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This page is for the nomination of Good articles. A Good article is an article that adheres to certain quality standards but cannot reach Featured status due to its limited content. This page is not a way to showcase the articles of your favorite characters, spaceships, or the like. For a list of Good articles, see Wookieepedia:Good articles.

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An article must…

  1. …be well-written and comprehensively detailed.
  2. …be unbiased, non-point of view.
  3. …have comprehensive Appearances and Sources lists.
  4. …be fully referenced, including all quotes and images. See Wookieepedia:Sourcing for more information.
  5. …follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia.
  6. …following the review process, be stable, i.e., does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.
  7. …not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
  8. …have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic if the length of the article supports it. This may not be appropriate on articles with limited content.
  9. …have no redlinks.
  10. …provide at least one quote on the article if available. A leading quote at the beginning of the article would be preferred, though not required if no quotes are available. Although quotes may be placed in the body of the article, a maximum of one quote is allowed at the beginning of each section.
  11. …ideally include a "Personality and traits" section on all character articles if information is available.
  12. …ideally include a "Powers and abilities" section for Force-sensitive characters and a "Skills and abilities" section for non–Force-sensitive characters, where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
  13. …include a "Behind the scenes" section for in-universe articles.
  14. …include a reasonable number of images of the highest quality to illustrate the article, as source availability permits.
  15. …counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 250 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc). Alternatively, a Good article cannot exceed 1000 words. Articles that do so should be nominated for Featured status.
  16. …be properly titled in accordance with Wookieepedia's treatment of Canon and Legends articles; i.e., no nomination may have "/Canon" in the title.

How to nominate:

  1. First, select an article you feel is worthy of Good article status. Your nominated article must meet all seventeen requirements listed above to become a Good article.
  2. Add {{GAnom}} at the top of the article you are nominating and save the page. NOTE: If the article you are nominating has been nominated for Good article status previously, you will need to specify a new subpage name as a parameter in the template (e.g. {{GAnom|Lorum ipsum (second nomination)}}).
  3. Open the redlink (in a new tab or window, if possible) and fill out the form according to the instructions provided.
  4. Copy the code provided to the bottom of this page.
  5. Purge the article to update the template.
  6. Per AgriCorps consensus, non-AgriCorps members are restricted to four nominations on the GAN page at any one time. Once one nomination is removed from the page as either successful or unsuccessful, another may be added.

How to vote:

  1. Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
  2. Afterward, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
    • If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved.
  3. Any objections may be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Do not strike other users' objections; it is up to the objector to review the changes and strike if they are satisfied.
  4. Once a nomination has a total of five votes, with at least three votes coming from AgriCorps or Inquisitorius members—two of which must be AgriCorps votes—after at least a week since it was nominated (beginning the day of its nomination) and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), the article will be considered a "Good article" and tagged with the {{Eras|good}} template. The talk page will also be tagged with the {{GA}} template. Alternatively, if a nomination receives a total of five AgriCorps/Inquisitorius votes—three of which must be AgriCorps votes—with no outstanding objections before one week has passed, the nomination will be considered successful.
  5. The article is placed on the Good article list.


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Trandosha

  • Nominated by: AV-6R7Crew Pit 02:08, January 15, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:A CAN that got too long. The original nomination can be found here.

(2 ACs/3 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 00:51, January 25, 2016 (UTC)
  2. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 07:22, January 27, 2016 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Because it's the forests, not the game, that make a world a hunter's paradise! Imperators II(Talk) 10:55, January 30, 2016 (UTC)
  4. Added the new character encyclopedia to sources, but there's no new info. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:29, April 4, 2016 (UTC)
  5. ACvote --Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 09:43, October 2, 2016 (UTC)

