though it intends to refer to Elinda's refusal to accept the invitation instead, not the fact that the narrative ended where it did when Revan found it. In any case, I have corrected it, or tried to. Sol PacificusFirestorm 09:19, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Comments


B1 grapple droid

  • Nominated by: Cwedin(talk) 22:45, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: A CAN that got too long.

(1 ACs/4 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:18, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
  2. --Lewisr (talk) 13:05, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:19, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
  4. ACvote I switched up the order of BTS since in this case it's more important to lead off with the more relevant Galactic Defense rather than previous Legends appearances. Imperators II(Talk) 14:09, December 20, 2016 (UTC)
  5. Nice job. :) Sol PacificusFirestorm 07:52, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Cevan
  • Couldn't the B1 grapple droid's name be sourced to Galactic Defense as opposed to the launch trailer? Both the game and trailer were released on the same day, and I would imagine the actual game should take precedence. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 00:56, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
    • The droids weren't actually named in the game, so the trailer's all we have. - Cwedin(talk) 01:06, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
      • Interesting. So they weren't named in the game's enemy database? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:10, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
        • Nope. That's why I initially misinterpreted them as plasma battle droids. - Cwedin(talk) 01:17, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
          • Got it—thanks Cwedin! Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:18, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Referencing issues: If a subject doesn't appear in a given source, that source should never be used as an outright reference for specific information pertaining to the subject. For example, the majority of this article is referenced to the Character Encyclopedia, but the B1 grapple droid is never even mentioned in that book! Let's take the first infobox field, for example. The reference used to cite the droid's creator suggests that I could literally open up the Character Encyclopedia and find a passage that says, to paraphrase, "The Geonosians manufactured the B1 grapple droid," when this is simply not the case. You're extrapolating this information from some indirect information provided in that source, which is fine, but that rationale needs to be explained in a manual reference note so the reader knows how you're arriving at this information. The same goes for Ultimate Star Wars and any other source being referenced in this manner. It may be necessary to use multiple manual reference notes for each source. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 13:17, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
Sol Pacificus
  • Even in the absence of an official policy, I don't see any reason why articles shouldn't be consistent with introducing in either the subject in the singular or plural form. Maybe it's just because I come from a wiki where this is a frequent issue, but I find this to be particularly glaring for this article. Could you change it to the singular to conform with most other articles (including the immediate B1 grapple droid/Legends, B1 battle droid, and B2 grapple droid). Sol PacificusFirestorm 04:39, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
    • The intro is now updated, and I'll keep the singular intro in mind when writing future articles. Consistency is key! - Cwedin(talk) 05:55, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • Is there any rule that the subject should be introduced in the singular? Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:49, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
    • I haven't heard of one. - Cwedin(talk) 03:50, April 25, 2017 (UTC)


Z9

  • Nominated by: Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:11, November 30, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Decided to knock this guy out before I really get cracking on Gubacher.

