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This page is for the nomination of good articles. This is not a way to showcase the articles of your favorite characters, spaceships, or the like. For a list of Good articles, see Category:Wookieepedia good articles.
A Good article is an article that adheres to quality standards, but cannot reach FA status due to its limited content.
An article must…
- …be well-written and detailed.
- …be unbiased, non-point of view.
- …be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
- …follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia.
- …following the review process, be stable, i.e., does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.
- …not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
- …have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic if the length of the article supports it. This is essential in articles over 1000 words but may not be appropriate on articles with limited content.
- …have no more than 3 redlinks for articles less than 500 words, no more than 5 redlinks for articles 500 words or more, and no redlinks in the introduction, infobox, or any templates.
- …have significant information, especially a biography for character articles. For articles under 1000 words in length, comprehensive detail is required with all information covered from all sources and appearances. For articles over 1000 words, broad coverage addressing all major aspects of the topic is sufficient.
- …be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Wookieepedia:Sourcing for more information.
- …have all quotes and images sourced.
- …provide at least one quote on the article if available. A leading quote at the beginning of the article would be preferred, though not required if no quotes are available. Although quotes may be placed in the body of the article, a maximum of one quote is allowed at the beginning of each section.
- …ideally include a "personality and traits" section on all character articles if information is available.
- …ideally include a "powers and abilities" section on relevant character articles, especially for Force-sensitive characters where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
- …include a "Behind the scenes" section.
- …include a reasonable number of images of sufficient quality to illustrate the article, if said images are available.
- …counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 250 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc). Alternatively, a comprehensive article cannot exceed 3000 words.
How to nominate:
- First, nominate an article you find is worthy of good status, putting it at the bottom of the list below. Nominated articles must meet all seventeen requirements stated above.
- Add {{GAnom}} at the top of the article you are nominating.
- Be sure to place sign in the "Nominated by" line when the nomination is posted for voting.
- Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
- Supporters adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied.
How to vote:
- Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
- Afterward, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
- If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved.
- As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Do not strike other users' objections; it is up to the objector to review the changes and strike if they are satisfied.
- Once a nomination has a total of five votes, with at least three votes coming from AgriCorps or Inquisitorius members—one of which must be an AgriCorps vote—after at least a week since it was nominated (beginning the day of its nomination) and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), the article will be considered a "Good article" and tagged with the {{Eras|good}} template. The talk page will also be tagged with the {{GA}} template. Alternatively, if a nomination receives a total of five AgriCorps votes with no outstanding objections before one week has passed, the nomination will be considered successful.
- The article is placed on the Good article list.
Good article nominations
To nominate an article for Good article status, list it here. Nominated articles must meet all seventeen requirements stated above. If an article has a total of five votes, with at least three votes coming from AgriCorps or Inquisitorius members—one of which must be an AgriCorps vote—after at least a week since it was nominated (beginning the day of its nomination) and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), the article will be considered a "Good article" and tagged with the {{Eras|good}} template. The talk page will also be tagged with the {{GA}} template. For complete instructions on archiving nominations please see here. Also remember to add {{GAnom}} at the top of the article you are nominating.
Llaban
- Nominated by: IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 04:11, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Floyd strikes again!
(1 ACs/3 Users/4 Total)
Support
- SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 10:41, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:59, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
- Empress, I'm receiving another vote! --Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:16, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Looks good. Gmalek
Object
- Soresu, with a legato touch
Its unclear in the intro how he goes from Rebel leader to Tetan commander. Please clarify.- Addressed.
Still confusing. You need to mention the amnesty, otherwise there seems to be no motive.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 05:21, November 20, 2009 (UTC)- Addressed.
- Addressed.
In the body, you haven't explained his motives for joining the Tetan forces, which according ot the quote is amnesty.- Addressed.
The large Sith fleet appeared and the sky, Doesn't make sense.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 09:30, November 17, 2009 (UTC)- Bah! Addressed. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 03:17, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
- Skippy, with a single objection
As seen in pic, Llaban had some tattoos, war paints or marks on his face. If their nature is known, this should be mentioned under P&T; if not, at least under BtS. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:05, November 24, 2009 (UTC)- Addressed. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 00:01, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Toprawa:
- I would request that you choose a slightly less POV word than "valiantly" here: "Although Llaban and his army fought valiantly against the Sith"
- As with your other articles, please arrange the Appearances to reflect only the issues of the comic he actually appears in.
