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Meetra Surik's armband

  • Nominated by: – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 18:20, February 17, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Back in business

(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)

Support

  1. Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (TAKE A SEAT) 07:35, February 21, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Tommy
  • Some more links are needed: Color, starship in intro, hyperspace, asteroid, mining, sexes in intro, exile in intro, Peragus Mining Facility in intro.Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (TAKE A SEAT) 19:16, February 18, 2018 (UTC)
    • Done sans "Exile" in the intro, I don't see a natural way to link it, as "the Jedi Exile" is name. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 06:30, February 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • Color parameter in infobox needs to be filled in.Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (TAKE A SEAT) 19:16, February 18, 2018 (UTC)
  • BTS needs to be fully referenced.Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (TAKE A SEAT) 19:16, February 18, 2018 (UTC)
    • Done – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 06:30, February 20, 2018 (UTC)
      • You still need to source Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords.—Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (TAKE A SEAT) 20:56, February 20, 2018 (UTC)
        • Missed that one, done. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 07:08, February 21, 2018 (UTC)
  • Wouldn't "the asteroids of the Peragus asteroid field" sound better?Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (TAKE A SEAT) 19:16, February 18, 2018 (UTC)
    • Hmm, you are right, consider it done. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 06:30, February 20, 2018 (UTC)
Jangeth
  • Is there a reason why you're using the same image twice? JangFett (Talk) 03:19, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
    • Because there's no other imagery for it, as those armbands aren't visible in the game whatsoever except in the inventory (pic is from there). I felt not having image in the article text would be bad. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 05:36, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
      • We generally don't repeat an image and if there's only one image depicting the subject, we only use it in the infobox. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 06:37, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
        • Allright thanks, it is goneþ – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 07:08, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
Grunny
  • "Sith assassins of Darth Sion" — This could read as the people who want to or did assassinate Darth Sion, but I assume Darth Sion sent them? If so, might be better as "Sith assassins sent by Darth Sion."
  • I made some edits, please make sure I didn't unintentionally change the meaning of anything you intended. :) grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 06:37, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
    • Those were good edits, thanks. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 16:20, February 24, 2018 (UTC)
  • The infobox says the purpose is "Improved combat abilities," but the article content only mentions improved "constitution," which generally refers to the health/stamina of the person. If the infobox purpose is correct as well, it should be worked into the body of the article. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 14:23, March 15, 2018 (UTC)
    • It gives +1 constitution and that's it, should infobox be reworded? – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 17:03, March 15, 2018 (UTC)
      • Yeah, I'd reword it, because if it only increases constitution, it doesn't improve combat abilities (at least not directly), so I'd say the infobox is currently inaccurate. So, I'd make that infobox field closer to what is in the description section. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 17:09, March 15, 2018 (UTC)
        • Tried to fix that. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 10:35, March 16, 2018 (UTC)
          • Looks OK, the only thing I wonder is if "Constitution" is the best word to use, or if we have a less game mechanics-type word/phrase we can use instead. For example, is it detailed what specifically "Constitution" refers to in KotOR? In RPGs, it usually refers to a combination of stamina or health, and maybe we can say something along those lines if "Constitution" is defined clearly somewhere in the game. What do you think? grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 17:04, March 22, 2018 (UTC)
            • Constitution indeed is more game mechanics, so I did replace it with "health and reciliency" in the article and then explained it in the Bts. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 17:14, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
              • OK, can that be done in the intro as well for consistency, as that is still using "constitution"? grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 17:38, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
                • Missed it before, fixed. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 09:18, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
                  • It now reads "it provided an increase to her Improved health and resiliency."" so that sentence needs cleaning up. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 05:29, April 18, 2018 (UTC)
  • I think the history section could use more context for the time period and Meetra Surik, something similar to the first paragraph of the history section in Meetra Surik crystal where the time period has context (post–Jedi Civil War) and a very brief reason for her exile is given. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 14:23, March 15, 2018 (UTC)
    • I'll try come up with something not too detaily. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 10:35, March 16, 2018 (UTC)
      • I did some writing, but I ended up putting more than I expected so let me know if this is too much. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 08:47, March 22, 2018 (UTC)
        • Yeah, I think that's probably a little too much, particularly the details of Goto, Kreia, and so forth, and you want to make sure you keep the focus on the topic of the article. Right now, the armband isn't explicitly mentioned in the History section until the last paragraph. My suggestion would be to go back to the previous version as a starting point, and provide a little extra context while keeping the focus on the armband. For example, you could modify the previous version's opening sentence to be something similar to (not familiar enough with source material to know if this is all accurate): "In 3951 BBY, at the height of the Dark Wars, Human Jedi Knight Meetra Surik returned to Republic space after her exile to the Unknown Regions for defying the Jedi Council's wishes during the Mandalorian Wars. She was taken as a passenger on the Republic Hammerhead-class cruiser Harbinger, with her armband among the possessions she kept in her cabin aboard the ship." What do you think? grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 17:04, March 22, 2018 (UTC)
          • Yours was pretty good as is, so I slotted it in. Indeed that's much more compact and sane that way. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 17:14, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • "who was also known as the Jedi Exile" — this is currently intro-exclusive information, so should be worked into the body (or cut).
    • More I thought of it, less point I saw to have that in the intro anymore, so now it's gone. Her exile is mentioned in the history section and I think that suffice for the "jedi exile" context.
  • Looking at the article for Dark Wars, it looks like the name "Dark Wars" cannot be sourced to KotOR II. Should the ref for the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide be move to after "Dark Wars," assuming that source can be used for the name of the time period?
    • Indeed, fixed.
  • "it could be worn on either hand" — just checking, since it's an "armband," should that read "could be worn on either arm"? grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 17:38, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
    • Brainfart, I fixored that. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 08:46, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
  • On the same track as the Dark Wars objection, is the fact that she's Human actually able to be referenced to KotOR II, or would that also need to be covered by the ref for the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide? grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 05:29, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