(2 ACs/5 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. Shayn Mikel (talk) 04:10, November 30, 2016 (UTC) The article is about as comprehensive as it gets for a single-episode background character.
  2. Great work! Nivlacanator(talk) 05:41, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 17:59, December 29, 2016 (UTC)
  4. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 01:44, May 1, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:56, May 1, 2017 (UTC)
  6. ProfessorTofty (talk) 18:20, May 22, 2017 (UTC)
  7. ACvote 1358 (Talk) 22:13, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Nivlacanator
  • I would identify D-Suad. Something like this: "efforts of D-Squad, a Republic squad of spy droids". Nivlacanator(talk) 05:52, November 30, 2016 (UTC)
  • At the word "boarded", I would suggest making it a link to "Escape from Abafar."
  • A word better than pelted might be better—battered, bombarded.
  • Z9 should also be affiliated with the Republic Military, so that should be added to the infobox, etc.
    • Done. In case anyone should ask, the "military" in "Republic military" is lowercase because, despite the page it links to being uppercase, whoever made that page was in error and it has yet to be uppercase in canon. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 13:40, November 30, 2016 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • You have some infobox-exclusive information. Imperators II(Talk) 20:48, December 20, 2016 (UTC)
    • I believe that should do it. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:46, December 24, 2016 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • Is the droid's top ever referred to as a "dome"? If not, I wouldn't refer to it as such. It's not really the correct shape for a dome. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 21:53, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
The CP
  • Hey Cevan, a couple things. Shouldn't the antenna and the computer probe-arm be spelled out in both the infobox and Characteristic sections?
  • Also the word "approach" is used twice in the last part of the characteristics. Please try to switch it up a bit.
  • Nice job otherwise. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 20:06, April 30, 2017 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • Some preliminary objections before I look at the prose itself. The references for the droid's height are inadequate as is. Z9 is not mentioned in any of the Databank entries, so you'll need to include a note about how you reached the conclusion. Essentially the exact same objection as Toprawa's objection in the nomination above yours.
  • I'd like to see the intro slightly expanded.
  • As with your Unidentified false Jedi nomination, check your image caption punctuations.
  • Ditto, this goes for the IMDb reference. It requires a backup link, which the template supports.
  • IIRC there's a category for droids by programmed gender. 1358 (Talk) 17:05, May 11, 2017 (UTC)
    • Not sure how I missed that—added. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 00:19, May 12, 2017 (UTC)
  • "Z9 was aboard the space station Valor along with Tarkin shortly before the Republic strategy conference on board the station was set to begin." Two -boards in the same sentence. Please vary your usage; personally I'd swap the first one with "present on".
  • The last sentence of the intro reads awkwardly, and I think the reason is the "while". Quoting the style guide of The Economist, "while" is best reserved for time-related usage. Please try to reword the sentence for better flow.
    • How's that? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 19:02, June 12, 2017 (UTC)
      • Still sounding a bit choppy. My recommendation would be something like "The Separatist plan to ram the Valor with the cruiser was foiled after a Republic squad managed to detonate the incoming ship, saving Valor and…"
        • How about now? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 15:40, June 30, 2017 (UTC)
  • Piggybacking my first objection, there's too many "aboards/on boards" in the body. Please vary.
  • Emdashes should be kept to a minimum as they break the flow of the text. You have two emdash clauses in the same paragraph in the bio.
    • Removed one of the emdashes. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 19:02, June 12, 2017 (UTC)
  • To say someone "possesses" programming doesn't really sound proper. 1358 (Talk) 21:24, June 5, 2017 (UTC)
    • Changed to "had." Cevan IMPpress (talk) 19:02, June 12, 2017 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Similar to my objection on your other nomination, the information regarding Industrial Automaton as Z9's manufacturer, and anything else from that source, requires a manual reference note, as Z9 is not mentioned within. You'll notice particularly the problem with sourcing such an explicit assertion as "Z9 was equipped with a repair arm" to a book that doesn't even mention the droid.
  • For the TCW episode's air date, please refer to the Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Episode Guide as a primary source that contains this information, as opposed to the unreliable IMDb. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:01, July 19, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Imperial Peace-Keeping Certificate

  • Nominated by: AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:02, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: The long-awaited round two; original nomination can be found here.

(1 ACs/5 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 17:51, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  2. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 02:08, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:22, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 23:53, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
  5. --Lewisr (talk) 00:08, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
  6. Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:29, February 20, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Cevan
  • It may not be a bad idea to mention in the behind the scenes section that the certificate was first pictured in canon in Star Wars Rebels: Rebel Journal by Ezra Bridger. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 15:57, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
Imperators II
Toprawa
  • We should be trying to use an infobox whenever possible. For this subject, I think you would be ok with using either Artifact or Device, but if you wanted to be Superman, you could create a brand-new template for documents or something. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:44, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
    • I've decided to use the Device template since I'm unfamiliar with created infobox templates. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:37, May 7, 2017 (UTC)
  • Is that really the best scan we can get for the infobox? It's clearly crooked.
  • I'm curious why you write "at some posting agencies" in the Description. Was it not accepted at some agencies?
  • Some referencing notes: Always use an official publisher's product page to reference publication dates where possible. We have citation templates for most publishers. Only use Amazon in the instance a product page doesn't exist or otherwise doesn't provide a publication date. For this article, I've used the Disney Press website for Ezra's Gamble. The Studio Fun product page for Rebel Journal provides an October 7 pub. date rather than October 21, which I'm guessing is old data, so Amazon is an acceptable alternative here. When you do use the Amazon citation template, don't italicize the page name, even if it's a published title. Amazon doesn't italicize its page titles. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:54, July 21, 2017 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • The intro sentence is a huge run-on and needs to be split up. 1358 (Talk) 11:31, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Cradossk

  • Nominated by: Cwedin(talk) 10:06, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Res Luk Ra'auf, indeed.

