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This page is for the nomination of good articles. This is not a way to showcase the articles of your favorite characters, spaceships, or the like. For a list of Good articles, see Wookieepedia:Good articles.
A Good article is an article that adheres to quality standards, but cannot reach FA status due to its limited content.

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An article must…

  1. …be well-written and detailed.
  2. …be unbiased, non-point of view.
  3. …be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
  4. …follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia.
  5. …following the review process, be stable, i.e., does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.
  6. …not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
  7. …have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic if the length of the article supports it. This may not be appropriate on articles with limited content.
  8. …have no redlinks.
  9. …have comprehensive detail with all information covered from all sources and appearances.
  10. …be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Wookieepedia:Sourcing for more information.
  11. …have all quotes and images sourced.
  12. …provide at least one quote on the article if available. A leading quote at the beginning of the article would be preferred, though not required if no quotes are available. Although quotes may be placed in the body of the article, a maximum of one quote is allowed at the beginning of each section.
  13. …ideally include a "Personality and traits" section on all character articles if information is available.
  14. …ideally include a "Powers and abilities" section for Force-sensitive characters and a "Skills and abilities" section for non–Force-sensitive characters, where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
  15. …include a "Behind the scenes" section for in-universe articles.
  16. …include a reasonable number of images of sufficient quality to illustrate the article, if said images are available.
  17. …counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 250 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc). Alternatively, a good article cannot exceed 1000 words. Articles that do so should be nominated for Featured status.

How to nominate:

  1. First, find an article you find is worthy of good status. Nominated articles must meet all seventeen requirements stated above.
  2. Add {{GAnom}} at the top of the article you are nominating and save the page. NOTE: If the article you are nominating has been nominated for GA one or more times previously, you will need to specify a new subpage name as a parameter in the template (e.g. {{GAnom|Lorum ipsum (second nomination)}}).
  3. Open the redlink (in a new tab or window, if possible) and fill out the form according to the instructions provided.
  4. Copy the code provided to the bottom of this page.
  5. Purge the article to update the template.
  6. Per AgriCorps consensus, nominators are restricted to four nominations on the GAN page at any one time. Once one nomination is removed from the page as either successful or unsuccessful, another can be added.

How to vote:

  1. Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
  2. Afterward, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
    • If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved.
  3. As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Do not strike other users' objections; it is up to the objector to review the changes and strike if they are satisfied.
  4. Once a nomination has a total of five votes, with at least three votes coming from AgriCorps or Inquisitorius members—two of which must be AgriCorps votes—after at least a week since it was nominated (beginning the day of its nomination) and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), the article will be considered a "Good article" and tagged with the {{Eras|good}} template. The talk page will also be tagged with the {{GA}} template. Alternatively, if a nomination receives a total of five AgriCorps/Inquisitorius votes—three of which must be AgriCorps votes—with no outstanding objections before one week has passed, the nomination will be considered successful.
  5. The article is placed on the Good article list.


All nominations will be considered idle and are subject to removal by AgriCorps vote if objections are not addressed after a period of 2 weeks.


Good article nominations

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Voorpee

  • Nominated by: ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:15, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: My first try at a good article nomination. I've checked everything, read it over and all the rules and I think it qualifies, but I guess we'll see.

(1 ACs/3 Users/4 Total)

Support

  1. Manoof (talk) 10:07, February 17, 2015 (UTC)
  2. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 05:22, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
  3. 501st dogma(talk) 16:15, April 12, 2015 (UTC)
  4. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:34, April 15, 2015 (UTC)