Comments


Meetra Surik Crystal

  • Nominated by: – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 09:53, February 18, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Why not?

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Object

Tommy
Ecks Dee
  • If KOTOR gives no name for the crystal (since Surik's name wasn't confirmed until later), shouldn't the article be marked with {{Conjecture}}? If KOTOR gives its name as "Jedi Exile crystal", it could be argued the article should be moved there. 1358 (Talk) 23:12, March 14, 2018 (UTC)
    • It explicitly says "Character name crystal" so canonically that character name is Meetra Surik and such it should stay as is? – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 14:03, March 15, 2018 (UTC)
      • That means a single source didn't explicitly identify as "Meetra Surik crystal" but the name comes from a combination of two sources, making it conjectural. 1358 (Talk) 20:08, March 15, 2018 (UTC)
Imperators II crystal
  • Per ref 5, why isn't the article named [[Meetra Surik Crystal]]?
    • Have to doublecheck how it is in the dialogues, there's a chance that dialogue files have multiple versions of it and thus requires update on references. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 17:18, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • Er, why isn't it mentioned that the crystal glows with green color in the main image?
    • Hmm, indeed I recall it does glow green in the crystal cave, that requires further investigation. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 17:18, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
      • Indeed, green glow in the formation, white glow in the crystal. I tried to fill that in to the article. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 20:00, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • Please make the double ref for the date in the infobox a manual ref note explaining how the BBY date for the crystal's discovery is derived. Imperators II(Talk) 11:41, March 26, 2018 (UTC)
    • That's always fun, will try snatch some good example from some other article. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 17:18, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
      • I think I got this sorted reasonably well. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 20:00, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • Okay, what is going on with this sentence? "Coming from green-glowing naturally-formed crystal formation, it absorbed excess energy [...]" — please find a more suitable verb than "coming from." And please provide the reader with the subject's full name when you introduce it in the article's body. And just a little bit further, there's an excess whitespace before a ref. Imperators II(Talk) 20:23, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • The Artifact infobox has a color field which needs to be filled in. Imperators II(Talk) 20:23, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • Referencing "Meetra Surik" just to Revan in the body doesn't work, as it implies that Revan has unique info regarding the crystal, while in reality it doesn't mention it at all. It should either be a) a double ref, with one for KOTOR2 and the other for Revan, or, going with our newest trend, b) just reference the name to KOTOR2 and place the burden of identifying the origin of Surik's name on the respective article. Imperators II(Talk) 20:23, April 13, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Senatorial arrests

  • Nominated by: Vitus InfinitusTalk 04:32, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:A key moment in Palpatine's grab for power

(0 ACs/4 Users/4 Total)