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Support

  1. Would be nice if the image of Bossk didn't displace the personality and traits section, but alas. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 22:14, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:31, December 15, 2016 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 18:45, December 22, 2016 (UTC)
  4. Yay for more canon status articles! MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 04:29, June 3, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Good stuff! --Lewisr (talk) 18:49, June 3, 2017 (UTC)
  6. ACvote 1358 (Talk) 16:07, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Ayrehead
  • I think it's worth mentioning that Bossk was born on Trandosha. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:17, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
  • You'll need to include a separate reference for the 5 BBY date since Ezra's Gamble doesn't use that date anywhere. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:17, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
    • Done and done. - Cwedin(talk) 17:07, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
Lewisr
  • In the behind the scenes section you say Craddosk first appeared in Ezra's Gamble but he was only mentioned. Would it not be best to change it to saying he was first mentioned and then later in the paragraph where you say he was pictured in Galactic Defense changing that to he first appeared and was identified as Craddosk? --Lewisr (talk) 02:21, June 3, 2017 (UTC)
    • Good catch, looks like that was mistakenly changed in a copy-edit. I've reworded it a bit, so it should be good now. - Cwedin(talk) 18:45, June 3, 2017 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • "Cradossk was a Trandoshan male and the father of the bounty hunter Bossk. A seasoned warrior and respected bounty hunter,..." As you don't introduce Cradossk as a bounty hunter in the first sentence, the reader gets thrown off in the second sentence, thinking that you're referring to Bossk in the first clause of the second sentence. I recommend dropping Bossk's context here altogether.
  • I don't think adding Ezra's species as context really provides any value to the reader. Context for the sake of context is pointless. (edit: referring to the intro here. The way it's used in the body is fine) 1358 (Talk) 00:01, June 7, 2017 (UTC)
    • Fixed. Thanks for looking over the article! - Cwedin(talk) 02:44, June 8, 2017 (UTC)
  • "Like his father, Bossk became a bounty hunter, joining the Bounty Hunters' Guild" Is Cradossk's membership in the Guild also confirmed? The way it reads, it seems Cradossk is also a member. If that's the case, it's probably worth mentioning earlier in the article as well as in the infobox. 1358 (Talk) 11:38, June 21, 2017 (UTC)
    • Cradossk's involvement with the Guild is unknown, so I've removed the mention to avoid confusion. - Cwedin(talk) 03:13, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Veraslayn Kast

  • Nominated by: Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:20, January 8, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I shouldn't be going over the word count this time.

(2 ACs/4 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Lewisr (talk) 02:48, January 9, 2017 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Don't limit yourself. :P Imperators II(Talk) 12:25, January 9, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Are split articles meant to have NOTOC? Ayrehead02 (talk) 22:39, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
  4. Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:36, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Be careful of using "which" when it should grammatically be "that." Other than that, good work. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 21:42, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:25, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Ecks Dee
  • Can we establish some sort of timeline in the intro as well? 1358 (Talk) 11:45, June 21, 2017 (UTC)
    • Is that all right? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 15:38, June 30, 2017 (UTC)
  • I'm not convinced the civil war factions are necessary to mention in the intro, or if you insist, you need to tie it to the rest of the intro (i.e. the Death Watch - Shadow Collective relationship). 1358 (Talk) 22:18, July 5, 2017 (UTC)
    • I've added that Death Watch was a founding member of the Shadow Collective in the intro. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:29, July 9, 2017 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • If the character does not appear in Galactic Atlas, then that source cannot be used outright as a reference for the character's 19 BBY death date. Doing so is tantamount to telling the reader that Galactic Atlas explicitly says that Veraslayn Kast died in 19 BBY, which it of course does not. Since you are extrapolating this conclusion from secondary pieces of information, you need to manually explain the rationale you used to reach this conclusion in a reference note so that the reader understands where this information is coming from.
  • Rather than using Amazon, a secondary source, to reference the book's publication date, please refer to the Star Wars Propaganda article and employ its primary source, the publisher's website. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:59, July 18, 2017 (UTC)
    • Changed to the Harper Collins template. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 23:15, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Nightsister crystal ball

  • Nominated by: Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:51, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: "Oo-de-lally! Oo-de-lally! Fortune tellers!"

