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Omwati
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- Nominated by: Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:44, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Exotic, cute alien species. Like Qwi Xux. Remember Qwi? Wedge's girlfriend from the 1990s? Oh, don't you read the classics anymore? ·:P
(5 Inqs/1 Users/6 Total)
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Support
- Won't object till I'm blue in the face. ~ SavageBob 22:10, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
CC7567 (talk) 07:00, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:50, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
Chack Jadson (Talk) 15:11, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:21, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 19:20, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Object
Pasta noodle-by: There are far, far, far too many one sentence quasi-paragraphs. Please lace these together as best as possible into something cohesive. It seems that many could be easily related without getting into conjecture, OR, or other nasty things. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 20:49, February 17, 2010 (UTC)- Better? Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:05, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Prepare to be savaged...
"Omwati children had specially receptive minds that could be strengthened with the proper training." How is this different from any other sapient species?- It's to a greater extent. Added.
"they even developed their own Force tradition." Can you say what it is in the lead?- OS doesn't say much about that. Added what I could.
Is there a reason that centimeters are used for their height? Most alien species articles use meters.- Changed.
I'm not sure it's necessary to compare their lifespan to a human's; it should be enough to say that they are mature at this age and can expect to live at that age. Is there any more information on their life cycle? When do they begin adolescence, for instance?- Changed.
No BTS info from Alien Anthology or Ultimate Alien Anthology (or the WEG stuff)? How do the RPGs distinguish the Omwati from other species? Do they get any special abilities or deficits?- I tried to include the info in the body but, as this was explictly asked: Added.
Otherwise needs a copy edit, but then it'll be good. I'll see what I can do in the next few days.Good work! ~ SavageBob 22:05, March 22, 2010 (UTC)- Thank you for the review. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 10:57, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
Just a bit more: What does it mean for their hair to be "opal-irised"?- Typo. Changed. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:39, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
What does it mean that a young Omwati's mind can be "broken"? Does he or she go crazy?- OS doesn't offer a thorough diagnosis, but detailed as a medical collpase.
"tonally strange" -- from who's perspective?--Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:39, March 25, 2010 (UTC)- The narrator of a RPG book: "An elegant language with a number of odd tonal inflections.", UAA, p117. Nonetheless, changed. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:39, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
I'll copy edit "History" soon and then will be happy to support! ~ SavageBob 00:32, March 25, 2010 (UTC)- Thank you for your review. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:39, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
One last thing: The article says that Tarkin took several hundred bright young Omwati, but then we're told he only had 10. What happened to all the others? ~ SavageBob 18:25, March 26, 2010 (UTC)- No: He recruited hundreds, and took ten of them to that particular class. Added more detailed info on what happened to the others, trying hard not to OR. Better? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:52, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:39, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Toprawa:
The Source list is at least partially incorrectly ordered, chronologically. Please revise.Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:12, May 5, 2010 (UTC)- I double-checked it and wrote the (hidden) dates in the Source list. Databank entries are supposed to go always last as they're assumed to be automatically updated. I can't find the mistake you're talking about. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
- The list now appears to be ordered correctly. It was not at the time this objection was left. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:21, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
- I double-checked it and wrote the (hidden) dates in the Source list. Databank entries are supposed to go always last as they're assumed to be automatically updated. I can't find the mistake you're talking about. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Moreover, I don't understand why half of the article's referencing specifies individual chapters and the other half doesn't. If you're going to reference by chapter and page number and how you guys like to do this, at least keep it consistent. Reference all by chapters or none by chapters, please.Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:54, May 10, 2010 (UTC)- I have specified chapter in novels, except for "Jedi Search" because my edition of it (in Spanish, btw) is not divided in chapters. Sourcebooks specify the section I used. Other sources are indivisible because they are already too short (autonomous RPG adventures, webcomic, some computer games) Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:43, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Re: your version of Jedi Search, that's annoyingly inconvenient. I won't hold up the objection on something so minor, but I would appreciate it if you looked into the matter with someone who has an English-printed edition, i.e. your fellow WP:A members, and try to search and reference that stuff by chapter to keep it consistent with the other by-chapter referencing. Really shouldn't be that difficult. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:21, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
- I have specified chapter in novels, except for "Jedi Search" because my edition of it (in Spanish, btw) is not divided in chapters. Sourcebooks specify the section I used. Other sources are indivisible because they are already too short (autonomous RPG adventures, webcomic, some computer games) Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:43, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Does whatever source you're using literally capitalize "Near-Human" as such? Because I have my doubts: "The Omwati were lithe Near-Humans"- You were right. Changed. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Same here. Does any source actually capitalize "Dominion" in this manner? "Emperor Palpatine rewarded Tarkin with the Dominion of the Outer Rim Territories" And I've removed the link, since "Dominion" links to a Super Star Destroyer, which is remarkably unnecessary and irrelevant to this article's purposes. It would help if you took the time to check up on what links your article is actually linking to in order to avoid these types of problems.- You were right. Changed. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
No link for this character? "During the reign of the Galactic Empire, an Omwati shaman was on the planet Naboo."- Added. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I'm really confused here. In the BTS quote you mention Diana Ross. But in the actual BTS text you assert the inspiration was from Diahann Carroll. What's going on here?- Modified: Carroll portrayed the character, but Kevin Anderson considered that the character looked like Ross, a celebrity. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
There are two Omwati characters mentioned in the infobox that are given no mention whatsoever in the article proper: Aleema Finn and Kodo Finn. Each character should be provided an appropriate mention and description, or the article fails to meet the FA requirements of comprehensiveness.- Mentioned. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
As far as I know, Galaxies has a time placement of approximately 1.5 ABY for the information you are sourcing. However, you list Galaxies before Star Wars: Rebellion, which begins the day after the Battle of Yavin, in the Appearances list. Unless you have a reason for doing so, this needs to be resolved.- If you mean in the appearances list, changed. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Yup, that's what I said in the objection. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:21, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
- If you mean in the appearances list, changed. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
The same goes for The Most Dangerous Foe.- If you mean in the appearances list, changed (This story takes place in 1.5 ABY, but the characters talk about an Omwati living millenia before that point; this led to my mistake). --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Can we use the citeweb template for the external link in reference 19, please?Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:49, May 10, 2010 (UTC)- Changed (now it's ref #20 due to chapterification of other refs). I'm not really familiar with that specific template. Is this what you expected? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:50, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
- A valiant effort, but that's not exactly how you format it. I've taken the liberty of cleaning this up for you with as much information about the source as I could find. In the future, all you need to do is copy and paste the template from this article and fill in the appropriate fields if you want to use it again. Only, unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any archived version of the specific site page on Internet Archive, which ideally there is, so those fields are left blank this time. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:21, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Changed (now it's ref #20 due to chapterification of other refs). I'm not really familiar with that specific template. Is this what you expected? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:50, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Comments
Approved by Inquisitorius 19:22, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Not objection worthy, but please link to the Omwati's Force tradition, as it's a unique canonical subject. CC7567 (talk) 07:00, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Added, plus article created because it's mentioned in the intro. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 17:22, May 13, 2010 (UTC)