Support

  1. I expect you to create the Legends version at some point. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 06:29, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (TAKE A SEAT) 08:12, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Nice work! TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:46, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
  4. --Lewisr (talk) 02:12, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Tommy
AV
Senatorial Anil
  • Archive.org has been lately unable to properly format archived versions of StarWars.com pages for some reason. For example, if you open up this article's link to the archive of the Darth Sidious Databank page, you'll see it ultimately just takes you to a blank white page that will never stop loading. For the most part, SW.com pages from early 2017 and before load fine, but any archive pages since the middle/end of 2017 to present will not work. So you need to find an archive.org capture that actually works, or save the page through WebCite. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 12:14, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
    • I was able to use archive.is, link fixed!--Vitus InfinitusTalk 15:56, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
      • Archive.is links work fine, but I find archive.org links much better, so I searched for working archive.org links and changed them if you don't mind :) TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:46, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
  • I think it would be beneficial to have links for the Rebels Recon episode on The Siege of Lothal and the Bail Organa's Databank entry for people to directly access these sources in the references. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 12:14, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
    • Like so?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 15:57, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
      • This isn't mentioned in those sources so not sure including in the sources section works really --Lewisr (talk) 16:00, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
        • What I meant was to put the link instead of saying "the Rebels Recon episode on Star Wars Rebels: The Siege of Lothal," but I phrased it terribly. I have changed that for you, since you have already taken care of the others. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:46, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
Lewisr
  • Can Palpatine's full name be sourced to the rebel files?
  • There's a red link that needs creating in the aftermath section --Lewisr (talk) 00:58, March 3, 2018 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure how relevant the section starting with 'Decades after the end of the Galactic Civil War' is to the senatorial arrests --Lewisr (talk) 01:30, March 3, 2018 (UTC)
    • Made it a bit more relevant, but let me know if you think it's better to remove the GCW instead--Vitus InfinitusTalk 01:41, March 3, 2018 (UTC)
      • Still not really sure how relevant to the actual event it is. It might be better to take it out and add some context as to what the rebel files are instead, you say Mon Mothma noted in the rebel files but you don't really say what the rebel files are --Lewisr (talk) 01:46, March 3, 2018 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • The ref notes need to not use "we" in them. "We" don't say or do anything in our articles. It's best to use "It can be deduced..."
  • I don't have the source, but does the HoloNet headline used as the main quote have a period at the end? It's kind of odd for a headline to have a period, so I'm just curious. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 21:59, March 28, 2018 (UTC)
    • Yeah doesn't have a period. How should I end the quote? With [sic]?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 22:06, March 28, 2018 (UTC)
Imperatorial arrests
  • Ref 2 doesn't mention how the arrests are connected to the Proclamation of the New Order.
  • For all we know, the duel on Mustafar could have been concurrent to the arrests. All we know it happened no later than 2 days AFE while the arrests happened no earlier than 1 day AFE. Imperators II(Talk) 10:56, March 29, 2018 (UTC)
    • Fixed ref note--Vitus InfinitusTalk 13:09, March 29, 2018 (UTC)
      • That doesn't mean we definitely know those events were concurrent, either. You should just remove the links to the duel articles as they cannot be placed firmly enough in the timeline relative to the arrests. Amidala's funeral is OK, though. Imperators II(Talk) 14:02, April 1, 2018 (UTC)
        • Fixed--Vitus InfinitusTalk 21:09, April 2, 2018 (UTC)
          • The Amidala's ref needs to be expanded to mention why it happens later than two days AFE, information which isn't provided by ROTS. Imperators II(Talk) 10:58, April 5, 2018 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Regarding Reference 7, I'm assuming you're taking that scene from Star Wars: The Complete Saga? If so, that would be the more appropriate item to source that to. Check out Reference 12 here. I'd recommend formatting your citation like that. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:08, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
    • I'm not familiar with Star Wars: The Complete Saga has, but if it's a reliable source for a canon article I can definitely switch it to that.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 23:13, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
      • Well, where did you find the contents of that deleted scene, then? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:16, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
        • Bail Organa's biography gallery and the article Cantham House meetings cites Ultimate Star Wars that the scene was canonized--Vitus InfinitusTalk 23:20, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
          • Firstly, Wookieepedia is not a source. That means just because you find something in another article doesn't mean it's true or correct. More importantly, never rely on another article to do your fact-checking for you. Verify the contents of sources for yourself. It sounds like you haven't even looked at Ultimate Star Wars, for example. Secondly, I'm not sure I agree that these two sources mean the contents of that deleted scene have been canonized. Rather, it looks to me like the substance of that deleted scene has been canonized, insofar as the information we're given from the Bail Organa entry and Ultimate Star Wars. In other words, the information from those two sources is what you should be using to present and cite in this article, not the deleted scene itself. As far as I know, we haven't been given any indication in new canon that deleted scenes are canon in full. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:30, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
            • Okay, thanks for clearing that up. I didn't realize using a reference used in multiple articles as a note was not allowed, I'll try to see if I can confirm what Ultimate Star Wars says and if need be look for other sources and change the article accordingly.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 23:40, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
              • It's not that it's not allowed. It's that you shouldn't assume something is correct because another article says something. Check the material yourself, in other words. But for this article, I would recommend just using what those two sources say regarding the Cantham House meetings. Disregard the deleted scene completely. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:43, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
                • Ah okay. I checked the databank entries but I since I didn't own Ultimate SW I assumed, I should have asked instead. I'll make the changes, thanks!--Vitus InfinitusTalk 23:48, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Shadow trooper

  • Nominated by: TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 20:36, February 26, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: These stormtroopers can actually shoot things.