- Also, the BTS says this comic was released in 1996, but that article says it's 1997. Please make sure what you have is correct. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:44, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Hyena-class bomber
- Nominated by:-RC 1138 20:38, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Another droid starfighter
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Support
Object
- The Grand Master
- The intro needs to be expanded; it should summarize the article's contents, and right now there is quite a bit of information missing.
- Please source the Proton bombs in the infobox.
- Remember, everything in these areas that is linkable should be linked once in the intro, once in the infobox, and once in the bio. Make sure that you don't have missing or multiple links.
- More to come. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 02:41, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
- Preliminaries for now
- Please make sure you're confident that the article adheres to all of the nomination rules at the top of this page before even considering nominating it, particularly the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and Sourcing policy. That last one means that {{Ref}} tags are only supposed to be used in the infobox and in templates, not the body of the article.
- That includes thoroughly reading the Manual of Style, and please also double-check the last sentence that I just wrote. That's all I'm going to say for now, as you should be familiar enough with the MoS by now (if you've at least read through it once, which you should have) to know what I'm trying to refer to as far as formatting the Hyena name. CC7567 (talk) 05:29, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- I would particularly recommend rewatching "Liberty on Ryloth" and keeping track of what facts you take from it and what you assume and speculate in the article. "Hyena bombers generally operated in Squads of four to maximize damage and protection" is in no way attributable to the episode.
Conjecturally-titled battles cannot be referred to as such. If they have no canonical name, you cannot make one up for them in other articles.- Your History in general needs to be written much better in terms of context and paragraph size. You cannot assume that the reader is familiar with The Clone Wars series in any way, and the current level of detail is rather inaccurate; you need to detail the situations more.
- This in particular is still in need of major work. CC7567 (talk) 17:19, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- I still see close to no change for this objection. You throw in several characters and other subjects and give no indication to who or what they are. You also need to get in much more detail, including what the bombers' objective was during every single one of those battles. By saying that the article needs to be "written much better in terms...of paragraph size", that means that you should decide on a set paragraph size and stick with it. CC7567 (talk) 05:29, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- This in particular is still in need of major work. CC7567 (talk) 17:19, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Bypassing overall writing, the combination of Jonjedigrandmaster's objections and those from me make up the very basics of the standards for an article to pass or even be considered for the GAN. I would recommend working as much as you can on this over the next few days. CC7567 (talk) 05:14, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
- Please note that just because its first chronological appearance was on Falleen, that in no way means it was its first usage. You're going to have to provide the source that explicitly states so. Furthermore, please note that both Jon and I are waiting for you to clarify that you've fixed these objections; otherwise, this nomination will expire from inactivity in due time. CC7567 (talk) 17:19, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- I believe that I have fixed it to your expectations.--RC 1138 20:58, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Watch your linking and your capitalization. Articles are linked once in the infobox, once in the intro, and once in the body of the article. Also, just because you link various articles does not mean that they should automatically capitalized.
- I've placed several {{Fact}} tags in the article for unsourced information. Please source them properly or remove them as speculation.
- I would recommend getting your chronology straight. You place things just fine in the Appearances section but completely lack factual correctness in the History. Also, your Bts needs to outline the non-canonical storylines in which the bomber appears.
- Please work on your grammar, which is, to put it nicely, inappropriate for even a GAN. The article itself is in need of major work simply to meet Rule 1 of the GAN rules of being "well-written." At the very least, you should run the article through a spelling and grammar check. While all of the ACs are available to you for help, you should not use Wookieepedia as an English school. Every user that is involved with this wiki is expected to have adequate grammar and spelling before even starting his or her writing career, as nothing will be able to be accomplished without the very basics of English. CC7567 (talk) 05:29, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Please make sure you're confident that the article adheres to all of the nomination rules at the top of this page before even considering nominating it, particularly the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and Sourcing policy. That last one means that {{Ref}} tags are only supposed to be used in the infobox and in templates, not the body of the article.
Comments
Mikka Reekeene
- Nominated by: Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:31, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Bearded guy in background of obscure webcomic. Like everyone else in Star Wars, he has a detailed history.