Object

Ecks Dee
  • Lacks sourcing throughout.
  • Linking really needs to be checked.
    • Still lacking throughout, particularly past the intro.
      • This still isn't fixed. 1358 (Talk) 22:29, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
  • I'll review it again once these glaring issues have been fixed. 1358 (Talk) 20:22, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
    • I have added additional references on Behind the scenes and added what links I could find. There is really only one reference and one appearance for the main content: Jedi Academy: Return of the Padawan. Are you just saying that I should link it in more places? I do seem to recall though reading that it doesn't need to be referenced in the intro. As for the linking, I think that's about all that can be done, unless you believe that certain items mentioned in the article are worthy of their own articles that haven't been created yet. ProfessorTofty (talk) 00:43, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
      • You need to source everything. Every paragraph, every infobox item, needs a reference. See other GAs for examples. 1358 (Talk) 08:46, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
  • Please use the same layout for pets as for individuals (see Gor for precedent).
  • References go after punctuation. 1358 (Talk) 14:59, October 7, 2014 (UTC)
    • Done and done. Doesn't really have much in the way of a personality, sort of a Star Wars tribble, but I did what I could. As for the linking, again, I really think that's about all that can be done, unless you think maybe something like Roan's journal or the care center would be article-worthy. ProfessorTofty (talk) 18:01, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
      • Still present in the infobox.
  • Please use bullet lists for infobox fields with multiple entries.
  • You don't need to source the name in the infobox.
  • To be honest, I think most of the big glaring issues in this article could be fixed by reading other Good Articles. They should give you a general idea of what a GAN should look like. 1358 (Talk) 22:29, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
    • Objections regarding punctuation and using bullets taken care of. Well, actually, the latter really took care of the former. As for your latter point, I'm looking at Ceasar right now, and it actually seems like you're holding me to a higher standard, as that article has no references or sourcing whatsoever. Anyway, I've answered all of your objections, save the bit about the linking. Again, unless you feel that more links should be added because other subjects are article-worthy, I don't see anything else to be linked. I can't just conjure them. ProfessorTofty (talk) 22:34, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
      • Just interjecting here, Ceasar is an anomaly with the lack of sourcing which will be fixed. All GANs need to be sourced. 501st dogma(talk) 22:49, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
      • Actually, Ceasar gets away with that for historical reasons. A year or two ago, articles with a single source didn't require referencing (although it was still recommended), but that was changed a while ago. Thanks to your observation, it'll probably be on the agenda for the next AgriCorps meeting, as it definitely needs to be fully referenced now. However, look at any other GA and you'll see that they're all (hopefully) completely referenced as they should be. As for linking, what I'm trying to say here is that the intro and the body should work independently. That isn't the case right now—if you disregard the intro, the biography starts off completely abruptly. You should make sure to rewrite the beginning of the intro to properly introduce who Voorpee actually is. As for the linking, since the intro and the body are independent from each other, every subject needs to be linked both in the intro and the body. 1358 (Talk) 22:50, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
        • Okay, sorry that I seized on Ceasar (heh), but I was looking for an example of another named pet that was a good article, and that was the one that came up at the top. Anyway, I think I'm really starting to get this now. I've made updates to both the intro and main body and I think, hope, that all problems should be squared away now. ProfessorTofty (talk) 18:54, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
  • Does Coruscant really count as homeworld in the infobox if he was only on loan?
  • Is there any sort of timeline given in the source material? If yes, specify. If no, how do we know it's Rise of the Empire era?
  • A lot of things are mentioned in your article with any sort of context. As a general rule, most things require at least some context. I'm just looking at the intro right now, and the first sentence requires context for Coruscant and Roan. Please go over the article and give context to things when they're first mentioned. 1358 (Talk) 20:30, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
    • Regarding the first point-- well, he spent nearly a year there, if not longer, so it really became a sort of home. The article for homeworld states that it could be a world that one migrated to. Still, if you feel it's stretching the point, I could just remove it. Regarding the second question-- yes. In the first book, it is stated that Yoda is 700 years old. So we've sort of been running with that for articles related to the series. In any case, the series does clearly depict a pre-Clone Wars Yoda. I can try to add a more specific citation, though, if you feel one is necessary. (Edit-- never mind, I just went ahead and added the direct reference.) Last point-- all right, that one I'll work on, should have done in a couple days at most. ProfessorTofty (talk) 22:31, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
      • I'd say that if he only was on loan there, it's a bit of a stretch to call it a homeworld. It would be another thing if he moved there permanently.
        As for the timeline reference, that's a start, but you definitely need to elaborate more. Something like "In source 1, Yoda is said to be 700 years old. source 2 states Yoda's birth year as X BBY, which means the events of source 1 take place around Y BBY". Don't use my exact wording, but you probably get the concept. 1358 (Talk) 19:17, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
        • Coruscant as homeworld removed per suggestion. Reference regarding Rise of the Empire Era improved to make it clear why that period as specified. I've also added the context requested, explaining more clearly what the Jedi academy at Coruscant was and who the various characters referenced such as Roan and Gaiana were. I hope these will be enough to finally push the article to where it needs to be to achieve status. ProfessorTofty (talk) 18:41, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
        • P.S.: I've also added two new images and quotes. ProfessorTofty (talk) 15:02, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
          • While you're getting there, this isn't exactly the context I'm looking for. Generally subjects in the intro need less context than the body. Remember that the body should work independently from the intro, which means you'll need to provide context in both instances. I suggest you move the context on Jedi academy to the body. What I'm looking for is really a word or two explaining subjects you introduce. For example, when you mention Coruscant, tell the reader it's a planet. It's not much, but it's something. Who is Yoda? Tell the reader. 1358 (Talk) 11:28, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
            • Okay. I've gone through the article and I've tried to expand and explain on anything that might require context. I think I've tried to provide a good balance of providing good information without going into too much detail. For example, I'm assuming that I don't need to explain to readers that "the Force" is a field of energy that binds and penetrates the Galaxy, given that, say, Force speed doesn't do so. If there's anything else that needs done, I think I need specifics at this point. Also, I was wondering, do you agree with the recent addition of "Infinities" to the Eras tag for the article? Because, if so, then it applies by extension to every other article in the series. I'd been leaving it out because it was not originally included on the entries for those books, nor is included on articles on subjects for things such as the LEGO Star Wars series. ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:59, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
              • Apologies for the delay. The reason why I added the Infinities tag in the eras was because the header template said so, but if it's not explicitly labeled Infinities, then go ahead and remove it.
  • You could probably expand the intro with a short mention of what the bullies did instead of leaving it at a cliffhanger.
  • No timeline established in the body. 1358 (Talk) 19:51, November 19, 2014 (UTC)
    • No biggie about the delay. Thank you for taking the time to review the article again! As for the Infinities thing-- that bit about Infinities always appears on the non-canon template. Personally, I think it needs to be removed or clarified-- "Infinities" is a branding term and not a general purpose catch-all for "non-canon." See this here. Anyway, I went ahead and added a brief bit in the intro explaining the bullying and I've modified the body to more clearly establish a timeline. ProfessorTofty (talk) 00:06, November 20, 2014 (UTC)
      • Not quite what I meant in regards to timeline; please see my next objections. 1358 (Talk) 20:16, November 30, 2014 (UTC)
  • The lead quote: The proper plural form of Padawan is Padawans, not Padawan. If this is quoted correctly, please add a [sic] tag in the quote.
  • The biography starts off a bit rushed. You could probably end the sentence after his homeworld and then talk about his loan in the next one. Also see the following objection, which has some relevance for this one.
    • Check your sourcing here. You're currently sourcing the entire first sentence of the bio to the age reference, which is obviously incorrect. Please rectify. Also note that you have two consecutive [1] references in the bio; I believe one of them should simply be removed. As an aside, I believe Naboo's location in the Mid Rim needs a separate source as well. 1358 (Talk) 12:55, December 5, 2014 (UTC)
      • Okay, those objections are handled. Better referencing for the first sentence, source for Mid Rim and no more two consecutive of the same reference. ProfessorTofty (talk) 15:48, December 5, 2014 (UTC)
  • When I said timeline, I was actually talking about the dates that we went over earlier. As it is, the Rise of the Empire era and the nice date reference is exclusive to the infobox. This needs to be in the bio as well. My suggestions is something like "Around 200 years before the Battle of Yavin[date reference goes here], Voorpee was temporarily in loan..."
  • I've added a bunch of {{Fact}} tags to the bio.
    • Number 1: Is it stated in the source that the temple was the Jedi HQ? If not, please find a source.
    • Number 2: Find an appropriate source for rank of Jedi Master. As a side note, I tweaked his context a bit.
    • Number 3: "Powerful" sounds like POV, Unless it's explicitly stated in the source that they were training under powerful Jedi, you should probably remove the word altogether.
      • I feel like the context you added is a bit unnecessary and unrelated to Voorpee. See if something like "and various other Jedi, including Mr. Garfield and Principal Mar. As a side note, should Principal Mar's article be at simply Mar? 1358 (Talk) 12:55, December 5, 2014 (UTC)
        • Regarding the first point, sure. That's done. As for the second, the character is invariably referred to as "Principal Mar." And Mar is currently a disambiguation. Still, if you really feel the article should be at "Mar," then I suppose that could be done and the current contents moved to "Mar (disambiguation)." Though, personally, I think it would be okay, similar to how we list Maul as "Darth Maul" and not simply "Maul." ProfessorTofty (talk) 15:01, December 5, 2014 (UTC)
          • I feel like Mar should indeed be at Mar (principal) or similar. 1358 (Talk) 00:29, December 26, 2014 (UTC)
            • Okay, I'll move it, though I'm still not sure exactly why, given that Maul is "Darth Maul" and not "Maul (darth)." No further objections, then, regarding anything else in the article? ProfessorTofty (talk) 19:57, December 28, 2014 (UTC)
  • You should probably move the "Arriving with the class at the beginning of the school year," to an earlier point as it's a bit confusing when you first talk about Gaiana caring about Voorpee and then suddenly mentioning Voorpee arriving.
  • More to come once these are fixed. You show good persistence in handling objections, keep it up. 1358 (Talk) 20:16, November 30, 2014 (UTC)
    • Oh, no problem. I definitely plan to keep going until we get this done and I think it'll really help me with going ahead with future good or featured articles. Anyway, I just answered one of your objections and have added "[sic]" to the quote. The rest will have to wait until I'm able to consult my copies of the books, probably sometime tomorrow. ProfessorTofty (talk) 19:09, December 2, 2014 (UTC)
      • Objections answered, I think. I've referenced Yoda being a Master; that comes straight from the Jedi Academy books. I also added context for them training under "powerful" Jedi, which I believe is fully supported by them training under Masters like Yoda and Mr. Garfield. Other objections handled. The edits did introduce one redlink, Principal Mar, which I believe is permissible under the GA rules, and heck, I'll just go ahead and create the article. ProfessorTofty (talk) 11:28, December 5, 2014 (UTC)
Manoof
  • "Using Force power..." (2nd paragraph) may need to be tweaked. What force power? (force sense?) if we don't know then it should probably just say "Using the Force..." or "Using a Force power..."
    • Since it's not really clear, I changed it to "using a Force power." ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:52, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
  • "Roan thought that he might have used the Force to figure out what happened." you might want to specify it was Yoda who may have used the force as it is a bit ambiguous.
    • Changed to read "thought that Yoda might have..." ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:52, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
  • You have a picture of vorpee in gammy's kitchen, but there is no mention of this in the article. I'd recommend removing that image. Manoof (talk) 10:06, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
    • It's the only color image of the character available and the fact that no such scene is described in the book is the reason I specifically put the image in the "Behind the scenes" section and not somewhere in the plot summary or anywhere else like that. But if you absolutely feel it shouldn't be there, I'll remove it. ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:52, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
      • Personally I'd probably remove one of the last 3 images, the last bit of the article seems image heavy but it's up to you (hence why I've struck this). Manoof (talk) 10:07, February 17, 2015 (UTC)
Floyd
  • I don't think you need the subsections in the bio. When there's only one paragraph for one, you could probably just dump them altogether.
    • Hmm, well, I'm trying to follow standard format, but alright. I removed them. ProfessorTofty (talk) 03:50, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
      • Usually for GA-length articles you aren't gonna need them. The bios are going to be short enough that they don't need to be subdivided for readability. IFYLOFD (Talk) 05:22, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • Secondly: image placement. I'd advise you take out the last image of Voorpee in the kitchen—such a short article doesn't really need that many images, especially having two right up against each other like that.
    • I still really hate to lose the only color image, but okay, it's done. ProfessorTofty (talk) 03:50, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • Dump the ampersands, we don't use those.
  • Roan, at least, I know has a last name—use that instead of his first.
    • Feels kinda odd to refer to everyone else by first names but use a last name for just one character, but that's done, except for those instances where I've used his full name. ProfessorTofty (talk) 03:50, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
      • Yeah, that's standard procedure. Last names always, except when there are multiple people floating around with the same one. IFYLOFD (Talk) 05:22, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • Sorry you had to wait forever for people to review this. This isn't bad for a first go-around, keep at it. IFYLOFD (Talk) 01:59, February 27, 2015 (UTC)
    • No biggie - thank you for reviewing it now! ProfessorTofty (talk) 03:50, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
501st
  • " Roan Novachez, a second year student who had something of a crush on Gaiana, was scared by the bugs, something that she found "cute." " Um, I`m not really seeing how this is necessary in the article. I know Voorpee gets fed bugs, but I still don`t think this is needed. The sentence before it could go too, as it just describes one person`s feelings about the subject, but I`ll leave that up to you.
    • Removed the second sentence, but I think I will keep the first, as it is an example of the reaction the character inspires in other characters.
  • Context for Hoth in the body.
    • Context added. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:09, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
      • Can you actually source Hoth as being in the Outer Rim to [1]? 501st dogma(talk) 21:14, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
        • No, good catch. Went ahead and sourced it to the source for that used in the Hoth article. ProfessorTofty (talk) 21:44, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
  • Don`t use contractions such as didn`t and wasn`t in your writing. I see a couple in the body.
    • Personally, I think this is an archaism and there's nothing in either the Layout Guide or the Manual of Style saying not to use them, but okay. I removed them. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:09, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
      • Pretty sure that was a rule, but I could be imagining things. 501st dogma(talk) 21:14, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
  • The pet`s hair color should be mentioned in the P&T.
  • "Novachez, trying to act as if he wasn't bothered, said that they would go do something "fun" instead." This sentence is a bit too play by play for me. Please take it out, as I don't think that it is important.
    • Removed, but modified the previous sentence to state that the chastisement had no effect. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:09, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
  • I notice you use a lot of quotation marks around standard words and phrases in your writing. You can probably remove most of these. For example, you have quotations around cute noises in the P&T, which I'm assuming is from the source. For the "cute noises", you can remove the quotations since the reader knows what you mean by cute noises, and quotations marks don't add anything. On the other hand, for the "walk" part the marks could be kept, because the bullies aren't actually just taking him for a walk. Not sure if that makes sense. 501st dogma(talk) 13:37, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
    • No, I think I get that and I removed the quotation marks around cute noises. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:09, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
  • It looks like you'll have to reload your infobox.
    • Hmm, when did that happen? Ah well. Fixed. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:30, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
  • The Naboo Zoo isn't actually linked to in the body, and is mentioned at the very end of the Bio, which doesn't help explain that it was on loan from the zoo.
    • Added in the body that he was on loan from the Naboo Zoo and linked htat. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:30, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
  • "Voorpee first appeared in Jedi Academy: Return of the Padawan. He is the only pet seen to date in the Jedi Academy series and one of several pet voorpaks within the Star Wars franchise, others being Dotty,[9] Sanani[10] and Taezii.[11]" You're going to need a ref before Dotty, as as it is currently you're sourcing Voorpee appearing in Jedi Academy to SW Galaxies. 501st dogma(talk) 01:24, April 9, 2015 (UTC)
    • Added in a reference to Return of the Padawan to clarify that. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:30, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • Your linking is still missing in a few places, e.g male needs to be linked to sexes in the intro and the 200 could probably be linked to 200 BBY. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:47, April 4, 2015 (UTC)
  • I don't think the bio needs a single subtitle since it isn't split into multiple sections. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:47, April 4, 2015 (UTC)
    • Ah, that's a relic from when it was previously split into sections. I removed it. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:09, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
  • "a number of Padawans trained here under", is here the correct tense? It sounds weird. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:47, April 4, 2015 (UTC)
    • Pretty sure it's the correct tense. Sounds okay to me. I'm not really sure what else it could be. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:09, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
  • Probably a so fix it but shouldn't "rescue a hungry Voorpee" be the hungry Voorpee? Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:47, April 4, 2015 (UTC)
    • I think either might be acceptable, but I decided to go with "rescue the hungry voorpak," which definitely sounds right by my ear. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:09, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