(2 ACs/3 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Yo.-User:Fan26 (Talk) 18:06, March 9, 2018 (UTC)
  2. --Lewisr (talk) 21:24, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
  3. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 21:44, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:24, April 21, 2018 (UTC)
  5. ACvote 1358 (Talk) 20:01, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Tommy
  • Could you please remove the shadow on the left side of the BTS image.Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (TAKE A SEAT) 18:36, February 27, 2018 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, I wasn't able to take a screenshot of the image without that text box shadow, or extract the image directly from the game files. So I have cropped that part entirely to satisfy your objection. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 18:49, February 27, 2018 (UTC)
  • I recommend sub-sectioning the BTS.
  • Could you say they "first appeared in Star Wars canon in Star Wars Battlefront"?
  • You should remove the full date for Battlefront, and just have the year, which can be sourced to the product itself.Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (TAKE A SEAT) 19:04, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
    • Done, also removed the one for The Force Unleashed. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 22:10, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
  • I'd like to see a bit of an expansion on the intro.Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (TAKE A SEAT) 20:10, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
Lewisr
  • Stormtrooper Corps is infobox exclusive --Lewisr (talk) 21:07, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
    • I thought being a stormtrooper variant automatically makes them members of the Stormtrooper Corps, but now I see that is probably my speculation. Removed that from the infobox. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 21:22, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
      • Hmm, I'd argue that its fair enough to say they're in that corps.—Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (TAKE A SEAT) 21:27, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
        • Maybe could add Imperial Army or Military at the very least but I'm not overly fussed if Anil feels otherwise --Lewisr (talk) 21:30, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • You have two consecutive [1] references in the Equipment section. Either one of them is redundant or you're using the wrong reference. 1358 (Talk) 21:33, April 2, 2018 (UTC)
  • I tried to search for similar status articles but I can't really find anything that could be used as precedent for the layout. The closest we can come is probably the Weapons, armor, technology, and equipment articles section of the LG, and I actually think you should rename Equipment to Description; and move History below Description and Application. Thoughts? 1358 (Talk) 11:41, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
    • Since there is no section specifically for military organizations/units in the layout guide, I too searched for some similar status articles and found some kinda similar good articles (such as Twisted Star Squadron, Eighty-sixth Infantry, Special Forces black ops program and Imperial Medical Corps). But my main precedent for the layout was the featured article of clone shadow trooper. I will change the sections, if you still think that is necessary. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:32, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
      • I think it makes sense in this case to first explain what they are and what's so special about them (like we do for starships for example), but considering there's nothing in the LG and precedent for the current layout, it's really up to you if you want to implement it or not. 1358 (Talk) 21:22, April 8, 2018 (UTC)
        • I see your point. I have changed the sections as you suggested, and renamed "Equipment" as "Description and equipment" since almost the entire paragraph is about their equipment. Please feel free to change the name if you disagree. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 23:58, April 8, 2018 (UTC)
          • Very good. Would you be ok with dropping the "equipment" part altogether? I think Description on its own would suffice.
  • No other applicable quotes?
    • There are 10 different applicable quotes in total, all spoken by Admiral Ackbar to warn rebel troopers about incoming shadow troopers (you can listen them all here). In my opinion, the current one is the best by far. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:43, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
      • You could probably put one of them in the History section, at least, if not also in the other sections. 1358 (Talk) 21:32, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
        • Added two additional quotes. I personally feel the one in the History section would work better in Description, but I am also OK with the current placement. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 05:31, April 21, 2018 (UTC)
          • Current setup is okay with me. 1358 (Talk) 00:48, April 22, 2018 (UTC)
  • Is the Ackbar quote some sort of a gameplay mechanic? If not, it should be mentioned in the body.
    • Shadow troopers only appear in the survival mode, in which you play as a rebel trooper who is stranded in an Imperial-occupied territory (a planet of your choice). Before the first wave of shadow troopers arrive into battle, a hologram of Ackbar warns you about them. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:43, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
  • "Wearing an armor similar in design to the traditional stormtrooper armor," This feels a bit misplaced. You spend the earlier sentences discussing differences in the armor, but suddenly you say they wear similar armor. This could work better if you moved the "similar" part to before you describe the differences.
  • I haven't played Battlefront, so I'm not familiar with the storyline. Do these shadow troopers appear in any missions or similar that could be noted in the History, or are they solely a multiplayer feature (or similar)?
    • Actually there isn't any actual storyline in Battlefront except for some tiny training missions. In singleplayer, they only appear in the survival mode as I've explained above. As far as the multiplayer goes, you can only wear their black armor as a cosmetics option. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:43, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
  • I added a {{fact}} tag in the Bts for something that will require a separate reference; please have a look.
  • " it is unlikely that the shadow troopers will be included to the sequel game due to the addition of another black-colored stormtrooper[14]—the death troopers.[13]" Seeing as BF II has been released already, is this sentence still accurate? 1358 (Talk) 20:19, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
    • I would say so. The tweet was actually sent months after Battlefront II's release and the game is still expanding. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:18, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
      • Fair enough. Make sure to update it when they stop releasing new content. :P 1358 (Talk) 21:32, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
  • In the intro, you say that the cloaking device was part of their armor, but this isn't really obvious in the body. Please clarify.
    • I have just rechecked all the sources and they don't explicitly state that the devices were part of their armor. Made some tweaking in the intro. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 07:55, April 22, 2018 (UTC)
  • "Shadow troopers' stealth equipment made them highly suited for missions where cunning rather than brute force was required." The implication here is that stealth equipment = cunning. Does the source use that word? If not, it seems you should pick another word, maybe "discretion"?
    • "This armor, coupled with portable cloaking tech makes them highly suited for missions where cunning, rather than brute force is required." This is the sentence written in the source. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 06:10, April 22, 2018 (UTC)
      • Ok, "cunning" is fine but you should definitely reword that sentence as it's basically copied word-for-word from the source. 1358 (Talk) 19:22, April 22, 2018 (UTC)
  • "They were based off of their clone shadow trooper predecessors.[2]" I feel like some elaboration could be made here. What do we know about the clone shadow troopers? If nothing else, we know they were used by the Republic, which would be worth mentioning here.
    • Actually we don't know anything about them except that they were Imperial shadow troopers' predecessors. And about that Republic mention, I thought that maybe they were clones who were first deployed during the early years of the Empire, but I now realize that doesn't make any sense. Added now. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 07:55, April 22, 2018 (UTC)
      • Be careful when you source things. Your version essentially used AOTC as a source for the clone shadow troopers being a variant of the standard clone troopers. I've fixed it for you, but keep this in mind. 1358 (Talk) 19:22, April 22, 2018 (UTC)
  • "who possessed the same ability, identified as "Shadow Troopers."[10]" What ability are we talking about here? "Equipped with a cloaking device" isn't really an ability. Please reword. 1358 (Talk) 01:05, April 22, 2018 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • Why do you reference the description of the Galactic Civil War to A New Hope? Can't it just be included in the Battlefront reference? Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:30, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
    • Yeah it actually can, removed the redundant reference. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 03:07, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Would strongly recommend removing the Funko news article from the Sources list. Its contents are purely merchandise in nature and have no significant relevance to our purposes. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:34, April 21, 2018 (UTC)
    • Shifted it to the External links section. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 20:23, April 21, 2018 (UTC)
      • That still doesn't really get to the crux of the issue, which, to put it bluntly, is that this merchandise news article is irrelevant to Wookieepedia (that's why the Merchandise Wiki exists). By putting it in the External links, you now actually run into a policy clause that calls for its removal (see the third bullet point). Just kill it. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:48, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