(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
- SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 10:08, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
Object
Before I take a detailed look, you need to make your paragraphs larger in size. ATM, your average para length is 2 sentences, making the article seem like a list of trivia items or something.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 07:56, November 30, 2009 (UTC)- Done for Mikka; tried for the others but it's not easy to increase the avg over 2.3 sentences/paragraph with the existing information. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:17, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Soresu's full review
Mikka Reekeene had been arrested by the Galactic Empire. This seems awkwardly thrown in. Could you provide some timeframe for this?- Not done bc: OS does not give that information; you know as much as I do.
- Then give some sort of reason why he goes to jail. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 22:25, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Done.
- Then give some sort of reason why he goes to jail. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 22:25, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Not done bc: OS does not give that information; you know as much as I do.
There is no mention of his birthdate anywhere but in the infobox.- Added.
You switch between lens' and lens's- Good one. Catched.
Keep the intro in chronology. In the first sentence, you basically summarise everything he was during his lifetime. You should only state what he was before what happens in the next sentence (before he goes to jail).- Have a look.
the maximum leader of the Rougnecks Redundant. You've already said Lens was first in command of the Roughnecks.- Ok, but I specify that as a General she's still in charge.
she discovered that most of her previous men What previous men? From where?- I thought "mercenary leader" gave that info, but: modified.
Check for underlinking.- Have a look.
Context on the Satran Corporation- Not done bc: Again, this is all we know about Sartran.
- Oops sorry. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 22:25, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Not done bc: Again, this is all we know about Sartran.
In the bio you say he uses his empathy and caution. There should be ention of this in the P&T.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 00:22, December 2, 2009 (UTC)- Added. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:30, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Merge some of the paragraphs. They're becoming too small again. I understand that they may not be completely related to each other, but it keeps it organized and uniform. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 22:25, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Done.
- Merge some of the paragraphs. They're becoming too small again. I understand that they may not be completely related to each other, but it keeps it organized and uniform. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 22:25, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Added. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:30, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
As the co-leader of the Roughnecks, As the chief engineer of the Roughnecks a bit repititice.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 22:44, December 3, 2009 (UTC)- Done. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:33, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Tura Raftican
- Nominated by: Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:31, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Other girls from Rebellion couldn't reach 250 words.
(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
- SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 10:04, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
Object
Comments
Thar'quan
- Nominated by: Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:31, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Gimme some air ← and this is the reason why I'm nominating this. Serious.
(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
- SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 08:36, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
Object
- Soresu
I have noticed that in a number of previous noms and also some of your current ones, the intro has not been sufficiently long. Please make it bigger. Check your other noms for the same problem.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 07:55, November 30, 2009 (UTC)- Try now. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:17, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
other scars due to his work with Rebel agent Sasnak Toxis while working for Hctaqsas Metals. Work/working a little repetitive.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 09:59, November 30, 2009 (UTC)- I love Thesaurus. Look now. Skippy Farlstendoiro 10:27, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Prepare to be savaged...
- "favoring the Rebel network on nearby Sriluur." Can you explain what you mean by "favoring"?
- I think a lot of the information in the second paragraph of "Biography" might better fit under "Personality and traits". A list of his scars and the fact that he showed them off seems more P&T'ish to me, for example. Nevertheless, the list of operations during which he received the injuries belongs instead under "Biography". In the end, you may have to repeat some information in both sections, but that's fine.
- Does the book he first appeared in have a single author or a couple of authors? It might be good to note who created the character. Otherwise, looks solid! ~ SavageBob 01:17, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Tarr Seirr
- Nominated by: Kreivi Wolter 16:14, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Lets try this out.
(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
- Good now! :) Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:47, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
Object
- The Grand Master
- Please check your grammar throughout the article.
- Missing P&a section.
- Yeah, actually I tried to write that, but it was awfully short. There really isn't much fact to put on that.--Kreivi Wolter 20:30, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
- The section is required by the LG. If there's anything that can be put there, it should be there. His Force-sensitvity and any particular Force Powers that he exhibited, the fact that he was skilled enough to became a Knight, his skill with a lightsaber, and any other skills he may have possessed can and should be mentioned here. Even if the secion is very small, it is required.
- Good now?--Kreivi Wolter 21:58, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
- Please check your grammar. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 17:39, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Good now?--Kreivi Wolter 21:58, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
- The section is required by the LG. If there's anything that can be put there, it should be there. His Force-sensitvity and any particular Force Powers that he exhibited, the fact that he was skilled enough to became a Knight, his skill with a lightsaber, and any other skills he may have possessed can and should be mentioned here. Even if the secion is very small, it is required.