Comments

  • Also, just FYI, as this is your first nomination, I'm going to be more "harsh" in my review. Some of the objections are things I'd normally fix in my copy-edit, but it's probably for the better if you go through them and fix the issues so that you know what's expected from a GAN. In addition, it's a good idea to go through the edit history of the article and look at the copy-edits other people do. The changes will give you a good idea of what's expected from a GAN. 1358 (Talk) 11:28, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
  • So I guess Xd and I have sort of been collaborating on this, but seeing as he's just gone away for six months, could someone else come in on this? I think things are close here. As far as I know, all of the outstanding objections have been answered, but if anyone else has any, I'd be happy to fix them. ProfessorTofty (talk) 11:51, January 8, 2015 (UTC)
    • Do not worry, ecks will be here this weekend. I will review this too soon. Winterz (talk) 17:20, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
      • (Totally not late or anything) Unfortunately due to my military service I am unable to continue this review. I've struck my last objection (which I had totally forgotten about, sorry about that). Cheers and good luck with the nomination. 1358 (Talk) 18:09, April 10, 2015 (UTC)


Escape from Darth Vader

  • Nominated by: ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:30, December 8, 2014 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I have been working hard on this one and I think it's ready to go. I've got plot summary, plenty of background info, images, etc. The only thing I'm slightly unsure about is the source in the development. I know Wookieepedia isn't normally a source, but I think in this case it's acceptable because it's referencing the page history simply to prove that the Amazon link is a match; that it proves that the same link that existed then exists now. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:30, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

(2 ACs/4 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:48, January 18, 2015 (UTC)
  2. 501st dogma(talk) 00:59, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
  3. Looks good! Manoof (talk) 11:41, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
  4. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 19:20, March 21, 2015 (UTC)
  5. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:38, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Winterz (talk) 03:09, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Object

Brandon

  • Right off the bat - the sections were in the wrong order. I fixed it, but please keep the Out of Universe Layout Guide for published narrative works in mind in the future.
  • Is there no information anywhere about the creation/development of this book? No author interviews or tweets or anything? The development section, as it currently stands, is all about the release. Obviously if that's all there is then that's fine.
  • Are there no reviews from significant sources that you can use for a reception section?
  • Also, Wookieepedia is definitely not a source in this context. For all we know, that information was wrong. That will need to either be sourced or removed.
  • More later, if I find anything. Brandon Rhea(talk) 23:58, December 8, 2014 (UTC)
    • Regarding point 1: I was actually using an existing good article for a book as a model for the order of the sections. It would seem that one then has them out of order. I'll have to go back and fix that one later, but thank you for fixing this one. Regarding point 2, given its being a somewhat minor children's book, I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't, but I'll research this one and report back here. Regarding point 3 - good idea. I'll add that. As for the last point, hmm. Okay. This is going to take some digging, but I'll try to find something with a date attached to it regarding the book going that far back. I'll try to take care of all of this tomorrow. In the meantime, any other objections or thoughts from anyone else are welcome. ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:31, December 9, 2014 (UTC)
      • Thanks. Remember, when it comes to things like what I mentioned in the first point, your first stop to figure out how it should be are Wookieepedia policies, not existing articles. They may have been written before policies were updated/created, issues may have been missed, etc. Existing status articles are a good guide for new nominations, and I’ve used then myself, but the policies trump existing status article in regards to how you should do it. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 01:51, December 9, 2014 (UTC)
        • Yeah, I'll definitely make sure to do that in the future. Okay, point 2: there is nothing. Nothing. Michael Siglain has a Twitter, but started in May of this year and says nothing on about this book. Neither does Roux on hers. I couldn't find anything else, anywhere, whatsoever. Point 3: Reception section added. Point 4: Ee. This really stings, but again, there's nothing. I couldn't grab anything off of Internet Archive and I couldn't find anything else anywhere that proves that that listing was there at that time. Information removed. ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:40, December 9, 2014 (UTC)
  • It should be noted: items in the Appearance section should be listed alphabetically, not by order of appearance. I've fixed the Appearances section to reflect.
  • Also regarding the Appearances section, it seems a bit lacking. You mention in the summary, for example, that the ship is pursued by a Star Destroyer (via a link to the ISD page) but that's not in the Appearances section. Please check through the Appearances section and add anything that's missing.
  • Having not read the book, the plot summary seems light on details. Please expand it to include a more detailed summary of the story. Additionally, can you clarify (on this review page) at what point in A New Hope that the story ends? The publisher's summary, for example, mentions Luke, yet your plot summary doesn't.
  • Your linking was a bit inconsistent; sometimes you'd like to something a few times after it was mentioned, or even not at all. I've fixed this as well. Check out the diffs to see what I did.
  • More later, if I find anything. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 03:00, December 21, 2014 (UTC)
    • Thank you for fixing this.
    • The Appearances section is lacking because the book is small. I've added Imperial-class Star Destroyer, but see more my next bullet-point. I will also check the book again just to be absolutely sure, but I really doubt I missed much of anything else. It may have to wait a day or two, though, because I checked it out from the library and I'll have to get it back from there.
    • Having read the book, the plot summary is light on details because the book is light on details. Visit the links and check out the preview pages; you'll see that each page has at most two sentences; some have less than one sentence. If I added anymore detail, I might as well just reprint the content of the book. The story ends with R2 and C-3 landing on Tatooine, followed by a page that presents several of the characters as illustrations, simply as a way of saying "here's what's coming next in the story." The bit about them "meeting Luke" is publisher puffery - that doesn't happen in this book.
    • Thank you for fixing that also! Not sure why I didn't notice that myself, but I checked over your edits. ProfessorTofty (talk) 15:37, December 21, 2014 (UTC)
      • Plot summary updated with a few additional details. I don't think I can do anymore than that without basically just plagiarizing the book. Appearances updated, mainly just starship classification and a couple of other miscellaneous items. Two other Appearance items considered but rejected due to being unable establish notability - "Binary star" and "Cloak." ProfessorTofty (talk) 00:03, December 30, 2014 (UTC)
501st
  • I'm assuming the book doesn't mention Devastator by name, but it should be pipelinked to in the body. Also, it should be added to the Appearances section.
    • You're right, it doesn't mention it by name. I've added it to the Appearances, but I'm not sure how can work it into the body and pipelink it. Should I just mention it by name in the body? ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:59, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
      • Yeah, that would work.
  • You'll need to find somewhere in the body to add that it is 32 pages long, as that is infobox exclusive info right now. I'd place it in the Development section. Author, cover artist and illustrator also needs to be mentioned in the body, preferably in the Development.
    • Okay, that's all done. Cover artist is the same as the illustrator, do I need to mention that specifically, or will just saying that Roux illustrated it do? ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:59, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
      • That'll do just fine.
  • That last part of the Continuity section will have to be sourced.
    • Is it okay now? I just took the Amazon links to the two titles and placed them both at the end. ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:59, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
  • I'd recommend sourcing the article to itself, like here, just so that you can fully source the article. It helps show what info is from what, and avoids the ambiguity currently present when you don't source a section, making the reader wonder if it's from the book, or someone forgot to source it. 501st dogma(talk) 22:04, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
    • So would simply source it as The Rebellion Begins? And should that be at the end of the Plot summary section? ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:59, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
      • Not sure what you mean by the Rebellion Begins, but just source all facts that come directly from the book (i.e plot) to Escape from Darth Vader. 501st dogma(talk) 02:58, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
        • Haha, I had The Rebellion Begins on the brain because I'd been addinga lot of Appearance information to it. Anyway, that's now done. The book itself is referenced at the end of the Plot summary section. ProfessorTofty (talk) 03:44, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
          • Timeline, ISBN, and series fields in the infobox can probably be sourced to itself as well. 501st dogma(talk) 17:45, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
            • Timeline and series done. ISBN cannot be done, on this or any other page. Attempting to do so breaks the infobox. ProfessorTofty (talk) 00:09, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
Floyd
  • There are some things in the intro that require context: for instance, the Tantive IV, the Star Destroyer (which I would name) and the two droids.
    • Added material to give context. Alright now? ProfessorTofty (talk) 17:58, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
  • C-3PO and R2D2 must keep Darth Vader from discovering the Rebels' secret plans!" Is R2D2 written this way in the actual summary?
  • I'd also toss a mention of the author into the intro. IFYLOFD (Talk) 04:32, March 16, 2015 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • I've not reviewed many out of universe articles but should the Battle of Yavin timeframe be infobox exclusive? Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:42, April 4, 2015 (UTC)
    • You know, I'm not really sure. Perhaps precedent would be helpful in this case, but I don't know off-hand of any other good or featured articles for books like this. However, I did add a line at the end of the plot summary regarding the book's events being part of ones key to the future of the Alliance, and linked to the Galactic Civil War. How's that? ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:53, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
      • I still think a direct mention of the Battle of Yavin in the body somewhere might be better. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:38, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
        • Okay, I added a direct mention in there at the end. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:02, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Comments