G2-1B7

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:41, March 15, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: 2-1B's terrorist cousin

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Support

  1. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 07:44, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
  2. ACvote MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 22:02, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Tommy
  • Industrial Automaton and height are infobox exclusive.
  • 0 BBY can't to sourced to the Rogue One guide, as that uses a BR1 and AR1 system. However, Star Wars: Galactic Atlas does use the correct system, and confirms Rogue One's placement in 0 BBY.
  • Check your year of release for Rogue One.
  • Ref note 1 should say "manufactured", not "manufacturer", Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 18:00, April 1, 2018 (UTC)
    • In future, be bold and fix typos in a copy edit. Thanks for the review! Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:35, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
      • Okay I will, sorry about that. And you're welcome.
  • Could you briefly explain in the intro why G2 had to give Saw drugs at dangerous intervals and so why he was baffled he was still alive. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 07:23, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • I think it would be appropriate to mention that the droid was capable of, or at least thought to be capable of, developing ethical cases to support its actions in the Characteristics section. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 06:32, April 16, 2018 (UTC)
AV
  • Per Tope's objection here, I don't think it's necessary to include that G2-1B7 was a first class droid outside of the infobox. Simply mentioning that he was a medical droid should suffice. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 18:03, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • I believe Where's the Wookiee? 2 should be treated as a Source rather than an Appearance, as it's not really a narrative. Additionally, each of the book's sections have little info blurbs at the top of the page that we have no reason not to consider official, which elevates the book out of non-canon status. We just sort of disregard the "for fun" activity element of the book for the purposes of continuity. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:45, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
    • Makes sense to me, moved. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:21, April 21, 2018 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure the Rogue One film can really be used as a source for the fact that G2-1B7 is a medical droid, as the referencing is doing in the infobox. You probably need to source that to the Visual Guide.
  • Should flight chair redirect/pipelink to Acceleration couch in the Bio? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:03, April 21, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Imperial Support Vessel

  • Nominated by: TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 05:29, March 16, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I'm in a Rebels mood lately.