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Support

  1. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 20:40, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Great to see more TCW stuff nominated, and Nightsister stuff to boot! - AV-6R7Crew Pit 03:53, January 15, 2017 (UTC)
  3. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 15:42, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  4. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 19:56, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Imperators II
  • No quotes? Imperators II(Talk) 09:38, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
    • Added in three quotes relating at least somewhat to the crystal ball. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 22:41, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
      • Nice.
  • Please expand the intro to mention the Ball's connection to Maul.
  • The artifact's material can be specified in the infobox.
  • Since you provide full dates for the Ball's later appearances, I'd like you to do the same for its original appearance(s).
  • Same objections regarding linking in references as on your Phelbos CAN.
  • Same objections regarding use of Cite web as on your Phelbos CAN.
  • Also, there seem to be some formatting errors in refs 14 and 17. Imperators II(Talk) 14:56, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
AV-6R7
  • Star Wars: The Clone Wars The Complete Season Three calls this item "Mother Talzin's crystal ball," while Ultimate Star Wars calls it a "Nightsister crystal ball" (no caps). Both sources came out before the Databank entry, which, until recently, tended to capitalize the begin of every word in an entry's title. I'd suggest moving it to the former title. Besides that, there is really no new info in these sources. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 22:30, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
    • Thanks AV! I'm going to incorporate all of that into this article, as well as move the Legends of this page to a /Legends title. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 00:23, January 13, 2017 (UTC)
      • Sure thing; happy editing! - AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:27, January 13, 2017 (UTC)
        • All right, both the Nightsister crystal ball page and this nomination page have been moved to the lowercase name (thanks again, Exiled!). Cevan IMPpress (talk) 16:12, January 14, 2017 (UTC)
  • Since the Nightsister crystal ball wasn't named in its first appearance, you'll have to notice where it was first ID'd in the Bts. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:36, January 13, 2017 (UTC)
    • Added. I wasn't sure exactly where in the Bts to place that info, however it's currently at the end of the section, my reasoning for that being to make it clear that the crystal ball was not identified as anything in "Visions and Voices." Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:41, January 13, 2017 (UTC)
      • Nice work. I'll give the article another once-over. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 01:42, January 13, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • There are a couple things I didn't really include or give context to (Ventress and why the Nightsister lair is deserted) as the crystal ball itself already doesn't have a huge presence in the history section and I didn't want 90% of the article to just be giving context and information that may not have been entirely necessary, however if anyone feels that these should absolutely be included in the article I'll do my best to squeeze them in. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:51, January 11, 2017 (UTC)


BC-714 luxury transport

  • Nominated by: Ghulavar Ø 19:30, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: As the first GAnom has been removed due to inactivity several years ago, here we go with the second.

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Support

  1. Great work! - AV-6R7Crew Pit 15:31, January 19, 2017 (UTC)
  2. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 02:30, January 25, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Nice job! Cevan IMPpress (talk) 21:15, January 30, 2017 (UTC)
  4. ACvote I have to agree with the guys, nice work on this one. Imperators II(Talk) 12:11, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

Object

AV-6R7
  • According to SWCustom-2011 Back From the Drawing Board, Part 2: Repurposed Star Wars Technology on StarWars.com (backup link on Archive.org), the B -724 didn't actually end up appearing in AotC. Can you verify at they did in fact appear? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 20:40, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
    • Good catch. As the Fact File (F: TEC1-2) states, San Hill didn't use a BC-714 for his travel to Geonosis but a Hardcell freighter that went down over E’Y-Akh desert due to a malfunctioning thruster. According to this and to the StarWars.com blog entry you're right: The BC-714 does not appear AotC. On the other hand, the IGBC databank entry states that the ship couldn't be seen in the film "clearly". I think, that's kind of contradictory. I added that to the BtS section and removed the obviously wrong information. Sorry for that. Ghulavar Ø
  • Could you put a 1stm tag in somewhere? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 22:07, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
    • I think that has been in the Art of book and the TCG simultaniously on April 23rd, 2002. Shall I add it to the TCG as it's the more in-universe source or to both? Ghulavar Ø 22:16, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
  • The old Databank entry for San Hill called this ship an InterGalactic Banking Clan ship; this should be mentioned in the intro and somewhere in the body, where it should be cited to the Databank entry. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 23:32, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
  • The article I linked to earlier had concept art of this ship; perhap this piece can be found in full in the AotC art book. It would make a good addition to the Bts section. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:16, January 19, 2017 (UTC)
    • Both done. Ghulavar Ø 14:53, January 19, 2017 (UTC)
  • The outdated info about Hill using a BC to go to Geonosis is still in the intro. This should be fixed, since he only used one as his personal starship. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 15:01, January 19, 2017 (UTC)
It's a Muun rocket, alright
  • If the ship was manufactured for and used by IGBC, why list Techno Union in the affiliation field of the infobox?
  • The "travel to systems they had business dealings with" bit should also be mentioned somewhere in the article's body.
  • Since The Clone Wars Campaign Guide only depicts one variant and doesn't even mention the other, how can you say they're identical in most aspects? That bit should be left out.
  • I thought that when RPG stats list the complement of a starship, they describe what vessels, if any, the starship normally carries, or is supposed to carry, not whether it actually has any physical space available for carrying them. Can you reword this?
    • I went ahead and assumed these were addressed, as well.
  • The Databank entry doesn't actually identify the BC-714 by its alternate name.
    • Where's the mistake of the text?
      • History, second sentence: "The ship was also referred to as the "InterGalactic Banking Clan ship" due to its use by the finance conglomerate for interstellar business travel.[2]" - what's currently in ref 2 doesn't even use that name.
  • Is there any reason why "Science Fiction" and "Twin-Ion" are capitalized in the BTS? Imperators II(Talk) 07:11, May 23, 2017 (UTC)
    • I'm From Germany. We Capitalize A Lot Of Words. ;D Done. Ghulavar Ø 21:16, May 30, 2017 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • In the infobox, certainly this ship is equipped with an engine? In which case it's customary to just say "Equipped" (pipelink it to the engine article) in that field and reference accordingly. The article body will also then need to mention its sublight engines. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:34, July 20, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Baird Kantoo