  • I will say that it might be worth going through the book and adding every appearance, there's a lot of things on wookieepedia that might not occur to you. For example, if an imperial officer is pictured, you can link to Imperial officer's tunic/Canon, Imperial officer's uniform/Canon, Hat/Canon and Boot/Canon (since Durasteel-toed boots are not canon) to name a few. If the binary star was pictured only, you can always add the {{Po}} tag :) Manoof (talk) 20:03, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
    • That's not a bad idea. Might be worth one more look through to make sure that anything minor like that hasn't been overlooked. I'll check it out ASAP. Still can't do "binary star" though, unless that term is used somewhere in canon that I don't know about. That's the reason I didn't include it before, because as far as I know it doesn't qualify for a canon article. ProfessorTofty (talk) 22:49, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
      • I have another copy of the book waiting for me at the library and will check it out sometime this week and do a final once-over to make sure there isn't anything missed that could be in Appearances. ProfessorTofty (talk) 03:26, March 2, 2015 (UTC)


Vizam/Canon

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:29, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: My first nomination from the films! This might take a while.

(2 ACs/2 Users/4 Total)

Support

  1. Manoof (talk) 20:10, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Assuming the still-pending objections are complied with. Winterz (talk) 02:46, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
  3. Nivlacanator(talk) 04:54, April 30, 2015 (UTC)
  4. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 02:36, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

Object

Manoof
  • There's several redirects on the page.
    • I didn't realise we'd merged those pages, fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:56, February 21, 2015 (UTC)
  • A few things missing context - Nikto in the bio (as a species) and Jabba in the infobox (as a hutt) as examples. [User:Manoof|Manoof]] (talk) 12:05, February 21, 2015 (UTC)
    • Done, although context generally isn't needed for infobox. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:56, February 21, 2015 (UTC)
  • Could we get a year for the CCG in the BTS?
  • Just had a look and it appears Vizam is on the cover of Rescue from Jabba's Palace which won't be released till the end of April. I'm not sure if it's ok to add that as an appearance due to his being on the cover, but thought I'd let you know. Manoof (talk) 22:49, February 21, 2015 (UTC)
    • Is there an alternate cover? The one we have on our article has Kithaba and Pagetti Rook on it with two Gamorreans, but I can't see Vizam anywhere. I'll be certain to check the book once it actually comes out though don't worry. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:10, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
      • My mistake, I didn't look close enough ^^' Manoof (talk) 20:10, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
  • You could probably mention in the P&T about him going to watch Oola being devoured by the Rancor.
  • I don't think the movie identifies the pistol as a DL-18.
    • Referenced to the Rebels visual guide. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:10, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • Similarly, are the laser cannon and skiff identified as such in the movie?
    • Referenced skiff to 100 scenes, as for laser cannon I was just using it as a generic term based on appearance, should I change it to blaster turret or something? Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:10, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
      • Hmmm, I'm going to ask around about the laser cannon question.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 20:39, March 15, 2015 (UTC)
  • Do we know that he was trying to hit Calrissian from the movie?
    • You see Vizam place the gun, then it cuts to Calrissian and Vizam fires, hitting very close to Calrissian. Given that the other Rebels are all at the complete opposite end of the skiff, Calrissian seems like the only obvious target but I can remove it if that doesn't seem like enough. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:10, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • Does Star Wars Costumes: The Original Trilogy provide in-universe information? I want to make sure that the information about his costume isn't all out-of-universe.
    • This was something I debated with myself for a while. The source is an out of universe description of the costume, but I've included the terms like kimono and tabard as they are more accurate to a source then if I just said shirt, since that would be based on anything other than how it looks. I can change it if you'd prefer but I'm not sure what I'd change it too except for saying something like garments. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:10, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
      • If the source does not use those terms in an in-universe fashion, I do not believe they should be used in the main body. You could mention the specific real-world terms in the BTS though.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 20:39, March 15, 2015 (UTC)
        • Ok, I've moved the clothing entirely to the bts and left it out of the body. Should I still add anything to the body about clothes? It seems redundant given the bts detail.Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:51, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure if Aveleyman counts as a reliable source. You can probably include this information if you have the actor information in its own sentence and say something like: "According to the fan website Aveleyman..."
    • I wouldn't even say that at all, and would look for more reputable sites that mention Paul Weston was Vizam, or autographs in that regard. I don't consider Aveleyman reputable unless it has comparison photos of the actors and characters (wouldn't apply to Vizam). I feel the same with IMDB. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 23:38, February 21, 2015 (UTC)
      • All right, if that's the case, then another source should be found.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 23:41, February 21, 2015 (UTC)
        • I've changed it to directly mention aveleyman in behind the scenes for now, but if it isn't allowed as a reference at all then quite a few other status articles need to be changed. Spending just a minute or two looking I've already found that Hurst Romodi and Sim Aloo reference Aveleyman and Lorth Needa and Romas Navander reference IMDB. There are also certainly others. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:10, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
          • Romodi and Sim's Aveleyman actor pages also have pictures of the actors attributed to playing them, and it is a duck test case with those two. And the IMDB ones should be changed. For both the latter two, I know that there are plenty of other more reputable sites to source that info. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 16:08, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
            • A quick Google search will show that there are other sites which include Paul Weston autographing pictures of Vizam, those should be used instead of Aveleyman. Please find at least one of those. And the problem with IMDB and Aveleyman is they are both fan-edited and might not always be accurate. Take Bolvan and Hija on Aveleyman. It appears John Forgeham, who was previously thought, and even thought of himself as Hija, was in fact confirmed to be Bolvan, while Hija was in fact played by John Wreford. But Aveleyman says Bolvan was played by David Fennell (don't know how, and failed to see anything outside Aveleyman mentioning that), and still says Forgeham played Hija. As for IMDB, I know in the past it listed Cy Town as a stormtrooper in ANH, when in fact Cy Town was said to have never been a stormtrooper. I see that's no longer there, but what we can clearly see is that unverified info can make it onto both sites. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 16:25, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
              • Upon looking more carefully, it appears here that Paul Weston only mentioned playing Vedain in RotJ, and that was it. It also appears that he's autographed Lathe's CCG card too, but that can't be really him. I'll leave you to interpret that interview, and if you come to the same conclusion that Paul Weston couldn't have been Vizam, please check linking pages to get rid of anything else claiming that to be the case. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 16:36, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
                • Good catch, your definitely right he pretty clear states he didn't play anyone else. I'll remove the info and just leave it as an uncredited extra. Just to be clear I was happy to change the reference from aveley as well, but just wanted to point out that this might be an issue that needs addressing beyond the scope of this nomination. Ayrehead02 (talk) 17:19, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • Could you add release years for Episode VI and the Decipher set?
  • There seems to be a lot of context in the article than information that pertains to Vizam. I know a lot of this is necessary to knowing what is going on, but think it could be condensed slightly.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 23:36, February 21, 2015 (UTC)
    • I've cut down the bit about Boushh, but other than that I'm struggling to find stuff to remove. Are they any other parts in particular you'd cut? Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:10, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
      • The first paragraph does not really have a lot of information related to the character and could condensed some to just give the important details. The stuff where he is just there watching could probably be pared down slightly as well. my next objection fits into this as well.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 20:39, March 15, 2015 (UTC)
        • Cut down the first paragraph and merged it with the second. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:51, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
  • There is also a lot of play-by-play information that needs to be cut down. You need to talk about the events related to the character, but the wording should be condensed.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 20:39, March 15, 2015 (UTC)
    • Ok I've severely cut down the body to remove play by play and unnecessary info. Is it better now? Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:51, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
Hanzo
  • I'm going to make a formal preliminary objection to actually look through the pages that link to Vizam and get rid of the misinformation about Paul Weston playing the character. While this might be a sofixit, I have seen in the past you made the mistake of not checking pages linking to Grunda Dolma to make sure there was nothing else mentioning the character's unconfirmed death. This seems to be a common oversight for Wookieepedians, but I think more vigilant measures should be taken when working on an article, particularly one that had unverified info at any point that has the tendency to spread to other articles on the site. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:46, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
    • Removed it from the Paul Weston page and couldn't find it anywhere else. Also weirdly the Kensaric page claims Weston played that character as well. Ayrehead02 (talk) 02:16, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
      • Okay good. Yeah I worked on the Kensaric article, and I added that thing myself from seeing his autograph. The difference is, though, that Kensaric was among the strike team members who, from what I could tell, was never in the film itself. Thus I find no contradiction with Paul Weston's words that he played no other role in the film. He just simply wore a commando outfit onset, but was never actually filmed in that outfit. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 04:51, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
Floyd
  • "who chose to move forward and watch the slave girl Oola being eaten by the rancor." I kinda get what you're going for here, but this is worded very awkwardly. What does this say about Vizam's personality?
    • Reworded. I feel that willingly watching someone get eaten alive definitely says something about your personality, although I didn't want to speculate exactly what since Vizam could be watching eagerly and enjoying it or out of horror but we have no way of knowing. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:13, April 30, 2015 (UTC)
  • Could use a touch more context on Solo/Leia/Luke in the intro - mention that they were Rebels when you first introduce them, and why Han was imprisoned.
  • "when she defied Jabba." How?
  • The way you introduce Leia in the body is very backwards. I think you should mention Han first, then mention that Leia is coming to rescue him and that claiming the bounty on Chewie is part of that plot right away.
    • Reworded it. Although introducing Han first seemed more awkward so I introduce him earlier but still after Leia. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:13, April 30, 2015 (UTC)
  • Is "Jabba's Palace" capitalized that way in any new canon source material? The article's at Jabba's the Hutt's palace.
  • Link to the helmsman?
    • He's Vedain, but given that he hasn't been named in canon yet we can't make an article for him due to our current policy on conjectural canon articles. As soon as he's renamed I'll make the article and add it. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:13, April 30, 2015 (UTC)
  • I actually think the Equipment section could contain some of the info of his uniform that you have in the BtS instead. IFYLOFD (Talk) 04:56, April 30, 2015 (UTC)
    • I've added a cut down version of the description which doesn't include any of the names of clothing items which haven't been confirmed in universe like Kimono or tabard, since EJ wasn't happy with their use. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:13, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Comments