- Yeah, actually I tried to write that, but it was awfully short. There really isn't much fact to put on that.--Kreivi Wolter 20:30, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
- More to come. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 19:01, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
- Skippy vs the Cerean guy
Early life: During the growing Separatist Crisis, members of the Council found themselves too occupied, and Mundi relinquished his position as Watchman to Seirr, who had also became a Jedi Knight. This part could be improved using a chronological order: Seirr became a Knight; then Separatist Crisis; then Mundi relinquished Watchmanship, then Seirr is promoted to Watchman.- Good now? Kreivi Wolter 15:40, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
Attack on Hypori: General Daakman Barrek uncovered Add more context: Mention that Barrek was a Jedi, or the reader could assume that Barrek was Separatist.- Good now? Kreivi Wolter 15:40, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
Final duel: Are you sure K'Kruhk was a Jedi Master at this point? Because I am not so sure at all. Can you source that particular word, or remove it?- Good now? Kreivi Wolter 15:40, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:35, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
Comments
- If someone knows the source that identifes him as general, then please tell me.Kreivi Wolter 20:30, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
- And if someone knows which source first identifies him as Tarr Seirr, please tell that one too. Im not sure is it his Databank entry. Kreivi Wolter 13:11, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
Bodo Baas's Master
- Nominated by: Darth Morrt 08:33, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: This is my first try. Tell me if my English is too weird and I will stay at regular editing.
(0 ACs/2 Users/2 Total)
Support
- Your first vote. Not that hard, true? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:44, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Its not that bad for the first GA. Now you only need 3 ACs votes : ) Kreivi Wolter 11:04, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
Object
- The Grand Master, round one
Right now, there is simply too much information in the article that is irrelevant to Bodo Baas' master himself/herself. For example, the beginning of the biography is basically a history lesson that is completely unneeded for this article: "By 1000 BBY the New Sith Wars, thousand years of conflict between the Jedi and the Sith, which lasted from approximately 2,000 to 1,000 BBY, was over. The Ruusan Reformation reconstructed the government of the Galactic Republic taking power from the Supreme Chancellor to the Galactic Senate. Simultaneously, the Republic and the Jedi Order disbanded their armies and navies. The Order centralized the Jedi training on Coruscant and allowed only one Padawan per Master. Years of reconstuction began after the Dark Age."Also, please work on your grammar. It is a requirement for GANs per the first part of rule number 1: an article must be well-written.- Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 14:34, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Better now? Darth Morrt 10:49, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Skippy wants to read this
Source all the infobox.who will face the Dark Side, while the future of all the Jedi is at stake. Use past tense: "who would face" "the future [...] was/would be at stake".Consider avoiding the string "he/she", using instead "the Master", "this Jedi Master", "this person"... For what we know, Baas's Master might well be neither male or female."he surely knew" "Maybe this led". Speculation; the Master did or did not.The history mentions the writing of a prophecy, but it could also include that the prophecy was then stored on a Holocron (as I deduce from a later paragraph).Consider adding an image of Baas, captioned to indicate it was the Master's apprentice.- Quite good for a first; when's the second one coming? :) Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:17, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Done. I searched similar GA/FA articles as a model, like Unidentified Jedi (Sacking of Coruscant). My next will be the Tedryn Holocron, but only after this one is GA. Darth Morrt 14:39, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- QGJ
- First of all, was it explicitly stated that this individual was a Jedi Master? Having a Padawan does not necessarily equal a Master's title, and Jedi Knight could also be referred to as "master" by his Padawan.
- It is not explicitly stated, but I think the Master is a Jedi Master because: 1. He/she lived quite long to be a Master - I know this is speculation. 2. He trained Bodo Baas - it is still possible not to be a Master, but unlikely. 3. As far as I know, the theory of master-who-not-a-Master comes from the Preques. I think pre-Phantom-Menace sources that say master or Master intended to say Jedi Master. 4. TEGTTF says "written by his own Master" on page five, Master capitalized. Darth Morrt 00:51, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- In the biography, please follow the chronology. You jump from the master making a prophecy, to Bodo Baas telling it to Leia, then back to the master taking Bodo as a Padawan.