Object

Imperators II
  • I think you should section the article per WP:LG and provide an intro.
  • I don't see where in the source of ref 11 does it say that it was the proximity of Kashyyyk and Trandosha that caused the rivalry of the two species.
    • Cleaned up to be more ambiguous, but I don't care for the wording. This issue will probably be taken care of once I split the article into sections. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 14:19, January 15, 2016 (UTC)
  • Hmmm... couldn't the mention of the convor in Missing in Action be interpreted to mean that the bird is native to Trandosha?
    • By that logic, the momong could also be a native life form, as in concept art it is referred to as a Trandoshan monkey. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 14:19, January 15, 2016 (UTC)
  • Ref 4 does not confirm/inform that Trandosha orbits a single star like the infobox field does. And adding a source for that (like in ref 2) if you can would be nice. Imperators II(Talk) 09:24, January 15, 2016 (UTC)
  • Intro shouldn't be referenced.
  • "Dosha" is intro-exclusive.
  • Per WP:LG, info on non-sentient species should be in the Description section, instead. And you could add short bits of context for those creatures, just like you did for Trandoshans. Imperators II(Talk) 23:50, January 15, 2016 (UTC)
  • Currently, in the intro it is stated that Trandosha was positioned in the same system as Kashyyyk, while the Description section only says Kashyyyk neighbored Trandosha. I believe you should swap the two, since the Description section does not mention that the system was shared and in general it should be more detailed than the intro.
Jorrel
Ecks Dee
  • Some notes on your referencing: I can see at least one place where identical referencing is used consecutively, which means either one of them is wrong or the first one is unnecessary. Please double-check.
    • I was missing a reference to Journey Through Space. This has been corrected. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 14:42, February 12, 2016 (UTC)
  • As for your references 1+2 and 5+6, I'd recommend you go with just 2 and 6 wherever you currently have both. A well-written reference explains the logic without needing to double-reference. Make sure to link properly in your references too. 1358 (Talk) 21:58, February 11, 2016 (UTC)
    • Killed the double references. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 14:51, February 12, 2016 (UTC)
      • Linking is still an issue. Everything needs to be linked once in every reference as per WP:S#Rules #7. 1358 (Talk) 18:41, February 24, 2016 (UTC)
Cav
  • First things first - is the Netflix audio description really the only source that Wasskah is Trandosha's moon? Because one ref states that it is in the episode guide for Padawan lost but another sources it to the Netflix audio description.
    • The audio description is the only source that explicitly says that Wasskah orbits Trandosha. I think I fixed your objection. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 16:00, June 3, 2016 (UTC)
      • Okay, so if its only the Netflix audio that establishes this, how can we be sure its "official" and not written by a Netflix employee? Or is the audio description the same as the audio description that appears on the DVD? Because if that's the case, then adjusting the wording to remove Netflix would be advisable. - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 11:07, June 30, 2016 (UTC)
        • I'm not really using it as a source, so to say, but instead as something that clarifies what I'm seeing on screen. This mode doesn't go around naming background characters for the first time or anything like that. It's literally an audio "description" of what's going on onscreen. That said, if anything contradicts it, I'd treat that source as more accurate. I believe that this feature is exclusive to Netflix. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 16:09, June 30, 2016 (UTC)
          • You don't need to rely on the Netflix audio, which I don't think should be used either. The third slide of the "Padawan Lost" Episode Gallery identifies Wasskah as a "Trandoshan moon." I'm comfortable with interpreting that as meaning it orbits Trandosha. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:01, September 2, 2016 (UTC)
            • I defer to your judgement. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 01:16, September 2, 2016 (UTC)
  • I made some changes to the wording in places. Nothing wrong with it really except it didn't flow very well. Check out my changes and see what you think. - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 15:50, June 3, 2016 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • CC and I have just recently started on a campaign to clean up and standardize reference formatting for items from the TCW home-video releases. This involves specifying which commentary/documentary/whatever the information comes from within the set, which should be specified in reference 5.
    • Is there a specific way you'd like this done so I can apply it to my other articles that use TCW home release citations? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 01:20, October 17, 2016 (UTC)
      • The Season One featurettes were all named after the episode they covered, so I need to cite "Downfall of a Droid." - AV-6R7Crew Pit 22:00, October 18, 2016 (UTC)
        • Went ahead and did it myself. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 03:41, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
  • Non-canon material is included in the BTS when applicable. Is there nothing to say for this Freemaker thing?
  • Even though the specific segments of Episode Guides aren't listed in the Sources, it's still a good idea to source by them. Please see The Pilot's Lounge article as a nice example of how the overall Guide is listed in the Sources, but the specific segments, such as Trivia Gallery, are employed in the referencing. This article should revise its referencing to follow suit.
    • This article was one of my earlier efforts, but my other TCW (and Rebels) articles already use this format. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:29, October 19, 2016 (UTC)
  • Not an objection, but I've revamped the BTS similar to other nominations of yours that I've reviewed. It's more important to lead off with the most relevant source material for this article subject, which in this case is the TCW episode, rather than robotically listing information chronologically, which isn't always the best method for Canon articles that detail previous Legends material. On that note, I've removed the portion detailing the TCW Season One home-video release. As I also explained to you on previous noms, the way you're framing this information is partly inaccurate. It's not correct to say that Trandosha "became canon" when it was mentioned in this TCW home release, as if it never used to be, because Legends material was fully considered canon by Lucasfilm's standards. With that understanding, it's really weird and confusing to say that something that was already canon "became" canon in 2009 prior to the 2014 canon relaunch. I feel the way I've rewritten the BTS is more accurate and easier to understand, and I would recommend following this system in future articles that you write. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:36, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the critique! I'll try to take care of them in the next few days. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 04:27, October 15, 2016 (UTC)
  • Looking at this article fresh, the first thing I want to address is the presence of LEGO content in the article. You will probably recall this CT, in which the community agreed to start implementing a third tab for LEGO content. What this basically means is that as the author and nominator of the Canon Trandosha article, you are no longer responsible for LEGO Trandosha content. All of that should be removed and (eventually) worked into the Trandosha/LEGO article. For the record, we're sort of handicapped from implementing this third tab until Wikia figures out its new header situation, since it's affecting our Eras template. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 15:13, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
  • In the infobox's referencing, this reference-note assertion is not self-sourcing: "As Trandosha was located in the same star system as Kashyyyk..." It needs to cite that to something. For example, "As Trandosha was located in the same star system as Kashyyyk, according to [Source]..."
    • Done. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 16:02, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
      • I still think you're facing the same issue even with your revision. "As Ultimate Star Wars places Wasskah, and as a result Trandosha, in the Kashyyyk system" is relying on the basic assumption that Wasskah is Trandoshan's moon, which, correct me if I'm wrong, cannot be sourced to Ultimate Star Wars. You would still need to cite that to something. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:18, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
  • Same goes for this: "Since Trandosha is located in the same star system..."
  • Do we really need two ref notes for the Demonym field? If the first ref note includes the information, the second one isn't necessary unless the issue is contentious or something along those lines. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 15:30, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • I don't want to make this an official objection, as I don't want to be redundant, but I agree with Imperators regarding adding an intro. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 09:38, January 15, 2016 (UTC)
    • It will be done. I am currently trying to decide what pictures, if any, I'm going to add to the article. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 14:23, January 15, 2016 (UTC)
  • Maybe I'm just not remembering details from the episodes, but can you explain for me exactly how you're deducing that Trandosha is the planet seen in those two TCW episodes? Is it identified by name? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:26, September 2, 2016 (UTC)
    • Your memory isn't fault; however, evidence of this can be found throughout the episode guides for "Padawan Lost" and "Wookiee Hunt." Along with the aforementioned Trandoshan moon bit, the first episode guide show an image of the planet on the slide in the Trivia Gallery while referring to Trandosha. Also, the second episode guide says that "When Chewbacca says his home world is very close, he's not kidding. According to the Expanded Universe, Kashyyyk and Trandosha are in the same star system." Why would that be there if Wasskah wasn't a moon of Trandosha? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 01:35, September 2, 2016 (UTC)
      • Well, my concern is whether any of these Canon sources actually identifies the planet seen in those two episodes as Trandosha. I think the "Padawan Lost" slide is pretty weak to base it on, but I agree at least that this was the creators' intention, so I won't push it. Do any of these other sources listed in the article picture Trandosha or identify it as the planet from these episodes? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:43, September 2, 2016 (UTC)
        • Explicitly, no, but the Databank entry for Trandosha says it appeared in TCW (while incorrectly picturing Wasskah). - AV-6R7Crew Pit 01:46, September 2, 2016 (UTC)
  • Updated article to reference Star Wars: The Visual Encyclopedia, which explicitly confirms the relationship between Wasskah and Trandosha. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:16, April 9, 2017 (UTC)


Sakas

(3 ACs/8 Users/11 Total)