  • Nominated by: Cwedin(talk) 02:59, January 26, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:
"My God, what have I done?"
―Baird Kantoo, minutes after creating a handheld superweapon and destroying a moon because blasters weren't civilized enough for him. (Seriously, what was this guy thinking?)

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Support

  1. Nice to see a Freemakers article nominated! Cevan IMPpress (talk) 22:14, January 29, 2017 (UTC)
  2. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 08:15, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:34, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  4. Great article! TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 19:06, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Cevan
  • Are we certain that the planet Rowan destroyed the Kyber Saber on was Mustafar? I was under the impression it could be Sullust, since the Alliance Fleet comes out of hyperspace over it and The Freemaker Adventures are set between Episodes V and VI. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:43, January 29, 2017 (UTC)
    • Fair point. I'll remove the planet name until more info is available. - Cwedin(talk) 22:11, January 29, 2017 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • I'd like to see more precise referencing for the Legends stuff in the BTS. Ref 5 should use the {{TORcite}} template, while ref 6 should cite specific comic issue(s). Imperators II(Talk) 19:04, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified false Jedi

  • Nominated by: Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:55, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Here's hoping we get to see this full story someday.

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Support

  1. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 01:13, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Nice work; it can be difficult working with cut info. - Pyke syndicate AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:46, February 9, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:32, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  4. --Lewisr (talk) 15:32, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Sol PacificusFirestorm 21:00, April 12, 2017 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Two-sentence GAs, woo-hoo...! Seriously, nice work though. Imperators II(Talk) 05:56, May 30, 2017 (UTC)