- As per the established rules, the Master took a Krevaaki Padawan, Bodo Baas, descendant of Vodo-Siosk Baas. By 590 BBY, the training was complete, and Baas was assigned to the Adega system, where he served with a group of other Jedi. I'm pretty sure that Dark Empire 5: Emperor Reborn is not a source for all of this.
- Context on Vodo-Siosk Baas and Anakin Solo.
- How are the quotes in the biography and the P&A relevant to the master? They are just random statements about the Force.
- Bio quote is not really relevant, deleted. P&A quote is added because the most important thing we know about the Master is his prophecy, seeing the future. I moved it to Bio. Darth Morrt 00:51, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- "Legacy" should be a subsection in the biography.
- The Master first appeared in the sixth issue of the Dark Empire comic series… No, he did not; he was only mentioned.
- In the appearances, list the specific issue(s) of Dark Empire in which the master is mentioned.
- Have you checked all sources that might mention the master, including The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia and those listed in the Tedryn Holocron's and Bodo Baas' articles?
- Please watch your linking. Each item must me linked once in the intro, once in the infobox, and once in the main body of the article.
- Has a little too flowery prose and excessive details to my liking, but overall, quite good for a first try. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 17:08, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Mostly done. Checking sources, but not all is availible for me. Darth Morrt 00:51, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- I haven't found any fourther info about the Masterin these sources: Force Heretic: Reunion, Dark Empire endnotes, Dark Empire Sourcebook, TEGTC, JA Sourcebook, TEGTTF, Dark Empire Handbook, TNEG to Weapons and Technology, TEG Alien Species, TNEG Alian Species, Ultimate Alian Anthology. Darth Morrt 11:10, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
- These sources are not availible for me: A Guide to the Star Wars Universe, any version; Star Wars Encyclopedia, any version; Fact Files, TEG Weapons and Technology, Firestorm short story. Darth Morrt 11:10, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Mostly done. Checking sources, but not all is availible for me. Darth Morrt 00:51, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- First of all, was it explicitly stated that this individual was a Jedi Master? Having a Padawan does not necessarily equal a Master's title, and Jedi Knight could also be referred to as "master" by his Padawan.
- The Grand Master, round two
If something is "unknown" it should not be placed in the article: (i.e. "It is unknown if the Master fought in the New Sith Wars...")If it actually is confirmed that this prophecy came from an actual Force Vision, than this should be mentioned in the biography, and not just the Powers and abilities section. If this is not confirmed, then it cannot be put in the article.In the BTS you refer to the Master as "him/her." Is the Master's gender unknown? If this is so, then you should go through the article and remove all of the references to the master's gender. If it is actually confirmed that this master is male, then this should be stated in the infobox as well as the article body.Also, just because the prophecy was written around 990 BBY doesn't mean the master was born before that time. As the date is "approximate," the master could easily have been born shortly after 990 BBY and have had the prophecy early enough in life to still make it approximately one thousand years before 10 ABY. While it is likely that the master was born beforehand, it is still speculative, and therefore cannot be put in the article.- This cannot go in the infobox, either.
- Deleted. He could be born much earlier too. Around 990 BBY is not good for birth date. Darth Morrt 01:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- This cannot go in the infobox, either.
- Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 18:05, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Done Darth Morrt 00:51, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- The Grand Master, round three
The prophecy that this Jedi made should be mentioned sooner in the intro. Right now it seems like context for the Tedryn Holocron rather than a major event in the Jedi's life.- The sentences in the first paragraph of the biography are all short and abrupt. See if you can make them flow better. Also, why don't you go into details about the prophecy here? As far as we know, it was the most important event of the Jedi's life, and should be detailed more upon its first mention.
- Please fix your grammar here.
- "where he served with a group of other Jedi."The meaning and purpose of this is unclear. What other Jedi? How and who/what were they serving? How is this relevant to the Master?
- You've overelaborated on this now. Just explain the basics here, since this isn't something that's actually hapening to the master him/herself; it's just relating to something he/she did. Also, please word this section better, as it's become very awkward to read.