Support

  1. Cwedin(talk) 23:02, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:49, April 4, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Supreme Emperor (talk) 16:16, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
  4. Manoof (talk) 09:53, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
  5. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 00:06, June 3, 2016 (UTC)
    ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 15:35, June 29, 2016 (UTC)
  6. Assuming the remaining objections are handled. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 23:21, August 29, 2016 (UTC)
  7. --Lewisr (talk) 02:57, January 7, 2017 (UTC)
  8. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:31, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
  9. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 16:41, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
  10. ACvote Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 19:23, February 18, 2017 (UTC)
  11. Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:25, February 20, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Manoof
  • Should you have Alliance Special Forces in the infobox, as a bullet point between the alliance and pathfinders. Otherwise it seems Pathfinders are a stand-alone branch of the Alliance, rather than a specific branch of the SpecForces. Manoof (talk) 07:32, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
  • I would recommend making sure your urls are backed up on the archive. Also, does tumblr count as a social media site, and so requires a screenshot? Manoof (talk) 07:32, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
    • There isn't really a mechanism to do either of these things right now because we don't have a Tumblr template, unless you have an alternative suggestion. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:10, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
      • I went ahead and made sure the url is backed up, and added it to the reference. Manoof (talk) 22:12, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
  • Can we say somewhere what species Dameron and Solo are? Manoof (talk) 07:32, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
    • That seems like unnecessary detail. To my knowledge we don't require species-level context for each character who is referenced. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:10, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
      • I consider it minimum context for characters, but I leave it up to you. Manoof (talk) 22:12, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
        • I think the rank info, which is provided, is more appropriate context since it reflects what they do and how they relate to Sakas. If someone wanted species info they could look at their respective pages. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 22:17, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
  • In the P&T, can you say something about what sort of fighter she was? Manoof (talk) 07:32, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure what you mean by "what sort of fighter" she was. Other than being in the Pathfinders, which is referenced in the biography, we don't know much about her. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:10, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
      • She seems skilled with a blaster rifle, did she demonstrate hand to hand combat skills at all? Is it worth mentioning or not really? Manoof (talk) 22:12, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
        • She didn't demonstrate hand to hand combat skills, no. I feel like "skilled with a blaster" is already implied. She didn't demonstrate any particular skills of note, so the fact that she's Alliance Special Forces can speak for itself IMO. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 22:17, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
  • What do you mean by "black site", is this something that should be an article? Manoof (talk) 22:12, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
    • In real life, a black site is a secret base where secret projects are conducted. For example, there are CIA black sites where less-than-good operations have been conducted. What that means in the Star Wars galaxy, though, was never stated. We didn't learn anything about the base beyond the fact that it's an ISB black site, so the most we could do with creating an article is a dictionary definition. In terms of giving more detail about what black site means in this article, we have nothing Star Wars-related to source that to. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 22:17, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
  • My apologies, I know I struck and support voted, but I must not have submitted. Manoof (talk) 09:53, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
Floyd
  • "Nearly three weeks after the Battle of Endor, the battle in which the Alliance delivered a devastating blow to the Empire by destroying its Death Star II superweapon and defeating Emperor Palpatine, Sakas served with the Pathfinders, an Alliance Special Forces unit under the command of General Han Solo, in a raid on an Imperial Security Bureau black site at the Wretch of Tayron, located in the Outer Rim Territories." This is the unwieldiest sentence ever Brandon
  • Is the Wretch of Tayron the black site itself? The way this is worded it makes it seem like the Wretch of Tayron is a larger location that houses the black site. If so, I think the actual facility itself could use a link.
    • It's unclear if the Wretch of Tayron is the location of the black site or the black site itself. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 06:12, May 29, 2016 (UTC)
  • Is there really nothing else you can put in the P&T? She seems to have at least a few speaking lines.
    • The lines are pretty straight-forward, and about the actions being taken. Sakas doesn't have much in the way of characterization. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 06:12, May 29, 2016 (UTC)
Cav
Toprawa
  • I didn't want to have to do this, but I wasn't able to get a hold of Brandon today, so I'm leaving this as a formal objection and striking my support vote for now. Cav's objection above regarding the use of an Equipment section should be followed as he originally requested. Sakas' use of an A280 should be mentioned in this section, as should the fact that she wears the standard uniform of every Endor Rebel soldier. That's the purpose of an Equipment section, and mentioning the A280 in the Bio should not preclude its implementation. In fact, I wouldn't recommend even mentioning specific weaponry in the Bio in an article this short, because then it just becomes redundant. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 05:12, July 19, 2016 (UTC)
    • How would you advise sourcing the fact that it's the standard uniform for every Endor Rebel soldier? That can't really be sourced to Shattered Empire or Return of the Jedi. Should a reference note be used to say it's similar? Also, so you're aware, I am on vacation without internet access (just phone) starting tomorrow (Thursday) through Tuesday, so I will not see your response to this until Tuesday. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 04:01, July 28, 2016 (UTC)
      • The crux here is less on sourcing and more how you word it, which I would prefer to leave up to you. Sakas and all of the Endor Rebels, both in ROTJ and Shattered Empire, are wearing the same basic, standardized camouflaged uniform. That's what I'm looking to see reflected here in Equipment. If this were a ROTJ-exclusive character, that fact can be sourced to ROTJ, which shows us as much; I'm assuming the same holds true for Shattered Empire. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:51, September 27, 2016 (UTC)
  • I'd like to see the Biography divided into two subsections, which would be best accomplished by inserting a paragraph break in the second paragraph. "Solo and the rest of the Pathfinders..." is a natural division point. This will also allow you to use additional images and quotes if available, which I presume they are. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:54, September 27, 2016 (UTC)
    • Added. There are no additional quotes or images. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 23:30, November 20, 2016 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • "Sakas was present in the command center" - would that be the ISB base's command center? If so, please add the context.
    • Yes. I think it's pretty straightforward as-is, but I've added a word to clarify. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 04:01, July 28, 2016 (UTC)
  • if "Dameron told the story of how he and Sakas raided the base to his son, Poe Dameron," in Before the Awakening, why is the book not listed in Sakas' Appearances section? Imperators II(Talk) 08:03, July 27, 2016 (UTC)
    • She wasn't mentioned, but their actions were. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 04:01, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

Comments

AnilSerifoglu
  • (not an objection) Are Alliance Special Forces considered part of the Rebel army? Many articles on Wookieepedia (like Alliance Special Forces and Pathfinders) suggest that, but I'm not sure. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 16:57, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
    • Probably, but I don't think the infobox needs quite that level of detail (if that's what you were getting at—I could be wrong). That would mean 5 items were listed under affiliation just to mention Pathfinders. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 19:36, February 18, 2017 (UTC)
      • That was indeed what I was getting at, (also I wasn't sure about the army and special forces distinction after I read Rogue One: The Ultimate Visual Guide) but you are right anyway. The infobox is too small to fill them all. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 02:42, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

  1. ACvote Unaddressed objections for almost two months now. Imperators II(Talk) 23:17, November 20, 2016 (UTC)
    • Wasn't aware that Tope had replied to me. I've addressed the objection. I know that AC/Inqs don't like it when objections are addressed after a removal vote has begun. So, I'd just take this opportunity to remind everyone, before there are any comments about it, that it also took Tope two months to reply to the question that I left for him—and no vote to strike those objections or change anything about the nomination was commenced. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 23:29, November 20, 2016 (UTC)
      • Good thing you noticed the vote then, if not the objection. ;) Imperators II(Talk) 23:39, November 20, 2016 (UTC)


Ello Asty

(2 ACs/4 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 16:35, August 29, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Nice work, though I'm worried that, since he's confirmed to be mentioned in upcoming sources, the article may need an update. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 18:00, August 29, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Great stuff! Lewisr (talk) 01:17, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
  4. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 16:01, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
  5. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:01, September 3, 2016 (UTC)
  6. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 01:39, September 14, 2016 (UTC)
  7. The Brave Goldfish (talk) 15:01, October 19, 2016 (EET)