  • I've checked through the various behind the scenes books and couldn't find any information pertaining to Vizam. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:29, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
  • Gender has been left out of the article since I'm not sure if based on current canon information we can tell a Nikto's gender based on appearance. To be honest there's barely even any female Nikto in legends. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:29, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
  • Updated for Star Wars Costumes: The Original Trilogy. Ayrehead02 (talk) 07:34, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
    • That appears to confirm he's male. If so, please update accordingly. If you don't think Phil Tippett's word is solid enough proof, then get rid of the gendered pronouns and either way don't make these careless mistakes again. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 19:30, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
      • The text in the book does not refer to Vizam or Wooof specifically as male, always calling the character just "this Nikto" or something similar. The quote given is in reference to the production process of the Nikto and Wooof costumes in general, and so doesn't necessarily show Vizam's gender. Gendered pronouns removed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:27, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
  • Note: After rewatching the intro for the dozenth time I've noticed another appearance which I somehow previously missed and have added it to the bio accordingly. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:09, February 21, 2015 (UTC)


Crispus Commons

  • Nominated by: ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:29, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I had actually intended to reply to the remaining objections yesterday, but I got distracted and then today the original nomination was closed like snap for them not being answered... so, yeah. To review, the unaswered objections were as follows, along with my responses that I'm adding, having edited the article. The objections listed were all by Ayrehead:


  • You still effectively say that Clone Wars veterans got sent their twice in the same sentence. I'd include the context for the war immediately after you mention it.
    • I have reworded this so that, as far as I can tell, the described problems no longer exist. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:29, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
  • The extra detail on the shelter is good, but you need to mention when he actually returns to it and Hera finds him (if I'm remembering the details correctly).
  • I think the first sentence of the bts now needs to be split.


If anyone needs to see it, the original nomination and the objections/answers are here. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:29, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

(0 ACs/5 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:03, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
  2. Brandon Rhea(talk) 20:57, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
  3. Manoof (talk) 04:22, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
  4. 501st dogma(talk) 17:16, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
  5. Calvin Schubert(talk) 01:38, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

Object

501st
  • "Later, Skelly revisited there to meet with Hera Syndulla..." Is "there" the apartment, or the shelter, as you go on to say that Syndulla notices what he has in the shelter.
    • Edited, and also corrected to clarify that it was actually Hera who had tracked him there, a detail I'm afraid I missed before. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:30, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Last sentence of the Description is more appropriate in the History, ideally before you say that Skelly cleans the mold out.
    • I'm not sure what you mean. The final two sentences of the Description tie into each other, and I don't see how the bit about Dooku relates to Skelly and cleaning out the mold. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:30, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
      • That sentence is purely history stuff, so it should go in the history, not the description. You'll have to reword if of course though, to make it fit.
        • Moved and reworded, I think it should work now. ProfessorTofty (talk) 04:01, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm not really seeing the necessity of having the last sentence of the BTS, as Skelly's living in the Commons is already covered by the body. Kill it please.
  • You have a back to back referencing to [1] in the Description. Please kill the first one, as you only need a single there.
    • Okay, that's done. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:30, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
      • Good, but I'm seeing a back-back ref to 3 in the BtS now (I might have just missed it before).
  • According to our quote policies, you cannot use the current lead quote as a quote, as it is the character thinking something, and not actually saying it. 501st dogma(talk) 20:53, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
    • Ouch. That kinda stings, as I like that quote. Alright, though, done, and moved to the end of the quote in Behind the scenes, though I may go back to the audiobook and record the entire thing so it can be a sound file again. Is a quote needed at the beginning, then? Because I really can't find anything else that anyone specifically says about the apartments. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:30, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
      • If nothing fits, then don't put in a quote. It's like that sometimes with articles, and you end up not having any appropriate quotes. 501st dogma(talk) 17:14, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
  • There should be some connection made between Dooku and Grievous and the Seperatists in the History.
    • Explained that Grievous was the Separatist military commander and Dooku the political leader. ProfessorTofty (talk) 03:44, March 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • The intro is a tad short in comparison to the rest of the article. It could use at least one additional sentence.
    • Added a sentence describing the various features of Crispus Commons. ProfessorTofty (talk) 03:44, March 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • Since you're sourcing most of the BtS, you should source that last part of the last sentence. 501st dogma(talk) 13:56, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
  • It seems your BTS quote is unsourced. 501st dogma(talk) 03:19, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
    • Coding problem-- happened when I transferred the material from the top. Fixed. ProfessorTofty (talk) 03:27, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
Manoof
  • The last few brackets of the infobox need to be on the same line as the last attribute. I've changed it here but keep in mind for future Manoof (talk) 09:59, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • The second sentence of the intro gives the impression that Skelly is the only resident. Maybe change it from "It was the residence of Skelly, a demolitions..." to something like "One of the residents, Skelly, was a demolitions..." Manoof (talk) 09:59, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • "When Skelly attacked Count Vidian trying to draw attention to mining activity Skelly felt could lead to Cynda's destruction..." needs rewording or event splitting that entire sentence into two. You'll notice I cut out the efficiency expert part in the dashes, from my understanding (and I admit I may be wrong) this is like an interjection in the sentence, which continues as normal after. Splitting it might be a better option just for readability. Manoof (talk) 09:59, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • The attribution for the quote seems strange, in that Skelly references himself in his own thoughts? Manoof (talk) 09:59, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
    • I changed it to something more general. Better? ProfessorTofty (talk) 10:10, March 15, 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm not 100% on this, but it might be worth mentioning Rebels was released in 2014 as well. Manoof (talk) 09:59, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • You mention A New Dawn was released in hard cover. The focus on this sentence is on the fact it is hardcover. You could combine that with the previous sentence, something like "Miller, which was published on September 2, 2014 in hardcover." This takes the focus off hardcover and puts it back on the date. Otherwise I'd recommend including a release date for the paperback edition. Manoof (talk) 09:59, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
    • Took your first suggestion and combined it. ProfessorTofty (talk) 10:10, March 15, 2015 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Preliminary objections:
    • Reference 3 needs to employ the Faraway Press citation template.
    • For the social media screenshot in reference 9, you should have uploaded this, not the fan's post. Please re-upload.
    • Wikipedia is no more a reliable source of information for Wookieepedia than it is for an academic work. You will need to find a more reliable source to cite reference 10 to. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 15:15, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