- You say in the BTS that this Jedi was only mentioned in the Jedi vs. Sith sourcebook, but this is not specified under the Sources section. If he was indeed only mentioned and did not actually appear, you need to add a mentioned only tag to the source. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 23:30, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Mentioned only tag goes only to the Appearance section, doesn't it? In sourcebooks everything is mentioned only, because nothing is appearing. Others done. Maybe a little too much semi-relevant details, but there is very few thing that are clearly and strictly relevant to the Master.Darth Morrt 22:55, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, my mistake. However, unless this particular Master has his own entry in the source, then you need to state what entry he is mentioned in (i.e. the Tedryn Holocron, unless I am mistaken). Also, please work on your grammar throughout the article. Once again, this falls under Rule 1 of the GAN page, and it shouldn't be the reviewers' job to have to fix this for you. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 00:26, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
- Mentioned only tag goes only to the Appearance section, doesn't it? In sourcebooks everything is mentioned only, because nothing is appearing. Others done. Maybe a little too much semi-relevant details, but there is very few thing that are clearly and strictly relevant to the Master.Darth Morrt 22:55, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Lyunesi
- Nominated by: --Eyrezer 09:28, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: A species hunted by Boba Fett. Thanks to Borsk and Cav for supplying some sources.
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Support
Object
- Skippy having a look
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Bio: Frail? You mean physically fragile, mentally fragile, easily broken, infirm...? Could you please give more info? -
S&C: "Skill" used twice in a row. Please replace one. - In the galaxy: Any further information on Dinnid's death? The previous sentences suggest that the Shell Hutts were happy with Dinnid's services. Was he executed for some reason, or accidentally?...
- Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:59, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- 1: It literally only says "the frail species". 2: Fixed. 3: I will see what I can do. --Eyrezer 10:49, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
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- Soresu
- Why is there nothing about Boba Fett and his apparent hunts of the Lyunesi? Looks like it could be expanded upon.
- Otherwise, an interesting article. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 01:17, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
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Ragoon
- Nominated by: --Eyrezer 11:47, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: I thought I'd try a Jedi Apprentice/Jedi Quest species.
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- Looks good after a copyedit. It's nice to see someone else doing something from Jude Watson's books, as it's an area that is severely neglected. —Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 03:49, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- I'm doing Svivreni, does it count as Watson's? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:59, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
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- Skippy, always on species noms
You say the image shows Jinn and Vos, but I seem to remember it's Kenobi and Vos. Please check your sources and, if needed, change the caption.The image shows Quinlan Vos. Please, explain the presence of Vos and whoever-he-was-with in the History.- Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:03, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Silly mistake re caption. I've added a little bit more about the Jedi missions, but it seems the Jedi did not normally encounter the Ragoons while there, only on the particular occasion detailed, so for that reason I've kept it brief. Thanks for the review. --Eyrezer 21:21, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
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Hrym Mawarr
- Nominated by: Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 14:59, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: The last of the special-missions force bounty hunters. No available quotes directly related to him, though
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A Welsh Skakoan, whaddaknow. Graestan(Talk) 03:04, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- --Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:01, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Skakoans rule! Good job. Kreivi Wolter 10:59, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
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Skippy's single objection: Do you know where was Skywalker captured? If so, the article could use that data. Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:24, November 30, 2009 (UTC)- Added. Thanks for the review. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 18:09, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Toprawa:
- This needs a little bit more to explain why Skywalker was arrested: "he was hired by Galactic Alliance Chief of State Natasi Daala to assist Captain Savar's Security forces in the arrest of Jedi Grand Master Luke Skywalker" Toprawa and Ralltiir 07:56, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed, thanks for the review. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 13:47, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
- This needs a little bit more to explain why Skywalker was arrested: "he was hired by Galactic Alliance Chief of State Natasi Daala to assist Captain Savar's Security forces in the arrest of Jedi Grand Master Luke Skywalker" Toprawa and Ralltiir 07:56, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
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Fw'Sen
- Nominated by: --Eyrezer 06:56, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: This one a non-sentient species of ~260 words.
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- --Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:02, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 01:28, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
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- Skippy-suggestion:
Consider adding this at the end of the intro ", named after the Fw'sen species." --Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:05, November 30, 2009 (UTC)- I have purposely avoided saying that as the sources don not say that explicitly. --Eyrezer 00:54, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
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Zinn Toa
- Nominated by: Darth Trayus
(Trayus Academy) 08:59, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Hey baby.
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- I'm working on getting some body images - as for the infobox, that's the best you're going to get. Darth Trayus
(Trayus Academy) 09:00, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
Neimoidian controller (Saak'ak)
- Nominated by: Kreivi Wolter 22:30, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Finally! I have wait a long time for this. Lets not screw it up.