Object

Imperators II
AV

Previews from the upcoming book Star Wars: Poe Dameron: Flight Log have clarified that Asty is from Abednedo; this will need to be added to the article. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 16:19, August 27, 2016 (UTC)

Cevan
  • Asty's final words shouldn't be under the 'New Republic service' section. Assuming you still want to include that quote in the article, have it moved to the appropriate section, and, if possible, try to get a quote from Bloodline that's relevant to Asty. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 16:28, August 27, 2016 (UTC)
  • Is there any chance of getting another image somewhere in the article? Perhaps a behind the scenes image, or a full-body shot of Asty in his flightsuit (such as the one featured in the Abednedo article. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 00:25, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
Ayrehead
Floyd
Toprawa
  1. Some basic formatting issues:
    • I would strongly recommend going no further than two or three cascading bullets deep in the infobox's Affiliations field. Wikia skin's very narrow margins make the article's current presentation look terrible. I'd suggest toggling back and forth between skin views to see what I mean. Just stick to his most critical affiliations. Things like "Resistance military" are entirely unimportant here.
    • The Biography has more than enough space to be subsectioned, which will allow you to use more quotes and images if available. More to the point, this will set you up to use some image in the Bio, which is more important than sticking an image in the P/T if you have to choose between them.
      • Well, the bio did have a couple short sections. I was asked above to remove them and just have one bio section. You still think I should re-add them? Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:28, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
        • I didn't realize another reviewer made this objection. I can talk to him if need be, but yes, I absolutely think you should reintroduce subsectioning. Five paragraphs is a relatively long Bio as far as GAs ago. Anytime a GA goes past three, I typically recommend it. I suspect this is also a case where Wikia skin plays a factor, since formatting between skins can be so radically different. If you toggle to that skin, you'll immediately see the need to divide this section. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:37, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
    • Once the preceding objection is handled, the article will most likely be more aesthetically prepared for a minor expansion to the intro. Two sentences is pretty short for a Bio so long. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:04, September 27, 2016 (UTC)
      • Sounds good, thanks. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:28, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
        • You should do more to expand the intro. The focus isn't so much how many sentences there are as how many lines of text there are, which is a variable factor depending on the infobox, images, etc. In this case, two or three more lines of text in the intro would do good to complement the Bio aesthetically. The "eye test" applies here. Again, this is all with regards to using Wikia skin. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:37, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
          • Ok, added a couple more sentences.

Comments

Cevan
  • I'm not going to add this is an objection since you aren't guaranteed a response, but you may want to try and contact Pablo Hidalgo or someone else who works at Lucasfilm and may know the answer on Twitter as to why Asty's callsign is Red Six, but he's said to be part of Blue Squadron. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 16:02, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • I already did, and was ignored. :( Maybe @WookOfficial could try? Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 16:09, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
      • If that works, I have a list of unanswered questions for @WookOfficial. :P - AV-6R7Crew Pit 16:21, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
        • I don't like to bother creators with continuity questions on the Wookieepedia Twitter, so I'd rather not tweet the question. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:57, September 2, 2016 (UTC)
  • Okay, just to be sure before I make the edits: Poe's Flight Log puts Ello in Red Squad. Since this is the most recent source, ok to overwrite the other sources which put him in Blue Squad? Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 21:26, December 3, 2016 (UTC)


Hobin Carsamba

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:57, September 18, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: A brief break from Leia before I get round to finishing Junn.

(2 ACs/2 Users/4 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote I put the video game under the Non-canon appearances subsection per the new addition to WP:LG. Imperators II(Talk) 11:53, September 18, 2016 (UTC)
  2. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 23:43, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 17:48, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
  4. In the absence of a response from Toprawa, I'm voting in favor. - Pyke syndicate AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:21, February 7, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Floyd
  • This is one case where I don't think the Bio needs to be subsectioned. You've only got a few really short paragraphs. IFYLOFD (Talk) 23:18, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
    • It still looks a little chunky in Wikia skin, but removed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:29, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • We implemented GAN Rule 14 to make sure we never have another image like the one currently found in this article's infobox. I realize it's being cropped down, but there's no reason why it can't be much higher resolution, especially now that we have home-video access to the film. In addition, we recently passed a new image policy requiring images to be a minimum of 400px when possible. This image can certainly meet that standard, though it does not currently. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:11, September 28, 2016 (UTC)
    • Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:27, September 28, 2016 (UTC)
      • The body image, too, naturally. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:57, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
        • Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 17:41, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
          • Is that the best we can get for the Bio image? It looks really blurry. If you're altering it in any way besides just cropping, such as zooming in, don't, because it makes it look bad. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:13, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
            • Without zooming the previous version was the best I could get it to look, although I'll admit I'm no expert at these things. Which is preferable? Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:36, October 9, 2016 (UTC)

Comments

Ice

  • Nominated by:Sol PacificusFirestorm 15:25, October 18, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I looked to the featured article Deadeye Duncan for some guidance. I found that article to have more detail than I expected. It was from that article's example that I explained a bit more about the Attack on the Endar Spire that led to the Sith quarantine, but I fear that this isn't relevant enough to Ice's story or her perspective to be explained. One other concern I have is the note in the BtS about how her hair is brown in the Xbox version. I have the Xbox strategy guide where the pictures show her with a head like that of Iceman.