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Support

  1. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 16:57, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Ecks Dee
  • You have two consecutive [2] references in the History section.
  • Honestly I'd move the Bts concept art to the right as it's currently interfering with the Appearances heading. 1358 (Talk) 21:25, April 8, 2018 (UTC)
Tommy
  • "12" should be as "twelve" in the body.
  • When you say "date back to" the Imperial Sourcebook, do you mean that's where it was first mentioned? If so, I think so you make that a bit clearer, and perhaps put that before the Thrawn trilogy bit.
    • No, its first mention is actually in the novel Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu. The Imperial Sourcebook is the source in which the Dreadnaughts were first pictured, thus it is the original design that inspired the Rebels' Support Vessel. "Date back to" was how they described the inspiration in the trivia gallery, and I've just added a minor clarification. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 17:52, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
      • Okay, so perhaps you should mention when it was first mentioned as well. I'd argue that's more relevant to the article than the Legends info on Thrawn's campaign. Also, do you need to source "The Dreadnaught's design, in fact, dates back to[1] the 1989[8] Imperial Sourcebook published by West End Games.[1]" to the trivia gallery? Surely you could just source all of that to the Imperial Sourcebook itself. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 17:58, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
        • Changed it as you suggested. And about that the Thrawn campaign part, I just wanted to give readers a brief Legends background so that they understand that the ships were used by Thrawn's forces in Legends as well. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 20:42, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
          • Oh I'm fine with it being there, I was just saying the other bits were more important. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 16:57, April 16, 2018 (UTC)
  • "In these stories, they were used by Grand Admiral Thrawn during his campaign against the New Republic.[6]" You currently source this to the Thrawn Trilogy, but could you make it sourced to one of the books in the trilogy where this takes place? Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 09:23, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • I think you could add a little more detail about the ships appearance to description just based on the picture. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:23, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
    • How does it look now? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:24, April 21, 2018 (UTC)
      • I don't know that rugged is the right word to describe those box-like protrusions. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:30, April 21, 2018 (UTC)
  • I think in History you could more directly say that they were used by the Galactic Empire as you do in the intro. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:23, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
  • Looking again, the last sentence of the intro should be split. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:30, April 21, 2018 (UTC)

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Torpedo Sphere

  • Nominated by: Vitus InfinitusTalk 04:45, March 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Death Star's baby cousin

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Support

  1. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 15:43, March 26, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Nice to see these in Canon again. - Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 21:27, March 26, 2018 (UTC)
  3. So I realised my vote is meaningless after I left my original objections, but whatever, good work. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 15:25, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Clone Just Wants to be Sure
  • Given my unfamiliarity with the Rebel Files, I just want to make sure that Durkteel's status in the Mid Rim can be sourced to the book. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 18:24, March 25, 2018 (UTC)
    • Yes, TRF confirms that Durkteel is a mid rim planet--Vitus InfinitusTalk 20:27, March 25, 2018 (UTC)
QGJ
Tommy
Ecks Dee
  • "that had an equatorial trench that ran throughout the equator of the battle station" This is a bit redundant wording. Obviously an equatorial trench goes along the equator per defition.
  • "At the center of the Torpedo Sphere" Given it's a sphere (or spheroid), you're going to have to elaborate a bit what "center" means. My initial thought was you're referring to the inner center of the sphere (coordinates 0,0,0).
    • How is it now?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 22:58, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
      • An equator acts as a vertical center and in a sphere, the entire equator is a horizontal center, so that's not appropriate terminology. However, I had a shot at rewording it; please have a look and see if it's fine with you. 1358 (Talk) 22:35, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • I don't think the word "basin" is appropriate since there's no water present.
  • Do we know who unearthed the archives? If we do, it'd be appropriate to mention.
    • Added--Vitus InfinitusTalk 22:58, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
      • I don't think you mention the entire chain of people since they're not directly relevant to the subject. Just go with construction crew -> Leia. 1358 (Talk) 22:35, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • I've done some rewording to break up a couple of run-on sentences so make sure to see if you're satisfied with them. 1358 (Talk) 21:48, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
  • The first link in reference 3 currently links to Black Ice, a starship, and that doesn't seem right.
  • Just checking: Does the source explicitly identify Durkteel as being in the Mid Rim? If not, it needs a separate reference or you could just remove it altogether. 1358 (Talk) 22:35, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
    • Yes the source explicitly states that Durkteel is a Mid Rim world several times--Vitus InfinitusTalk 06:03, April 21, 2018 (UTC)

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Wookiee Cookie

  • Nominated by: TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 11:02, March 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Waag mam ga moo. Uoo waa gaa moo.