Object

AnilSerifoglu
  • You can briefly mention the flashback scene in The Gathering, which was a nod to this story as Filoni said during the panel. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 01:39, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
AV
  • IIRC, Dave Filoni talks about Latrans in The Complete S3s Zygerria featurette. Could you check that? - Pyke syndicate AV-6R7Crew Pit 01:16, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
    • Just checked, and he does indeed make mention of Latrans (not directly by name) in that featurette. Thanks for catching that, AV! I should have the information from there up a little later tonight. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 21:22, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
      • Sorry for the delay; I've added the featurette information into the article. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 22:20, February 7, 2017 (UTC)
Sol Pacificus
  • "Tano was no longer able to feel the Jedi as a whole through the Force, something she had been able to do since she was very young and credited with saving her life in her encounter with the false Jedi."
I actually found this sentence really hard to understand, especially coming from someone who is entirely unfamiliar with this character and the story. What is being credited? Ahsoka's ability to feel the Jedi through the Force? Her ability to sense the false Jedi? The false Jedi herself? I think the syntax might actually be a tiny bit off. Actually after reading it several more times, I think I understand it better; you mean to say that her ability to sense the Jedi had saved her life from this false Jedi, and this is perhaps the only reference to this character in the novel? I think it might help if you also clarified how feeling the Jedi as a whole through the Force helped save her life from this character or what it means to sense the Jedi as a whole, though I understand the information is probably very scarce. Anyways, is it possible for you to tweak this sentence a little bit to improve clarity? Sol PacificusFirestorm 08:02, April 4, 2017 (UTC)
Here's the full quote from the novel: "Even the sense of the Jedi as a whole was gone, and she'd been able to feel that since she was too small to articulate what it was that she felt. The feeling had saved her life once, when she was very young and a false Jedi came to Shili to enslave her."
This is the only mention of the false Jedi in Ahsoka (or any canon material for that matter), and we unfortunately do not know how Ahsoka sensing the Jedi as a whole saved her life here—I imagine she was able to sense that the false Jedi was merely posing as a Jedi, but adding that into the article would be speculative. If you'd still like me to do so, I can try and see about clearing that passage up in the article as best I can. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:46, April 7, 2017 (UTC)
I think I fixed the sentence. However, it might make more sense to write it from the false Jedi's perspective. That is, to state that the false Jedi had threatened Ahsoka's life, but that Ahsoka's ability to sense the Jedi as a whole had saved her life. That might help the confusion, but then again it might not because rewording it like that make the "sensing Jedi as a whole" sound even weirder. What do you think? Sol PacificusFirestorm 06:25, April 8, 2017 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and rewritten that part—how is it now? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 19:25, April 11, 2017 (UTC)
It's good. :) Sol PacificusFirestorm 21:00, April 12, 2017 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • Check your image caption punctuation. Only full sentences should have a full stop. 1358 (Talk) 21:39, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
  • According to the MoS, the bolded name in the intro should not contain links. You should instead link the subjects at the next possible opportunity.
  • The Amazon and IMDb references both lack a backup link. Both templates should support adding them.
  • Using {{1stm}} {{Imo}} in the Sources would be better than a custom text. 1358 (Talk) 14:54, May 11, 2017 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • I'd like to see some indicator of the timeframe worked into the body, i.e., the false Jedi must've come to Shili at some point between the year of Tano's birth and the year of her joining the Order, right?
    • So sorry for the hold-up—I've been away without computer access for a bit. I've gone ahead and added this in now. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 21:45, May 29, 2017 (UTC)
  • So the link in ref 3 doesn't work.
  • "Filoni presumed that, due to the rarity of Force-sensitives in the galaxy, they would be highly sought after and some may attempt to kidnap them. The residents of Tano's town, having never met a Jedi before, would be none the wiser to Latrans's ruse." - could you reword this so that the IU parts are in past tense? Imperators II(Talk) 09:20, May 23, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • That's not an objection, but I have a minor suggestion. Maybe you can name Plo Koon's species, Kel Dor, somewhere in the article, considering the emphasis on his "creepy" and "sinister" appearance. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 01:39, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure if that's where you wanted it placed, but I've gone ahead and mentioned that Plo Koon is a Kel Dor. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:26, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
      • I would recommend somewhere in the line "creepy" and "sinister" appearance of Plo Koon, the story's hero. But it's just my personal preference, I'm fine with it anyway. The article looks great! TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 01:13, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
        • Thanks! I'll try and mess around with it later and see if I can fit it in down there. If it doesn't work out, I'll leave it as is. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 21:22, February 6, 2017 (UTC)


Krix

  • Nominated by: Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 20:20, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:Thanks to the bot I can throw up another Trando.

(1 ACs/3 Users/4 Total)

Support

  1. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 21:22, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Cwedin(talk) 21:27, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  3. ACvote I hope you'll write up the Legends version, as well. Imperators II(Talk) 11:23, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
  4. We need more Canon status articles. I've even had people point this out on the Instagram account. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 01:06, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Cevan
  • Any chance you could add in to the biography that Krix was present for Garnac's endorsement of the hunt, as well as the fact that he and the others Trandoshans then grabbed their weapons before heading out that day? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 22:13, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
Imperators II
Intro
  • "Krix was a Trandoshan male hunter and pilot who was a member of a hunting guild that hunted sentient beings." - could you please do something about this repetition?
  • "Krix witnessed Dar's initiation ceremony, but the young hunter was killed the following day." - you should add that Dar was killed by one of the captives.
  • "Krix flew a hover pod to the site of the guild's crashed freighter" - here, as well, the intro should be clarified a bit by saying the captives caused the crash.
  • (not an objection) You should double-check whether the links you add are of the correct continuity, I found and fixed two for you.
  • "After a skirmish dissolved Garnac's guild" - here, again, I believe you should add that the skirmish was with the captives.
Body

Comments

Some new edits will have to be made. Depending on the lighting of the scene, Krix, Gilas, and Clutch become very difficult to tell apart. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 21:03, March 20, 2017 (UTC)


Rakata Prime

  • Nominated by: TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 07:41, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: The article now exceeds 250 words, so I nominate it for good article status this time. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 07:41, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

(1 ACs/5 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Cwedin(talk) 21:29, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 00:39, February 15, 2017 (UTC)
  3. I could live there for my retirement.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:45, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  4. Sol PacificusFirestorm 07:50, April 4, 2017 (UTC)
  5. ACvote One sentence GAs... Imperators II(Talk) 08:01, May 23, 2017 (UTC)
  6. --Lewisr (talk) 14:38, June 1, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Comments

Lotho Minor

  • Nominated by: Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 21:56, May 8, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: A more substantial planet nom than what I usually write.