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Support

  1. Probably best if you remove the part about Bastila, and merely include the information about the occupation and the blockade. Other than that, all good.--Jace Onasi (talk) 09:55, November 29, 2016 (UTC)
    • Done :). Thank you for reviewing it by the way. This has been up here forever. >_< Sol PacificusFirestorm 17:02, November 29, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Good work! Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:27, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Very well done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 19:00, February 24, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Cevan
  • Just to verify, it's actually stated that Ice is from Taris, correct? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 15:44, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • It may be wise to establish that Revan was an amnesiac Sith earlier on, at his first mention. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 15:44, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • Done. I have look at past GA reviews for some other KotOR character articles where people have said that that information isn't relevant enough to be included in the first place. I'm guessing we don't have a standardized practice for it? Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:50, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
      • Now that you mention it, you could probably leave out that bit of info. Knowing that Revan is a former Sith isn't really necessary to understanding anything spoken of in this article. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 23:09, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • The behind the scenes section will need some tweaking since KOTOR isn't canon. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 15:44, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • You mean not canon to Canon right? I removed the mention that she's canonical, but I didn't mention she's from Legends, not sure if it's necessary. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:50, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
      • If you want to add in that she is a Legends character/KOTOR is a Legends game it wouldn't hurt anything, though I'm not certain if that's necessary—clarifying that may make it a little easier for this next part, however. For the second paragraph of the bts section, about the dark side ending, you may want to rephrase that slightly to make it clear that the "non-canonical" bit refers it being non-canon in the Legends coninuitiy or something to that effect. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 23:09, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
        • Do you think that is necessary given that there is already that tag at the top of the article identifying it as a Legends article? It seems a bit awkward to say "In the dark side outcome that is non-canonical in the Legends continuity" (which seems to suggest that it is canonical in Canon continuity even if it is obvious to us that doesn't make sense). Actually we might want to double-check if we're ever supposed to refer to Canon vs. Legends in articles at all. Sol PacificusFirestorm 07:42, December 2, 2016 (UTC)
          • I've gone ahead and reword the second paragraph in the behind the scenes section a little. You can take a look and see what you think. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 13:57, December 2, 2016 (UTC)
            • I just edited it. I removed the additional line specifying that it's unclear if Revan "canonically" participated in the dueling ring. I think since it has already been noted that we are only assuming 100% completion in the body paragraph, this makes this line in the BtS to be unnecessary, maybe even redundant. It would also cause confusion to have "canonical" in quotation marks. I think we might check up on others later whether it is fine to use the word canon within the Legends continuity. Really, the main reason why I removed the line though is because in light of all these complications, I suppose at the end of the day, we don't really have to say whether it was canonical or not? I did add that the player earns dark side points for it, and I had originally intended to edit the line to say that we are assuming 100% light side choices so that we treat it as non-canonical, but then I recalled that our assumption is only for convenience's sake when writing the body paragraph. It is canon (in Legends) that Revan had the light-side ending, but he might have made a dark side choice here and there along the way, and that's really my main mistake with calling it non-canonical. Anyways, let me know what you think. Sol PacificusFirestorm 01:23, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
              • Looks all right to me. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:27, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
Couple things…
  • This article should assume 100% game completion unless stated elsewhere. Please change the article intro to reflect this. It doesn't have to be long, just enough to note that Revan defeated her in the dueling ring.
    • Not sure if I'm allowed to disagree with objections, but I was always under the impression that assumption of 100% completion was only for the convenience of comprehensiveness in the article but not treated as a declaration of what is canonical. This, and the fact that the tag is necessary to clarify this, led me to believe that the introduction should omit extra details that comes with 100% completion because there's no tag that is applied in the introduction or the header for this purpose. Instead, the tag is after all applied in the body paragraph where such details arise. Can we be sure that the community is consistent on this? Sol PacificusFirestorm 19:33, February 17, 2017 (UTC)
    • Wait... did I misread, were you not talking about the introduction? Because the body paragraph already specifies that Revan defeated her in the dueling ring. "After beating Deadeye Duncan and Gerlon Two-Fingers, he fought Ice and emerged victorious, winning 300 credits." Sol PacificusFirestorm 19:36, February 17, 2017 (UTC)
      • The way we used to do it when I was more active before was that we put a brief summary of everything in the intro.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:23, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
        • That's not what I'm asking. I'm asking if that information should be included under the notion of "brief summary of everything" considering that it's not content that has been verified to be canonical. We assume 100% game completion for the ease and convenience of article writing—and add a template message clarifying this where the information arises in the body paragraph, but if we include that information in the introduction itself, without a header template specifying that we're assuming 100% game completion, we're essentially presenting it as 100% verified canon. It also diminishes the point of the "Game mechanics" tag in the body paragraph since we don't feel the need to clarify this when it appears at the introduction itself anyways. I have changed it as asked though, but I'm checking this up with the IRC. Sol PacificusFirestorm 19:45, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
          • Please do that, and adjust if I'm incorrect. All I'm going by is the way we used to do it before.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 19:56, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
            • I have done as you asked nonetheless. Is it sufficient for you to cross this out? Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:50, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
              • Thank you. My apologies for not getting back to this sooner.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 18:59, February 24, 2017 (UTC)
  • Linking in the quotations isn't necessary unless the subjects in quotation are not mentioned elsewhere in the article.
  • Is Bendak Starkiller's true identity relevant to Ice herself? If so, please provide the proper source for his identity of Gorse Bendak, which is the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide. If not, you should omit any mention of Gorse from the article.
    • Out of curiosity, did you mean to ask if Bendak Starkiller should have been referred to by his alias rather than his real name instead? Or were you asking if his character is relevant to her character? Anyways, I cited the campaign guide as asked. Sol PacificusFirestorm 19:33, February 17, 2017 (UTC)
      • I'm saying Gorse Bendak's past isn't really relevant to Ice herself. Of course, Bendak is relevant, but it's ok to just refer to him by his stage name here, imo.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:33, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  • Otherwise, very well written. Take care of these and you've my support.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 16:36, February 17, 2017 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • The sentence sourced to CSWE should be paraphrased a bit, otherwise it's almost copied verbatim.
    • Unfortunately, I actually do not have the CSWE. Pardon me, but I seem to have completely neglected that point when I nominated this article. :-/ I suppose the best I can do is to work with what you tell me from that book. For this line in question, do you think it would be better if I just remove it and incorporate the detail of her hiding her blast in her clothing into the "Equipment" section? The bit about her having earned a "devious reputation" I think is in all intents and purposes already covered and otherwise is just flowery language from the book.
      • The "devious reputation" bit is OK to keep, since I don't really see where else in the article that is covered. The part about the hidden blaster could go under Equipment, but since it already mentions her blaster and her armor, maybe it should better go under a new "Skills and abilities" section, where you could also mention that she was considered a confident and steady fighter by Marl.
  • Hmm... the CSWE entry has some more stuff:
    • The entry refers to Ice as a "gladiator fighter". Do you think you could incorporate this in the article, as well as adding Category:Gladiators?
    • It also specifically says Ice, along with other fighters, were chosen by Ajuur to compete in the dueling ring.
      • Since I don't have the CSWE, I'm not clear on the exact context of that, but I noted that she was personally recruited by Ajuur, which I believe means the same thing? Sol PacificusFirestorm 05:12, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
        • I don't think that technically "to choose" and "to personally recruit" mean the same thing.
          • Well do you have the book? Can you give me the exact quote? Sol PacificusFirestorm 21:09, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
            • The entry has just these two sentences: "One of the many gladiator fighters chosen by Ajuur the Hutt to compete in his events on Taris during the Great Sith War. Known as a devious fighter, she often hid a blaster inside her clothing in case a bout got out of hand." Imperators II(Talk) 09:32, April 28, 2017 (UTC)
    • The entry, most probably mistakenly, says Ice participated in the fights during the Great Sith War. You could add this to the BTS.
      • I haven't done this yet. Because I don't have the source, I wasn't sure if you meant the entry notes she fought in the Great Sith War, or she participated in fights of the duel ring while the Great Sith War was ongoing. Also, do you think we should say outright that this is an error or that it is most likely an error? Sol PacificusFirestorm 05:12, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
  • Context for Endar Spire needed.
  • Release date for KOTOR should be added.
    • Done. 05:12, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
  • Is there a quote on Ice's introspection about Starkiller's death that could be used for BTS? Imperators II(Talk) 09:10, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
    • Great idea actually, done. Let me know if you think it should be trimmed though, and I wasn't entirely sure of the best way to describe the context of her delivering the quote. Sol PacificusFirestorm 05:12, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • I think I should point out that the featured article of another duelist Deadeye Duncan doesn't bother to say that that is his alias. More notably, in the infobox his name isn't in quotations. I really think that we should be consistent in this. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:50, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • I've gone ahead and removed the quotations from around Ice's name to keep it in-line with Deadeye Duncan. As far as calling it her alias, I'll leave that up to you to decide how you want to handle it. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 23:09, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • This is really a minor point, but I kind of disagree with the changing of "the amnesiac former Sith Lord Revan" to "the amnesiac former Dark Lord Revan". Could you explain your reasons for making this change Imperators II? I always found referring to Sith Lords as "Dark Lords" to be colloquial, and the division of the term into an un-linked "Dark" and the linked "Lord" looks awkward to me. I'm also a little unsure about all the instances of doing away with the pronouns, whatever the technical term for that is. In a few cases, I agree they're necessary, but I think you might've overdid it a little and substituted with too little pronouns now. Is there a guideline on how often the subject should be renamed? Finally, I previously changed the first line's "that" to "who" because I have read that the two are interchangeable, only that "who" is more correct if the subject is a person. I'm not too clear on the difference, and I'm still skeptical of that rule, but thus far, that is what I have read when looking up the issue on sites that advise on English grammar. Sol PacificusFirestorm 04:52, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
    • Oh my, I'm so stupid. This whole time, I hadn't re-read the line clearly that the subject being referred to in that clause is the "Taris dueling ring" not Ice, my bad. Sol PacificusFirestorm 04:56, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
      • I don't see how "Dark Lord" is colloquial. It's not wrong to refer to Revan as a Sith Lord, but it's more precise to refer to him as a Dark Lord of the Sith, especially considering how the Sith Empire had many Sith Lords, but only one Dark Lord.
Regarding pronouns, you had whole paragraphs that used nothing but one or two pronouns. It was repetitive, but, more importantly, could potentially cause confusion, like in the first paragraph the pronoun used to refer to Starkiller could also be interpreted as referring to Ajuur. You can never go wrong with alternating pronouns with last names/alternate descriptors/synonyms, and, as I said, it's less repetitive that way. Imperators II(Talk) 09:32, April 28, 2017 (UTC)