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- I'll vote! Just don't hurt me! Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:25, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
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Please work on your grammar. This is a requirement per GAN Rule 1: an article must be well-written, and "well-written" includes good grammar. Incorrect grmmar furthermore makes it difficult to review articles, as it often makes the meaning of certain phrases confusing.Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 22:55, November 30, 2009 (UTC)- Ookay, I have now read the whole article. I fixed the errors I found, but if theres more of them, could you give me at least one example. I know it's not your job, but it would greatly help me in future. Kreivi Wolter 11:29, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Skippy'll have a look
Bio: Context for the "blockade of Naboo" and for "the crisis". You could also mention that Gunray was the Neimoidian in charge of the operation.- Fixed the crisis, but I wonder is it really necessary to tell about Gunray's role in this article? Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)</s>
He then managed to open the door. Consider Kenobi then managed to avoid ambiguity.- Roger roger. Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)</s>
Kenobi decided to find a way to cut the doors power off by destroying the generator, which caused the Neimoidian controller to deny it by screaming. What's "it"? What is he denying? The obvious fact that the generator has been destroyed?- XD when you put it in that way. Uhh, better now? Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)</s>
was later able to escape from the ship. Who did so?- Roger roger. Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
Please reword the following as I cannot really understand what you mean: Kenobi then questioned the controller about his work on the room, which the Neimoidian replied that he was monitoring the power generators of the hangar bay; also Kenobi cared for little- Roger roger. Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- I like this. Consider creating a sub-category of images for this guy's. Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:40, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Why the h*ll not? : ) Thanks for the review. Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- The Grand Master
Is the "small room full of computers" the room from which he controlled the hangar bay power generators? If so, please clarify this.- Yes it is : ) Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- "which caused the Neimoidian controller to deny him to do so by screaming." Do you mean the Neimoidian tried to prevent him from doing so by screaming? Please clarify.
- Removed "by screaming". Better now? Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- "By screaming" wasn't really the problem. What you mean by "To deny him to do so" is still unclear. This wording does not work here.
- Removed "by screaming". Better now? Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
"When the generator was destroyed, he only wanted to be left alone." Why did he want to be left alone?- I dont know. In the game, he only says "Please, leave me alone". Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Because the player can choose not to interact with the controller, you should add in the bts that it is unknown if any actual conversation between Kenobi and the controller took place in canon.
- I would rather not. Its already told by the Gamemechanics-template. Just like in the article Unidentified Naboo merchant, which is a good article. Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- In that game the player has to interact with the merchant. It is the player's choice whether to kill or realease him, but either way the player must interact with him. The player does not have to interact with this controller. For an example of what I mean, see such good articles as Kadir and Larrim.
- Um, the player dont actually have to interact with the merchant. In game, it is entire possible not to even meet him, and the player dont even have to. Kreivi Wolter 15:11, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Well then that article has incorrect information, and I will bring this up at the next AC meeting. However, the fact remains that the player's conversation with the Neimoidian may or may not have canonically taken place, and thus even if it did take place, the form of the conversation is unknown (unless there are no options for what you say during the game), and this needs to be stated in your article.
- No need to do that; the merchant has been updated accordingly. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 20:27, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
- No need to do that; the merchant has been updated accordingly. QuiGonJinn
- Well then that article has incorrect information, and I will bring this up at the next AC meeting. However, the fact remains that the player's conversation with the Neimoidian may or may not have canonically taken place, and thus even if it did take place, the form of the conversation is unknown (unless there are no options for what you say during the game), and this needs to be stated in your article.
- Um, the player dont actually have to interact with the merchant. In game, it is entire possible not to even meet him, and the player dont even have to. Kreivi Wolter 15:11, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
- In that game the player has to interact with the merchant. It is the player's choice whether to kill or realease him, but either way the player must interact with him. The player does not have to interact with this controller. For an example of what I mean, see such good articles as Kadir and Larrim.