Comments

  • Not an objection, but related to Tope's last objection: You can use [[Wikipedia:ARTICLE TITLE]] to directly link to a Wikipedia article. In the case of the in-text link (not reference 10), the usage of https in the url is displaying a lock symbol; using [[Wikipedia:ARTICLE TITLE]] will remove that graphic. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 15:41, April 14, 2015 (UTC)


Wookiee dual missile turret

  • Nominated by: Manoof (talk) 02:02, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: from CA, double checked against policies

(2 ACs/2 Users/4 Total)

Support

  1. 501st dogma(talk) 01:41, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
  2. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 02:22, February 15, 2015 (UTC)
  3. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:43, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Winterz (talk) 16:19, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

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501st
  • The part about the turret being used in the Clone Wars does not belong in the description. That's history stuff. Likewise with the Trandoshan and Separatist stuff.
    • Moved Manoof (talk) 10:10, January 30, 2015 (UTC)
      • After the move, you're sourcing the entirety of the first sentence to 5, which is incorrect.
        • There was another ref in there
  • It would probably be good to clarify that Kashyyyk was the homeworld of the Wookiees.
  • Infobox: I don't believe the protection field needs to have the Trandoshan and CIS part, as the turret would work against any aerial attack. Just aerial assaults will suffice.
  • GAR, and the Special operations brigade needs to be mentioned in the body, as you have it in the infobox. 501st dogma(talk) 19:50, January 29, 2015 (UTC)
    • Done Manoof (talk) 10:10, January 30, 2015 (UTC)
      • You're sourcing the Special Operations Brigade to 2 in the body, while it's sourced to 3 in the infobox. 501st dogma(talk) 19:40, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
        • Looks like I forgot the referencing when I rewrote that section. Done Manoof (talk) 08:56, February 1, 2015 (UTC)
          • Now you're sourcing GAR and Delta to 3, which isn't appropriate as the note for 3 pertains only to the Special Operations Brigade. 501st dogma(talk) 17:28, February 1, 2015 (UTC)
            • I see what I did there :/ Should be fixed now... Manoof (talk) 05:52, February 2, 2015 (UTC)
Floyd
  • Missing punctuation in the intro quote.
    • Fixed.
  • Are we sure that we can say it's even indirectly mentioned in Order 66? It seems like it just replaces it entirely—that's not an indirect mention, that's a continuity incongruity. IFYLOFD (Talk) 02:32, February 13, 2015 (UTC)
    • Given the differences in physical description as well as the method of fire (turbolaser vs missiles), I'm happy to change it. Not sure if all mention of the book should go, or if a short sentence should be left in the BTS section. I've removed it as an appearance and reworded the BTS in case it stays. Manoof (talk) 10:44, February 14, 2015 (UTC)
Cav
  • I don't think you need the multiple affiliations in the infobox at all; if the weapons were only co-opted by Delta Squad during their deployment, then the weapons aren't really affiliated with them. They only really borrowed what was on hand. I would reduce it to simply "Wookiees."
    • Removed Delta squad's branch in affiliation, and mention of the GAR and SOB. I've kept the republic as an affiliation, since the wookiees were affiliated with the republic. Is that ok? Manoof (talk) 01:08, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
  • "Wookiee turret crafters" appears to be a distinct occupation/group. An article is possibly needed for them. - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 12:54, March 16, 2015 (UTC)
    • Possibly an occupation, though I think that would be speculation. The manufacturer in the guide is listed as "Individually produced by Wookiee turret crafters", while the manufacturers of the bowcaster and wookiee homing rocket are both listed as "Individually manufactured by Wookiee crafters". The wookiee quad turret is listed with "Mass produced by Wookiee crafters". Only the description of the bowcaster mentions a manufacturer—"Wookiee crafters individually manufacture each Bowcaster, and no two bowcasters are exactly alike. However, ammunition clips are all uniform and interchangeable between different bowcasters." As such I don't think an article is needed, since the terms seem to be too vague to have any worthwhile meaning. Up to you though. Manoof (talk) 01:08, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Preliminary objection: It's my opinion, as well as the opinion of other AC members whom I've surveyed, that the archived Republic Commando Lucas Arts page capitalizes the first letters of "Wookie Dual Launcher," even though all the letters are capitalized. The W, D, and L are slightly larger than the other letters in each word, indicating capitalization. The article should reflect this. Note, also, that the website indeed calls it the Wookie Dual Launcher, misspelled. The article also needs to indicate this. Question: What exactly does the game guide call this thing? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:22, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
    • I agree on the capitalization, I decided not to capitalize as I assumed it was perhaps similar to the game guide. The game guide using capitalization for each individual word in the heading, but is later capitalized as the article name in the description, so only Wookiee is capitalized. I've gone ahead and made sure any mention of "Wookiee dual launcher" is now "Wookiee Dual Launcher" and mentioned the misspelling in the BTS. I've assumed the use of the correct spelling of Wookiee to be used every time except the mention in the BTS. Manoof (talk) 05:03, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
      • Ok, you really didn't answer my question, though. What does the game guide call it exactly? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:36, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
        • Sorry, I thought I had. "Wookiee dual missile turret". It's also used in the game, same capitalization. Manoof (talk) 05:00, April 16, 2015 (UTC)
Winterz
  • Cav already brought this up but since he didn't get to reply you, I'm gonna pick it up now. The Wookiees might've been affiliated with the Republic but putting them under Republic looks redundant and irrelevant. I honestly think you should just keep to 'Wookiees' in the affiliation as Cav first suggested.
    • Alright, removed. Manoof (talk) 05:52, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
  • The 'Wookiee Dual Launcher' was only mentioned as such in one source so you should probably replace the {{1stID}} for a simple (as Wookiee Dual Launcher). Winterz (talk) 03:23, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
    • Changed. Manoof (talk) 05:52, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

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Porg

  • Nominated by: Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 16:39, March 20, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Been awhile since a GAnom. This is Porg, another poster child for Families Rallying Against Katarn. See comments.