FN-417

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:24, October 19, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Pretty sure this is the first person Rey directly kills.

(2 ACs/4 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote The first step on the road to the dark side. Imperators II(Talk) 22:19, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Nice work. -- Dr. Porter Resistance starbird (Talk|Contribs) 23:22, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Cwedin(talk) 23:26, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
  4. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 21:19, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
  5. The Brave Goldfish (talk) 19:17, October 27, 2016 (EET)
  6. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 01:58, November 18, 2016 (UTC)

Object

Dr. Porter
  • In the biography section, "human" should be referenced.
  • Some context on the First Order please.
  • "As the attack on the castle began FN-417 began moving into the surrounding forest..." a comma should come after the first "began". Also, I would suggest replacing the second "began" with something else so the sentence reads better.
  • "...attempted to shot the stormtrooper,..." oノ( ゜-゜ノ) you dropped this :)
  • In the biography, a reference to TFA should come before "NN-14".
  • The equipment section needs a reference to TFA. -- Dr. Porter Resistance starbird (Talk|Contribs) 07:49, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review! Should all be sorted now. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:41, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
      • Dr. Porter, feel free to add missing letters and commas yourself. :) Imperators II(Talk) 22:08, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • The fact that FN-417 received orders through radio (if it was indeed radio) should probably be mentioned in the article body, as well. Imperators II(Talk) 22:08, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • I'm not really convinced that the voice actor behind the radio contact is really relevant to this article. 1358 (Talk) 16:45, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
    • Fair enough, it was an interesting bit of trivia and since the character was never going to get it's own article I thought it might fit here. I've now removed it. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:56, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Mul Sanaka

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:44, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Damn, somehow I completely missed that IFYLOFD had replied to the objection. Outstanding objections addressed in the comments.

(1 ACs/3 Users/4 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote Let's try this again, shall we? Imperators II(Talk) 21:56, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:11, November 3, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Cwedin(talk) 20:51, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  4. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 22:31, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Comments

  • In response to IFYLOFD's objection, there's no indication that he necessarily even knows about the bounty, his comments on profit are solely related to the band playing at the club. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:44, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure if Xd's objection is still outstanding as there is now an archive link in the reference thanks to Imperators. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:44, October 22, 2016 (UTC)


Guts and Glory: A Chronicle of The Amazing Story of The Twisted Rancor Trio

  • Nominated by: Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:56, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: An article that exceeded the word limit for a comprehensive article nomination. "This article was nominated before. I tried to address the points raised in the previous nomination. I am unsure of the proper layout for articles concerning books. Also, I was very skeptical of referring to this as a "book" in the first place, as the only known version we find is a draft that is only a several paragraphs long. I mentioned this in the article's talk page. I suppose the author intended it to be a book eventually."

(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)