(1 ACs/1 Users/2 Total)

Support

  1. Sol PacificusFirestorm 19:56, May 24, 2017 (UTC)
  2. ACvote RAXUS PRIME MUCH? Imperators II(Talk) 18:57, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Fred strikes back
  • I feel like the word "refuse," as fancy as it is, is used too frequently during the "History" section. Maybe use synonyms for one or two of them to diversify the language. That's all I can see for now. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 03:45, May 9, 2017 (UTC)
Sol Pacificus
  • "His driving desire to cling to life caused Maul to rebuild himself with spider-like legs in place of his severed ones, living in hiding in the caves beneath Lotho Minor's surface and subsisting off trash and vermin for over a decade."
A little confused over why, in trying not to overuse pronouns in this sentence, the proper noun "Maul" is used in place of the second instance of the pronoun not the first. That is, why isn't it "Maul's driving desire to cling to life caused him to rebuild himself..." instead. I think the way it is worded now causes the initial "his" to implicitly mean that it refers to someone other than Maul, even if it's obvious it doesn't. Now personally, given that the subject Maul was just introduced in the previous sentence, I think it's entirely appropriate (even preferable) to just use only pronouns in this sentence, but if you disagree, then I think it should be "Maul's driving desire to cling to life caused him..." instead. In the Legends version, I actually changed "caused" to "pushed" because I somehow think "caused" is too weighty here somehow, like it doesn't capture the meaning precisely, but you don't have to do this if you disagree with it. Sol PacificusFirestorm 01:40, May 15, 2017 (UTC)
  • "Lotho Minor's role as a galactic dumping ground did not encourage any deep exploration of Junker culture or biology, nor did their violent territoriality."
Do you think it would be better to replace "did not encourage" with "discouraged"? I think the difference is that the former implies that Lotho Minor's role as a galactic dumping ground & the Junker's violent territoriality should encourage deep exploration of their culture, and yet somehow they don't for whatever reason aside. Replacing it with "discouraged" would mean that it is because Lotho Minor is a junkyard and the Junkers are territorial and violent that deep exploration is avoided. Sol PacificusFirestorm 01:40, May 15, 2017 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • The fact that the atmosphere was Type I is infobox-exclusive.
  • Regarding both the infobox and the article's body, you should specify what species the atmosphere was breathable for.
  • The Encyclopedia link backups redirect to the Databank.
    • This has been a common problem with the Encyxlopedia backup links for a while now. I've tried talking to admins about it but haven't got anywhere. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 08:52, June 3, 2017 (UTC)
      • For now, we'll have to make do with using the "archivedate" parameter.
        • How do we add that to Template:SWE? - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 09:41, June 12, 2017 (UTC)
          • Each Internet Archive backup link contains the date of the capture in YYYYMMDDHHMMSS format. For example, in the link I added to the Amazon template of this article, it's 20160109024505. When you use a template that has the "archivedate" parameter defined, such as the SWE one, and the normal backup link doesn't work as intended, you add that date of the correct capture as a value for the parameter, like this.
          How does one know the date of the capture? Well, I usually just preview the template with an "archivedate" value that's less than the date of Encyclopedia's shutdown, i.e., July 2014. For example, 20140600000000. Opening the backup link from the preview redirects to the latest archived capture of the page. You can then copy the correct date of the capture from the backup link's URL to the template. Imperators II(Talk) 12:04, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
  • If Lotho Minor is not mentioned in Galactic Atlas, you should explain in the reference(s) how can the events described in the article be dated to 32 and 20 BBY.
    • Dont have my copy right now, but I'll be sure to make those notations as soon as I'm able. It could be a while though. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 23:38, June 6, 2017 (UTC)
      • Finally home; fixed. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 08:39, June 21, 2017 (UTC)
        • The referencing for 20 BBY is alright, but not quite so for 32 BBY. Right now, the ref for 32 BBY explains how Episode I can be dated to 32 BBY. That's not really what's needed - it should be explaining how Maul ending up on Lotho Minor can be dated to 32 BBY. And correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I'm seeing, Lotho Minor's Encyclopedia entry is the only source that actually provides any info on when Maul arrived on Lotho Minor, and it only says he lived there "for over a decade after the Battle of Naboo," which isn't really the same as the precise "in 32 BBY." Imperators II(Talk) 09:24, June 21, 2017 (UTC)
  • How do you feel about creating a canon version of the dismemberment article to be linked to from "severed"?
    • Probably a good idea, but it would be just a stub. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 08:52, June 3, 2017 (UTC)
      • Done. Let the morbidly curious finish out that one. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 23:19, June 6, 2017 (UTC)
  • Is there any article at all for this "mystical talisman"?
  • "He lured Opress into a cave" - any reason why you used "lured" here instead of just "brought"? Did Morley had a hidden agenda?
    • Yes, he lured prey there for Maul. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 08:52, June 3, 2017 (UTC)
  • You should add the "Witches of the Mist" allusion (the {{1stm}}) in the BTS.
  • Can you add a backup link to the Amazon template?
    • How would I go about doing that? - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 23:28, June 6, 2017 (UTC)
      • By pasting the Amazon link here and then putting the archived page link in the template, like this. Sorry, I did it for you this time. :P Imperators II(Talk) 07:22, June 7, 2017 (UTC)
  • Care to create Category:Lotho Minor locations? Imperators II(Talk) 10:52, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • Sorry objections are taking so long; currently traveling and internet access is spotty. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 19:40, June 6, 2017 (UTC)