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  1. 501st dogma(talk) 01:14, April 9, 2015 (UTC)
  2. Sorry, thought I had struck and voted already! ^^' Manoof (talk) 10:19, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

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501st
  • Intro: " the droid information broker hired Porg ..." There is only one true droid information broker..... he is so infamous he goes by no name.....
    • Wow. I can't believe I missed that. The Droid With No Name has since been named in that sentence. Damn, what an oversight on my part. I'm gonna cry in a corner now. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 02:21, April 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • You can't source the date in the infobox just to ERC, as that does not mention him dying. You'll need a double reference here, one from the source and one from ERC (i.e [1][2])
    • I think you mean the TNEC? So it should look like: 5 ABY,[RA][NEC] Nar Shaddaa[RA]? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 02:21, April 2, 2015 (UTC)
      • You know you are using ERC to source a lot when... 501st dogma(talk) 02:38, April 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • "...lest Katarn agree to a demand of the droid's." Wait, the droid info broker of no name doesn't want Katarn agreeing with his demand? That doesn't make sense given the following sentence.
    • Am I using 'lest' wrong? 8t88 does want Katarn to decode the disc, but if Katarn doesn't, he gets killed. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 02:21, April 2, 2015 (UTC)
      • It should be "lest Katarn not agree." 8t88's is planning for contingencies here.
        • I changed it, but somehow I'm still not making the proper connections to understand this. I scratching my head until it bleeds. Wouldn't it be like "8t88 will double cross Katarn if Katarn does not do 8t88's command?" --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:00, April 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • "Porg chose a poor moment to rejoin the fight, and was killed when he got up into crossfire." Waking up and seating up when in sewage is pretty involuntary, so I don't think this tells us much about his character, and can be cut.
  • In the future, note that Sources should just have TCSWE linked, and not the CSWECite, as that is intended for use in referencing. 501st dogma(talk) 02:02, April 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • You're going to have to reload your infobox. 501st dogma(talk) 20:16, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
Manoof
  • "former Rebel Alliance affiliated agent Kyle Katarn" and later "the former agent." both should be clarified—are you saying he used to be a rebel alliance, used to be an agent, used to be an RL agent? The second part makes it seem he is no longer an agent at all, but could also be construed that you are using it as former/latter. Manoof (talk) 08:19, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
    • Sorry, it seems it's bit inconsistent. The novella, as we know, is called Rebel Agent. At the end of Soldier of the Empire and throughout Dark Forces, Kyle is a Rebel Alliance Agent/Mercenary (Again, inconsistent terminology from both the games and the book). In Rebel Agent, it seems to imply (Or even state, think), that Kyle really is no longer affiliated on a technical level, but Mon Mothma still keeps tabs on him. The Nar Shaddaa mission is also mentioned in the audio drama as being a personal mission on the New Republic's time. I think the book even says he is a "former agent," yet still switched between referring to him as either an agent or a rebel (Cuz Rebel Agent, get it?). Due to the fact that Kyle isn't actually working on the behalf of the New Republic on the Dark Jedi matter (According to the novella, game, and audio drama; Mothma pretty much tells Jan Ors to let Kyle do whatever the hell he wants while the NR goes to mess with non Valley of the Jedi related things. Note that Mon, Luke, and Leia discuss getting involved, but then they decide to just let and Kyle and Jan blow sh*t up). So, uh, um... Where was I going... Oh, yah—I refer to Kyle as a former agent during this time as he isn't working for the New Republic technically, and if I refer to him as an agent otherwise, it's just so I don't have to keep calling him Katarn every-time (And to a lesser extent, because the book does it). I hope that clarifies. Or maybe it muddles it up further. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 17:54, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
      • Definitely muggled. I mean muddled :P Maybe get rid of the word "affiliated", it'll flow better. Manoof (talk) 07:42, April 9, 2015 (UTC)
  • Not sure what you mean by "less Katarn not agree to a demand of the droid's". Should less be lest, does this need to be reworded? Manoof (talk) 08:19, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
    • That's supposed to be lest, and it's been changed. It's a leftover from one of my objections. 501st dogma(talk) 16:28, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
  • Please combine the sentences "However, predicting that Katarn may not comply, 8t88 hired a variety of bounty hunters and mercenaries to serve as backup. 8t88 hired Porg, among others." Manoof (talk) 08:19, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
  • It seems like Kyle intentionally shot 8t88's arm off. Was he trying to stop the droid or kill him? Manoof (talk) 08:19, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
    • In the game and novella, Kyle just sort of starts shooting at him, and apparently gets lucky by shooting the arm the disc was carrying. My guess is that he was actively trying to kill, though in the audio drama 8t88 seems to go "Nanana! You can't get me!" and Kyle non-chalantly shoots his arm off, seemingly on purpose, as opposed to a random barrage of fire. Either way, since shooting 88's arm off had little to do with Porg, I wasn't/am not sure if the detail really matters. I figured that what we need to know is that either way, Kyle shot the droid's arm off and went after it, as it carried the disc. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 17:54, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
      • Maybe mention they got in a shootout or something to make it clear Kyle didn't track him down and shoot his arm off. Manoof (talk) 07:42, April 9, 2015 (UTC)
  • I swapped your appearances—they should be in IU chronological order. Since he appeared in both sources (rather than mentioned), the novella, which had the 1st tag, would be first. I MAY be incorrect with this, but that is my interpretation from the Layout Guide—Appearances. Manoof (talk) 08:19, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
    • I'll double check, but I believe the reason for this was that the audio drama actually begins before the novella does. If I'm not mistaken, whatever has the earlier start date goes first. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 17:37, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
      • Ah ok, that would be correct if that's the case. 1st tag would go on the first published. Both articles say they were published on the same day, if that is the case I'd prefer it on the appearance which occurs 1st chronologically. Manoof (talk) 07:42, April 9, 2015 (UTC)
        • I didn't notice those dates, actually. In that case, I think it goes down as {{1st| Simultaneously with etc...}}. I find it odd they would have the same day release, but maybe it isn't. I think I'll dig that up, if possible. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 15:15, April 9, 2015 (UTC)
          • That sounds like a grand plan! I await your results on the investigation! :D Manoof (talk) 07:43, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
            • So. the Dark Horse site lists the publications dates for all of the novellas, both in Hardcover and Softcover formats. Naturally, we'll go with the Hardcover date as it was first. Unfortunately, the Publisher for the audio dramas, HighBridge Audio, only lists the pub date of the Dark Forces: The Collector's Trilogy audio drama (All three audio dramas) as 8/18/1998. The individual CDs have the original publishing years printed on them (Soldier of the Empire - 1997; Rebel Agent - 1998; etc). The website does not list the individual release dates, however, and as such the CD's don't have the exact dates, either. So I got one date, and I'll keep searching for the individual dates, as now I'm curious. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:45, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
              • Hmmm ok. And did the audio drama start at an earlier IU time than the novella? It could render this issue moot :P Manoof (talk) 05:14, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
                • The audio drama starts earlier, in universe. (The novella starts with Morgan Katarn finding the planet Ruusan. The audio drama begins with an Imperial attack that led Katarn and others to Ruusan) --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 17:39, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
  • After emailing High Bridge, I got a list of published works from them, both in and out of print. Unfortunately, the list I was provided only contained a date for the Collector's Trilogy. I't s possible that I was provided a list of products released on CD, as opposed to anything released on a tape (As that's how the individual dramas were released). --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 20:14, April 24, 2015 (UTC)

Comments

Most of the quotes come from the Dark Forces: Rebel Agent audio drama, which means that the punctuation is all guesswork, based on a character's pausing and voice inflections. Also, I've added The Essential Reader's Companion as a source under a suggestion I had from Unidentified Gran (Rimmer's Rest cantina), which mentions that 8t88 had hired bounty hunters. This article is roughly 10 or so words under Featured Article eligibility, so if it goes over it will have to be moved, most likely. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 16:39, March 20, 2015 (UTC)


8-13

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Oh no, you didn't
  • That intro's entrance, re-work it. You gotta be more smooth than that.
  • Also, still in the intro, you start referring to it as "war droid" yet nothing before really pointed to that. Just stay on with the "killer droid" unless you're going to clarify previously that 8-13 is a battle/war droid.
    • I tried to introduce that a bit more clearly. The text explicitly refers to it as a war droid. Page 88 if you have it. If you don't, it's a pretty good book. :) --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 15:34, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
    • I wasn't questioning if it really was a battle droid, only that you had to clarify it so before ;)
  • More to come. Winterz (talk) 03:45, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, now that intro has become too big. Most of those context parts should be trimmed down or cut and used only in the body. Winterz (talk) 15:42, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
  • Due to the rather bold statement that both sources were released simultaneously, you should state and explain that throughoutly in the Bts section ;) Winterz (talk) 16:24, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
    • Okay. I'm working on finding the exact publishing date of the audio drama to verify this, however. High Birdge's audio only lists the audio drama Collector's Trilogy, and not the individual releases. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:07, April 23, 2015 (UTC)
      • After emailing High Bridge, I got a list of published works from them, both in and out of print. Unfortunately, the list I was provided only contained a date for the Collector's Trilogy. I't s possible that I was provided a list of products released on CD, as opposed to anything released on a tape (As that's how the individual dramas were released). --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 20:14, April 24, 2015 (UTC)

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88-R Nightscreamer

  • Nominated by: Manoof (talk) 06:48, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:CA that cleans up good

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  1. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 02:05, April 2, 2015 (UTC)
  2. 501st dogma(talk) 12:18, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
  3. ACvote grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 13:51, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
  4. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 00:11, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