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  1. Good job on making me feel bad for a rathtar. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 17:06, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

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Grunny
  • In the opening quote "Repairs completed sir" there would normally be a comma before "sir," so is that how it's written in the subtitles?
    • Yeah, I thought the same, but I have just double-checked and that's how it is written in subtitles. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 18:45, March 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • The first two paragraphs of the History section are missing references.
  • In the opening sentence of the BTS, the Wookie Cookie first appearing in the video game should be referenced to LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens, as you can't source that to the starwars.com article that is currently the only reference for that sentence. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 17:59, March 20, 2018 (UTC)
Tommy
  • You should just have the year of release for LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens, so you can remove the other ref and just source it to the product itself, like you've done for the Holiday Special.
  • Context for Finn and Rey, and maybe just say that 3PO and BB-8 are droids.
  • "30" should be as "thirty". Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 09:43, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

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Toy Dampner

  • Nominated by: Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 18:13, March 25, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: It's time to start finishing up these N64 Racer pilots

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Support

  1. ACvote Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:29, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
  2. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 08:00, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

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Ayrehead
Toprawa
  • Question, your answer to which may result in some formatting revisions: Are you taking any of the article's quotes from on-screen game captions? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:34, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
QGJ
  • {{Cite_web}} should be implemented for the first link in the External links section. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 16:17, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
    • Forgive me for interjecting, but actually it shouldn't. Citeweb is only meant to be used for actual citations in the course of an article's Notes and references. It's been a common misconception among newer editors over the past year or so to start using the template anywhere there's an external link, but that's not proper usage of the template. For items in the External links section like this one, just add a backup link next to the URL using {{C}}. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:25, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Arbitrator

  • Nominated by: Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 14:41, April 1, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Say what you will about Chuck Wendig's writing, but his books sure are great for fleet junkies.

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  1. Well done--Vitus InfinitusTalk 20:24, April 10, 2018 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Ayrehead02 (talk) 17:35, April 16, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Great work as always, Tommy. I really need to pick up Rebel Files at some point. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 18:07, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
    • Thanks AV. I really recommend the book, loads of tidbits of info. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 18:14, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Vitus
  • I'd recommend some restructuring for the intro
    • I think it could be better to join these two sentences: "In the aftermath of the Battle of Endor, the Arbitrator was pursued by several New Republic starships. In an attempt to escape them, the Arbitrator jumped to erroneous hyperspace coordinates, causing the Dreadnought to be pulled into a black hole, which destroyed it."
      • Done.
    • Slightly rewording the last part of the above sentence from, "causing the Dreadnought to be pulled into a black hole, which destroyed it," into "causing the dreadnought to be pulled into a black hole, destroying it." or something similar would be better
      • Done.
    • Should "Dreadnought" be capitalized? I also notice it throughout the article
      • Aftermath Life Debt capitalises it.
  • In the description section, I think "thousands" would be better than "1,000s"
    • Done.
  • "Of" is repeated in the last part of the description section
    • Good spot. Changed.
      • Did you mean to add "one" instead of an "of" between "be" and "of"? "by the Rebel Alliance to be of the" --> "by the Rebel Alliance to be one of the"
  • There are several spelling errors in the history section, and did you mean "perused" or "pursued" in the first sentence of the second paragraph?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 17:28, April 10, 2018 (UTC)
    • Corrected.
  • Thanks for your review! Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 18:09, April 10, 2018 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • The final line of the intro is still very choppy with so many commas, could you reword it?
    • Reworded.
  • I'm not sure that the paragraph about the Arbitrator being cruical really belongs in description. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:42, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
    • Removed.
  • The caption for the Sloane image makes it sound like no one knew about it before her. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:42, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
    • I think that sounds better. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 16:23, April 16, 2018 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • Honestly I'd just remove the first image since it doesn't really add anything to the article. The text gets squeezed between the image and the infobox and it just doesn't look very nice. An article this short doesn't need two images.
    • Gone.
  • Question: I'm not really familiar with the source material, but should "Class 1" be capitalized? That's how it's in Legends, iirc.
  • Another question: Does the source use the term "crucial" for describing its relation to the Empire? That word is, in my experience, generally used to describe a relation to an event or resource ("crucial role in the war effort" for example). If the source doesn't use that word, I recommend going with "important" or something similar.
    • Apologies, the source actually uses the word "critical". Now replaced.
  • "that formed part of its complement of over 1,000 ships. The Arbitrator was manned by thousands of crew.[1]" Feels wrong to use numerals and then write it out. Seeing as the "1,000" is just a quantity (as in it lacks a unit), you could just write it out, as well.
    • Done.
  • "Arbitrator was mentioned in The Rebel Files, a compiled gathering of information, reports, and accounts" "compiled gathering" is very redundant wording; they essentially mean the same thing. Go with "compilation" or something.
    • Added.
  • "It was mentioned in a list of the Imperial Navy's most crucial Executor-class Star Dreadnoughts, both those in service and those under construction, which was compiled by Admiral Ackbar.[2" This sentence just reads really awkward, especially the last clause. You mention the list in the first clause but then mention its author at the very end.
    • Reworded.
  • " the ship made a bad hyperspace calculation" A ship by itself cannot make calculations. Either it was a navicomputer or the crew; either way, you can't write the ship made a bad calculation.
    • Aftermath: Life Debt says "Another, the Arbitrator, made a bad hyperspace calculation to escape pursuing NR ships," and Star Wars: The Rebel Files just has the article's main quote. Which do you think would be preferred in this situation, as the book says it was the ship?
  • "Sloane discovered that eleven of the thirteen Dreadnoughts originally in the Empire's service" In the intro, you don't capitalize dreadnought when it's being used alone, but here you do. Which is correct?
    • Sorry, I originally capitalised it as Aftermath: Life Debt does, but then I changed it to be more consistent with the rest of the canon. That one must've slipped under the radar. Now changed.
  • One can only hope for The Essential Canon Chronology so that we can get rid of these ridiculously long date references. 1358 (Talk) 23:03, April 20, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Unification Wars (Galactic Republic)