Caysin Bog

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:13, May 18, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Probably my favourite Rogue One extra.

(1 ACs/0 Users/1 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote How are we supposed to review the article if the guy doesn't even have a head? Imperators II(Talk) 08:45, May 23, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Comments

4D6-J-A7

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:36, May 25, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Yet another character who almost certainly died offscreen in Rogue One.

(1 ACs/1 Users/2 Total)

Support

  1. - Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (Talk) 18:00, May 25, 2017 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 04:47, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Imperators II
  • "like all RA-7 protocol droids was manufactured by Arakyd Industries[1]" - this wording, along with the reference just citing Star Wars Character Encyclopedia, is currently not sufficient, since you can't just reuse that same reference for the manufacturer in the infobox (the Encyclopedia doesn't mention 4D6 and therefore can't be a direct source for her manufacturer). I suggest you move the wording connecting 4D6 to other RA-7s into that ref note.
    • Made both references more detailed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:59, May 25, 2017 (UTC)
  • Does The Ultimate Visual Guide establish the Galactic Civil War as starting before the Battle of Scarif? If not, I suggest you change the wording "during the GCW" to reflect she was present just for the very beginning of the GCW.
    • I always completely forget that none of the stuff in Rebels counts as the Galactic Civil War. Fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:59, May 25, 2017 (UTC)
  • Just want to check, the Citadel Tower article uses the definite article, while this article doesn't. Which one is correct? Imperators II(Talk) 14:26, May 25, 2017 (UTC)
    • I should use the definite article you're right. Fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:59, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Melas (Sarkan)

  • Nominated by: Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 10:47, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: This SE addition has always fascinated me.

(1 ACs/1 Users/2 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote It's nice that you wrote up the Legends article first. Imperators II(Talk) 05:31, June 23, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 01:06, July 19, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Imperators II
  • I'd like to see the intro mention that Melas visited Chalmun's Cantina.
  • The DB backup links need to be fixed. For info on how to do that, see the Lotho Minor nom.
  • If Melas isn't mentioned in The New Essential Chronology, the date should be referenced instead to a note that explains how the date is deduced. Imperators II(Talk) 20:28, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Ayrehead02
  • I'd say you could add a little more information about Melas' placement in the cantina based on the Complete locations book. Maybe that he was sat in a booth to the left of the entrance next to the Duros or something. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:29, July 16, 2017 (UTC)
    • Should I add it to the Star Tours part, which was just recycled footage, or ANH, since that is the specific instance that the Complete Locations book was based on? - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 21:36, July 16, 2017 (UTC)
      • Added it to the ANH section, since it could theoretically be a different booth in ST, even though it isn't. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 22:13, July 16, 2017 (UTC)
        • Annoyingly the Complete locations identifies the Duros by their aliases Baniss Keeg and Ellorrs Madak, so you'll need to reference their actual names to something else. Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:54, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • The Arleil Schous article mentions he was replaced by Melas due to "Lucas' wish". Could this be true, and if so, worth adding? Imperators II(Talk) 20:30, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
    • "Shedding Light on Some Alien Aliases" says this on the matter: "The off-the-shelf canine masks long bothered Lucas, and when it came time to do the Special Editions both aliens were replaced with more elaborate creations." I can add some info to the Bts and source it to this. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 20:55, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
  • SE footage of the cantina scene, including Melas was reused for a Tatooine travel advertisement in Star Tours: The Adventures Continue. Should this be mentioned in the article? - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 21:05, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
    • Ah, it's an IU advert within Star Tours? Then I do think it should be added. Imperators II(Talk) 05:59, June 16, 2017 (UTC)



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