Support

  1. Provided EJ's objections are satisfied.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:02, February 20, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Exiled Jedi
  • The introduction to this article should be expanded.
    • I've expanded it as asked. I'm still not accustomed to how much detail an introduction should incorporate. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
  • There is some context about the band in the Slugthrowers article that should be mentioned in this article.
    • I cannot find any mention of this band in the slugthrowers article. :-/ Sol PacificusFirestorm 20:49, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
    • Oooh my bad. I did not realize you meant the reference article at StarWars.com. I used that source to describe the band as a jatz band, but I'm not sure if more should be mentioned. Refer below, this article pertains to the book, not the band itself, which is something I'm being careful about. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
      • I think the fact that they are a jatz band is important enough to mention in the body of the article, not just the BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
        • I've added a brief mention of it in the contents section as well, which reminds me, isn't it Wookieepedian policy for the things that are described in the introduction to be reintroduced in the body paragraphs? My current "Contents" section doesn't appear to do that, as it opens up as a continuation of the introduction. Does this need to be fixed? Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:33, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
  • The 3956 BBY date cannot be sourced directly to the game.
    • The game and Revan's events on Taris are set in 3956 BBY is it not? I did not write that the book was written or authored or published in 3956 BBY, but only that it was a "work in progress in 3956 BBY" meaning that at some point during that year, the book was not yet completed. We don't know when he began the book or when he finished it, but we know that Revan found it as a work in progress in 3956 BBY. Sol PacificusFirestorm 20:22, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
      • Yes, but the game does not directly say 3956 BBY. It gave an approximate date that clearly defined in other sources.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
  • Its mention in the Slughthrowers article should be mentioned in the BTS.
    • I can find no mention of it in the slugthrowers article, and there is no relevance of the band or the book to slugthrowers in the game.Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
    • Nevermind, I missed that you were referring to the reference article on StarWars.com. I have done as requested, but double-check that I did the citation correctly, as I have trouble with the proper format of citations that use templates.Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
  • Please include an image of the datapad from the game as it is an image of the work.
    • I will need help with this as I have no experience with retrieving images. I assumed that the process involved screen-shooting, pasting onto a document, then using some image editor to convert it to some means by which it can be uploaded. However, for whatever reason, any attempts to take a screenshot in the game results in a black-screen image. I did not formerly have this trouble with the game on this PC years ago. I'm actually not entirely sure we should include the image of the datapad in the first place. It shares the same image of datapad as many other datapads in the game. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
      • I don't have the game installed, so you will need to request an image from someone else. Sorry.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
        • Are you sure that this article would really benefit from the image? Because the image of the datapad is literally identical to the image of every other datapad in the game, including all the Star Maps. As such, I'm not sure if the image of the datapad can really be said to actually show this book, or if we'd be portraying it like the image uniquely shows the book while it actually can also be said to show the Star Maps, a water pump analysis report, a scientist's memo, etc. Moreover, the datapad isn't technically the book itself, but a device holding a draft of it. Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:45, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
        • I just added the image. I still disagree it should be included for the reasons I've stated, but I added it so you can get a better look. It's also quite low quality, but it's the best I can do. Sol PacificusFirestorm 11:55, January 20, 2017 (UTC)
  • Please provide a quote for the contents section.
    • Done, but I'm not sure my choice of quote is the best one.
  1. "The origins of what would eventually become the most famous band in the galaxy are surprisingly humble. The brains behind the group, manager Gilthos Uksaris, founded the Trio to earn a date with a young singer named Elinda." (introduction)
  2. "Davik asked Gilthos to bring his group in for a command performance. Gilthos agreed, realizing this could be the band's big break. Unfortunately, Elinda had heard certain unsubstantiated rumors about Davik Kang and his connections to the Exchange. Fearing for her life, she refused to go to his estate to perform." (6th line)
  3. "Many felt that without Elinda's singing the band would crumble. But Gilthos came up with a brilliant plan to save the group by hiring Elinda's sister, Ashana, as the new lead singer on the eve of their scheduled appearance at Davik's estate." (7th line)
  4. "Gilthos knew he was taking a risk. If Ashana couldn't perform at Elinda's level, Davik's infamous temper could have dire consequences for the entire band. However, if Ashana could match her sister's performance then Davik was likely to sign the band to a big time touring contract." (8th line)
  5. "It was a risk, but The Twisted Rancor Trio was founded on "Guts and Glory". (9th and last line)
I personally thought the last line was perfect as the introduction quote in the article. I preferred the 8th line for the Content section's quote, but I'm afraid that it may be weird given that it leads directly to the quote we have in the introduction section. I currently am using the 7th line. I considered using the first line of "the origins of what would [...]" but thought that might be too tame. Which line do you think is best? Sol PacificusFirestorm 21:08, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
I think that the one you selected is fine.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
  • Looking at the text from the in-game item, it looks like there is more detail that should be added to the article.
    • I intentionally minimized details from the text from the in-game item because this article deals with the book itself not the Twisted Rancor Trio or its members. The book provides a summary of the history of the band, the article explains the book and therefore explains the summary of the history of the band, not the history of the band per se. In contrast, I explained the narrative of the band and its members in as much detail as I could in their respective articles (save the band itself which I didn't work on). I tried to provide as much detail as I could in accordance with this policy of explaining the book's contents, not paraphrasing what the book narrates. Sol PacificusFirestorm 20:49, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
    • In other words, I am being very careful about making sure the content of this article has the book as the topic, not the band itself. Sol PacificusFirestorm 22:26, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
    • I actually wanted to add that we possibly could go for a "Plot summary" section instead. Since it is an in-universe article, we could write it like how Wikipedia often has a plot summary or synopsis section for books and movies. Maybe this is the better approach. My main reasoning why I did not go this route is because the text is actually quite brief, and I am fairly certain that applying as much detail as possible, the "Plot summary" would actually be longer than the original text itself, which I found awkward as it's meant to be a "summary". xD Sol PacificusFirestorm 01:29, November 17, 2016 (UTC)
      • Well, the thing is that the article should do its best to be comprehensive and cover everything that the original does. If it needs to be longer than the actual game text to adequately explain its contents, that is not an issue. You don't need to refer to everything verbatim, but you need to hit all of the main points / themes. Here are the main areas I think are lacking:
        • You don't really mention how Uksaris refers to Davik as a legitimate businessman and that the rumors of being connected to Exchange are unsubstantiated, but then he mentions the major risk and dire consequences if they disappoint him. I think these are important to note.
        • Also, I think you should mention that Uksaris wrote that if Ashana could match Elinda that Davik would likely sign them to a major touring contract.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
          • I've done as you asked. Those were indeed some important details I missed, even if I were posing it as a description of the book's contents, not the story itself. However, I had some slight trouble fitting these missing pieces in without rewriting the whole thing. I did think that it was good to note that the missing details explain the title and theme of the book.
In regards to mentioning that Uksaris seemed to suggest Kang's association with the Exchange are but unsubstantiated rumors, and that he referred to him as a legitimate businessman, I added it in the last line as:
"Though authored by Uksaris, he had chosen to write it in the third-person, but this did not stop it from being tinged with his perspective, as he refers to Kang as a "legitimate businessman" whose affiliation with the Exchange are unsubstantiated rumors—rumors that were in fact entirely true."
I'm not sure of this approach because I think it might verge on making my own interpretation of the piece, in describing its diction and implications. My earlier version to try to incorporate this piece was this:
"At the time that the draft was written, the invitation and the conflict that ensued were recent developments, as the narrative ended with Ashana replacing her sister Elinda as lead singer on the eve of the scheduled performance when the latter refused to accept the invitation for fear of Kang's rumored association with the Exchange.
Because Ashana's musical skill was untested and failure to please the crime lord could provoke the Exchange's wrath, the band was aware that the last-minute plot could endanger their lives. Nevertheless, Uksaris, aside from his skepticism of these rumors, was adamant that the reward—for Kang to sign them onto a major touring contract—outweighed these risks. It is thus in allusion to this bold gamble that Uksaris based the theme of his book: "guts and glory"."
My issue with this earlier version is that I'm not sure "rumors" clearly referred to Kang's rumored association with the Exchange as its 2 lines away not to mention in the previous paragraph. Also it doesn't refer to him thinking of him as a legitimate businessman, which I don't personally think we really need to explicitly state (i.e. I think it's enough just to say Uksaris didn't believe those rumors were unsubstiantiated), but anyways if we wanted to include it, I was having trouble fitting those in without creating sentences that run too long, hence the version I'm using at the moment. Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:25, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
  • Have you checked Knights of the Old Republic: Prima's Official Strategy Guide for any mention of the book?
    • I just checked. I can find no mention of it, even in the items section. The strategy guide is for the Xbox version, and I'm not sure one for the PC was ever made. It's entirely possible this little mini-quest was never part of the Xbox version of the game, which is outdated compared to the PC version. Sol PacificusFirestorm 20:49, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
      • Please try and find out if it was in the Xbox version then. If it is not, then that should be mentioned in the BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
        • As I said, the Xbox version doesn't include any mention of it. Wouldn't mentioning this in the BTS simply be to say that it's absent from the source? I'm not sure if it makes sense to write in BTS sections that an article's subject is absent from particular sources. :-/ Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:33, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
          • You said that it was entirely possible that it wasn't in the Xbox version of the game. That is what I wanted you to check and include in the BTS if it is not in that version.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 02:50, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
            • Ahh my bad. So a quick search online, I've found this, which seems to prove that it is in the Xbox version. If it wasn't, it should obviously be noted, but since it is, is there still anything to note? Sol PacificusFirestorm 03:01, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
  • I will look over the article again after you finish with these objections.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 15:28, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
Couple things…
  • Overall, some of the subjects in the article need describing, such as to what ecactly is the Exchange, the Lower of City of what or where, who Bastila and Carth were, etc.
    • Done. Always a good point, as this is my major gripe with Wikipedian articles :P. However, I thought "Lower City" was a bit self-explanatory, as the "lower levels" of Taris, unless you wanted it to be described as crime-infested. I don't think district is necessarily accurate since it spanned the entire city but a plane lower. I did add "of Taris" though.
  • Always link subjects at their first mention in the article body. Also, as I stated in the nomination page for Ice, there is no need to link subjects in quotations.
  • If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 16:56, February 17, 2017 (UTC)
The CP