  • Nominated by: Jace Onasi (talk) 07:04, April 10, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:

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  1. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:59, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

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QGJ
  • Can the year be mentioned somewhere in the intro? QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 16:13, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

  • Sorry for stretching it out into this many nominations, I'm just too busy most of the time with study to worry about my nominations.--Jace Onasi (talk) 07:04, April 10, 2018 (UTC)
  • The image of the Jedi is still an issue, as it isn't time-period appropriate. I don't believe there any suitable images of Jedi from the period, however. You can find the ones suggested in this nomination. If you think I should use one of those images, or any other image, bring that up in your objection.--Jace Onasi (talk) 07:04, April 10, 2018 (UTC)
  • Here's a link to the previous nomination.--Jace Onasi (talk) 07:04, April 10, 2018 (UTC)


Mass Shadow Generator

  • Nominated by: Vitus InfinitusTalk 16:41, April 10, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: A CA that is now a bit too big

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EGL-21

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 22:23, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I assume Jason Fry got Geetaw and Amps confused, but until someone says otherwise this guy's apparently a competent welder despite his lack of arms.

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Tommy
AV
  • Are we sure that the EGL-1 power droid is an actual thing? From what I can tell, the TFA Visual Dictionary just liked identifying droids by name, immediately followed by their classification, and wasn't indicative of a specific model.
  • Per Tope's objection here, I don't think it's necessary to include that EGL-1 was a second class droid outside of the infobox. Simply mentioning that he was a power droid should suffice. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 18:15, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

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Dobbu Scay

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:20, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Let the Last Jedi nominations begin with what is clearly Mark Hamill's most significant contribution to Star Wars

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Object

I hated everything about Canto Bight
  • I think there should be a link to Alcohol and a mention that Dobbu had been drinking in the bio.
  • I don't think multiple sections in the bio are necessary since they're both pretty short, if you make that change I think the second quote in that section would work just as well in the P&T
    • Forgive me for the interjection, but two paragraphs are usually enough to support an image, which, adding a quote if available, makes a perfectly valid subsection. And the two pairs of paragraphs here clearly talk about different things, i.e., the first about Scay's drunken encounter with BB-8 and the second about further events featuring/related to Scay. Imperators II(Talk) 02:54, April 24, 2018 (UTC)
  • Maybe add in the Bts that his name was only given in the credits. Commander Code-8 Felicitations malefactors! 02:15, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

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Watkins

  • Nominated by: QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 12:10, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Most Star Wars-y name ever.

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  1. Commander Code-8 Felicitations malefactors! 04:32, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

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Ambush of Attichitcuk

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