- I would rather not. Its already told by the Gamemechanics-template. Just like in the article Unidentified Naboo merchant, which is a good article. Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- I have gone through and fixed some some more of your grammar, but please continue to work on this in the future. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 18:35, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- I will. Thanks for the help. May the Force be with you : ) Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Have you checked the game guide for a mention/any new information? QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 20:39, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Of what? Damn, I didn't even knew that that exist. Kreivi Wolter 05:57, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Just FYI, almost every Star Wars game (except the handheld, cellphone, flash and old Atari/NES/Arcade ones) has an accompanying strategy guide, so you must be sure to have them checked before nominating an article from a video game. This time, you could try contacting Jaymach, who has the guide, but it's quite hard to catch up with him. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 20:27, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Just FYI, almost every Star Wars game (except the handheld, cellphone, flash and old Atari/NES/Arcade ones) has an accompanying strategy guide, so you must be sure to have them checked before nominating an article from a video game. This time, you could try contacting Jaymach, who has the guide, but it's quite hard to catch up with him. QuiGonJinn
- Of what? Damn, I didn't even knew that that exist. Kreivi Wolter 05:57, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
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Battle of Primus Goluud
- Nominated by: IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 03:24, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Yep.
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- Kreivi sputters
- Casualties: No notable figures... eh, what?
- Yeah... there's no info given on casualties in the source material.
- Then it shoud be "Casualties: Unknown".
- Yeah... there's no info given on casualties in the source material.
Prelude is now bigger than the battle itself. I'm not familiar with the appearances/sources, so I ask: can the battle section be improved?- Not really. The battle itself is very, very short. The actual fighting between Teta's forces and the Sith is only in a couple panels of the comic. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 23:31, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- This was just my first, single look on the article. More to come, if necessary.Kreivi Wolter 13:24, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Casualties: No notable figures... eh, what?
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Roo-Roo Page
- Nominated by: Darth Trayus
(Trayus Academy) 07:17, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Babies are done. Now get in my belly.
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Gira
- Nominated by: Jedi Kasra (comlink) 22:37, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: The guy kills himself after Darth Vader betrays him, heh…
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- Pre-nom reviewed. —Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 22:45, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
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- I know, it needs more images. If anyone has Star Wars Tales 12, feel free to upload an image of Gira dueling Vader and an image of Gira putting his saber to his chest.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 22:37, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Here you go: Gira vs. Vader, Gira's death. Xicer9
(Combadge) 02:06, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, thank you, Xicer!--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 02:32, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Here you go: Gira vs. Vader, Gira's death. Xicer9
R3-T6
- Nominated by: Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 00:33, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Jumping on the random astromech droid bandwagon.
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Good job. More droids, please. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:19, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
Excellent work. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 21:02, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Looks good! ~ SavageBob 22:05, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
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- Toprawa:
Some minor stuff. Firstly, in at least one place you refer to the droid as "he," as though he is masculine-prorammed. Please go back and make sure at least one source indeed refers to him as a "male." If so, you should "Masculine programming" to the infobox. If not, you should reword all appropriate instances to just "it."I'm assuming Rebelscum.com has the picture of his action figure package from The Saga Collection. It would be best to link to that page in the Source list, and please check that page for any additional info, which is often the case with these action figures.Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:45, December 3, 2009 (UTC)- Both done. Thanks for the review. Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 12:16, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Both done. Thanks for the review. Grand Moff Tranner
One question: "An R3-series astromech droid, R3-T6 was in the service of the Galactic Empire and tasked with calculated hyperspace coordinates." Do you mean "calculating?"Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 19:44, December 4, 2009 (UTC)- Whoops, yes. Good catch. Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 21:01, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Whoops, yes. Good catch. Grand Moff Tranner
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Qiraash
- Nominated by: --Eyrezer 02:30, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Ep4 cantina extra species, ~600 words
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- I reworded things a bit so that we don't treat Sirln's hairstyle as typical, since we haven't met any other Qiraash yet. "Weird girl" indeed. ~ SavageBob 15:53, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
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- Does the Hyperspace article on her still exist? I get an error when I click on the link. Hyperspace is an awful website. ~ SavageBob 15:53, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
- It does not... I'm scoping out tfn to see if anyone saved it. --Eyrezer 20:57, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
First Battle of Korriban (Great Hyperspace War)
- Nominated by: IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 01:36, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Yes, more TOTJ.
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Vilosorian
- Nominated by: --Eyrezer 09:02, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Thanks to Axims for the CSWE info
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Vahla
- Nominated by:jSarek 10:11, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Seems it's Grunny's turn to rope me into nominating one of my past articles. :-p
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Nouane (Allied Region)
- Nominated by: Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 22:02, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: More Nouane goodness.
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Baxton
- Nominated by: Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 23:52, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: A Legacy/Ambition crossover, courtesy of Abyss
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