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501st
  • When you say the end of the Bounty Hunter Wars in the body, it would be good to give a date. Not everyone knows off of the top of their head when that was.
  • I don't think restating your ref note about time period in the BtS is necessary. It should probably go.
    • In a conversation with EJ, he suggested it should be included. Manoof (talk) 05:14, April 21, 2015 (UTC)
      • I'm not seeing anything about that on where you linked to. 501st dogma(talk) 00:57, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
        • "You can say in the body that he wrote it before or during 0 ABY. That's really all that can be said without speculation in the body. Then I would suggest mentioning in the BTS that Chentu Chek lived around the same time as Dengar along with a mention of the timeframes where Dengar was active.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 02:35, March 17, 2015 (UTC)" Manoof (talk) 05:24, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
        • And further down... "While it is probably not clear enough to go in the body, Cradossk's intro mentions that the updated edition overviews recently introduced trade tools. This needs to be mentioned somehow in the article; the BTS would probably be the best place." Manoof (talk) 05:25, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
          • It seems I'm blind. 501st dogma(talk) 12:18, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • Also, when you have a crew of one, then the minimal crew is most definitely also one, so I don't believe that the minimal crew field should be filled in in the infobox. 501st dogma(talk) 02:37, April 21, 2015 (UTC)
    • Removed. Manoof (talk) 05:14, April 21, 2015 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
  • Could you give the intro a slight expansion?
    • How's that? Manoof (talk) 23:23, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
  • "Around 0 ABY, sometime before the end of the Bounty Hunter Wars, the bounty hunter veteran Chentu Chek..." Where are you getting the around 0 ABY? From the source, I thought all we knew was that it was prior to the death of Cradossk.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 20:39, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
    • Misphrased that, it should be correct now. Manoof (talk) 23:23, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

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Veema

  • Nominated by: 501st dogma(talk) 01:19, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I kinda just selected a nommable NJO topic at random....

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  1. ACvote Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 22:38, May 6, 2015 (UTC)
  2. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 03:41, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

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Exiled Jedi
  • I don't know much about the source material, but I was wondering if Quee's ship is important enough to have an article.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 16:14, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
    • Eh, it's mentioned as a battered corvette, so why not. 501st dogma(talk) 01:35, May 6, 2015 (UTC)
Floyd
  • Expanding on EJ's objection, I feel like the freighter that Veema crashes into could use an article as well. IFYLOFD (Talk) 05:27, May 14, 2015 (UTC)
    • There we go. 501st dogma(talk) 17:15, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

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BAX-7 landspeeder

  • Nominated by: Manoof (talk) 07:53, April 4, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: CA that cleans up good

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  1. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 21:24, April 18, 2015 (UTC)
  2. ACvote grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 07:57, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
  3. 501st dogma(talk) 18:47, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
  4. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 00:41, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

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Grunny
  • I'd suggest mentioning the rough date the Bounty Hunter Wars ended in the body, not just in the reference, to give the reader a better idea of the time period. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 14:08, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
    • Alright, added. Manoof (talk) 05:17, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
501st
  • The minimum crew of 1 in the infobox is redundant if the crew size is only 1 initially.
    • Regardless of your response below, I've removed this. Manoof (talk) 11:15, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
  • Wait, are you basing the 3 passengers and 1 pilot off the 4 seats in the image? If so, I don't think we can say that there was just 1 pilot, as it could have easily (though it is unlikely) taken two to pilot it. It's better to just say that four people could fit in the speeder, with 2 seats in the front and 2 in the back. 501st dogma(talk) 01:37, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
    • Crew/passenger capacity is indeed based on the image. The front of the speeder looks very similar to that of a regular modern car, with driving/piloting controls on one side and a simple continuation of the dash across to the front passenger, which is clear to see when looking at the full image. I am however willing, if uncomfortably, to concede this second point if you feel strongly about it. Manoof (talk) 11:15, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
      • Eh, I guess it does look like that. 501st dogma(talk) 18:47, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
  • Preliminary objection: You have the same issue with the 0 ABY date as you did with your other article. If you have an issue with one of your articles, fix it in all of them.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 01:16, May 19, 2015 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I'll try to jump on those things in future. I also tried to expand the intro (per your other objection) but can't come up with anything, since the non-BTS stuff is so sparce. Manoof (talk) 04:41, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

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Singularity mine

  • Nominated by: 501st dogma(talk) 01:10, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: MINI BLACK HOLE EATS YOU

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  1. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 21:21, April 18, 2015 (UTC)
  2. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 02:54, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

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Defiant

  • Nominated by: 501st dogma(talk) 00:06, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I image Essenton as a crabby old lady waving knitting needles as she commands Defiant

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Amerce

  • Nominated by: 501st dogma(talk) 00:12, April 26, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I am please you bring you an exceptionally long description section.

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Lumablast Rocket

  • Nominated by: Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 01:44, April 27, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: A former CA of mine that required an update...

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  1. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 04:34, April 27, 2015 (UTC)
  2. As a heads up, I found a ref in the intro :P 501st dogma(talk) 22:30, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

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Andrevea River

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  1. 501st dogma(talk) 14:12, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

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501st

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Unidentified mine operator

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Sykes is a dick to plasma mining camps

  • The intro should be expanded a bit, in particular mentioning his gender and saying that it happened on Naboo (saying he encountered Sykes at the time of the Invasion doesn't put him on Naboo)
  • How did Skyes contact him?
  • I don't think the miner cat is appropriate here, because he could just be a business man in charge of the mine who doesn't actually mine. 501st dogma(talk) 22:49, May 6, 2015 (UTC)
  • BtS should probably have mention that it is unclear if the operator died when skyes attacked the camp. 501st dogma(talk) 14:31, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

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Antarian pea

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:53, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Yet more CAs that got to long.

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  1. 501st dogma(talk) 22:53, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

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Voroos

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:53, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: And another

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  1. 501st dogma(talk) 23:00, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

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Exiled Jedi
  • Initial objection: Please expand the introduction.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 13:45, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
  • I see a contraction in the introduction. Please look through the article and remove any contractions.
  • Why is it in the Creatures of unspecified diet category?
  • With the information about the voroos being found on different habitats on multiple planets, I think you can have a short "Voroos in the galaxy section" in addition to the information already in the article. The only part you should remove that is already present is the mention of being found on multiple planets in the behavior section. It should also briefly note the Zoologists' theory about the voroos and palaks.
  • The layout guide says that reproductive characteristics should be covered in the behavior section.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 13:45, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

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Agamar slider

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:04, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:

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  1. 501st dogma(talk) 13:10, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

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501st
  • You should be consistent in how you refer to the special sauce/garnish. The infobox has it as one, and the body has it as another. 501st dogma(talk) 17:04, May 8, 2015 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
  • Initial objection: Please expand the introduction.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 13:46, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
  • Where does the source say that it was inspired by his travels to Agamar? There is a general part mentioning his travels in the sliders section and the fact that the menu included his favorite foods that he had encountered over the years, but I can't find anything more specific than that. Unless it states otherwise, he could have easily came across the food somewhere else in his travels. It should still be mentioned that the slider was inspired by his travels, just don't state anything the article does not state.
  • The history section should mention that the Sernpidalian mayo-ketchup and Bimm mustard could be added if requested since this is specifically about Dex's Diner. In the description section, the special garnish, Sernpidalian mayo-ketchup, and Bimm mustard should be mentioned separately since these are Dex's menu options.
  • Why are you referring to the special garnish as special sauce?--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 14:00, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

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Old One-Eye

  • Nominated by: Trip391 (talk) 03:56, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:

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  1. 501st dogma(talk) 14:04, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

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  • History section should introduce One-eye as a rancor in the beginning. 501st dogma(talk) 23:05, May 6, 2015 (UTC)
  • P&T should probably mention that he had tough skin.
    • Added
  • Also, do you see the Rancors after they mount them to catch Liq? 501st dogma(talk) 01:48, May 8, 2015 (UTC)

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Too big to be a CAN, see here.


Alderaan Enclave

First time writing a location. I would like to learn how to do so correctly and well. Let's go! Nivlacanator(talk) 05:54, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

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Brandon

  • The BtS is unsourced.
    • Oops. Sourced now; although the Story Group one may be kind of flimsy. Nivlacanator(talk) 23:59, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
  • You need to italicize the issue names in the references. I notice this is a habit that you've gotten into. I would encourage you to break it.
  • It's unclear as to whether or not the Alderaan Enclave will appear in any further issues of the series. I would personally recommend waiting until the series is over until you nominate this, because it risks being an unstable nomination. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 05:58, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
    • I thought of that too, but ultimately rejected waiting, if based only on the fact that I want to promote more status articles. And would like to learn how to better do so from people like you Mr. Brandon! And I figure if it is in the fourth issue it'll be for just a couple pages at most. Aka, easy to deal with. Sorry for any trouble this could possibly cause in that area. Nivlacanator(talk) 23:20, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

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Kikla

  • Nominated by: Manoof (talk) 08:07, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: CAnom that got too big before I forgot I had nom'd it.

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  • All CA objections were addressed. Manoof (talk) 08:07, May 20, 2015 (UTC)



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