Nice job, but I would like to see a bit more to the intro, such as the fact that the guy had it in a datapad in his apartment. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 19:51, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • Falls under WP:KOTOR.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:04, January 27, 2017 (UTC)
    • It does, are you just making a note of it or is there something more you mean by it in extension? Should I be joining the WikiProject? Sol PacificusFirestorm 15:32, January 27, 2017 (UTC)
      • Merely making a note. I was, and probably still am, I don't remember, the project lead. I'm back on the site... and will review this article soon.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 18:12, February 16, 2017 (UTC)


Skull Squadron

  • Nominated by: Cwedin(talk) 03:14, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:

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Support

  1. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 00:03, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Awesome stuff --Lewisr (talk) 02:50, October 29, 2016 (UTC)
  3. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 02:53, October 29, 2016 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 17:14, October 29, 2016 (UTC)
  5. Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:16, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Object

Imperators II
  • The chronology note has to be reworded, since only a part of the events described in the article, not all of them, take place in the third year BBY. Imperators II(Talk) 08:11, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Comments

Kaplan (colonel)

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:02, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: To be honest I'm pretty certain this guy died, but with Star Wars you can never be sure.

(2 ACs/4 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote Nah, let him come back as a cyborg arch-nemesis in Episode VIII. Imperators II(Talk) 20:43, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 03:06, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Supreme Emperor (talk) 06:21, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
  4. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 15:28, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  5. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 15:44, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  6. Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:48, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Imperators II
  • Please pay attention to details. The BTS quote is missing some punctuation.
    • Ah good catch, fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:16, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
  • Why is the name of Bay 2 inconsistent between the lead quote and the article's body? Imperators II(Talk) 12:53, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
    • Ah I was getting confused between the formatting from different sources. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:16, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
  • I created some nice redlinks for you to fill.
    • I'm fairly certain we've always treated ship's hangars on anything smaller than a space station as something that is just included in the ship's article, but I've gone ahead and made both anyway since there isn't any clear rule. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
      • Can you give me any examples where such uniquely-named locations don't have their own articles? I easily found some examples to the contrary so it's definitely not "always": Bay Alpha Two, Bay One.
  • Can any of these actually be sourced to the film - Kaplan's rank, Lor San Tekka's name and occupation, Hux's first name?
    • The names can be sourced to the credits except Armitage, I have a feeling the occupation can too but I've referenced the dictionary just to be safe. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
      • Ah, didn't check the credits.
  • Have you given a thought to adding the bit about Kaplan's reaction to the escape attempt from the novelization?
    • His reaction is just to stop and look at the ship before delivering his line. I can include the opinions given as narration as his though I guess? I hadn't thought to since the section doesn't exactly seem to be from his point of view. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
      • You know, I agree with you; it's too ambiguous, better leave it out.
  • It seems to me (and is stated by the intro) that there was an explosion in the control room, not just windows shattering, as is stated in the body.
    • I feel the word blast covered this, but added explosion to be more specific. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
  • The intro and the body slightly differ in their description of what happens to Thanisson during the explosion. The former states that he is thrown to the floor, while the body mentions him being thrown away from his seat. I think the latter wording is more accurate, since it's hard to track Thanisson after his console blows up. Imperators II(Talk) 19:25, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
SE
  • One small thing, in the body you initially say the TIE was attached to a support cable, but later refer to it as a fuel line. Can you clarify what the proper term would be? Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:19, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
    • It's called different things in different sources but I've changed alll mentions to support cabling per the novel. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:40, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Comments

  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but I changed "bay two" to "Bay Two" (since that's how the novelization spells it) and added "and" to Kaplan's line, since it is (however weakly) audible. Imperators II(Talk) 19:25, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
    • I was going off the subtitles, but the novel should be fine since it's more consistent with the formatting elsewhere. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2016 (UTC)


B1 grapple droid

  • Nominated by: Cwedin(talk) 22:45, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: A CAN that got too long.

(1 ACs/4 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:18, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
  2. --Lewisr (talk) 13:05, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:19, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
  4. ACvote I switched up the order of BTS since in this case it's more important to lead off with the more relevant Galactic Defense rather than previous Legends appearances. Imperators II(Talk) 14:09, December 20, 2016 (UTC)
  5. Nice job. :) Sol PacificusFirestorm 07:52, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Cevan
  • Couldn't the B1 grapple droid's name be sourced to Galactic Defense as opposed to the launch trailer? Both the game and trailer were released on the same day, and I would imagine the actual game should take precedence. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 00:56, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
    • The droids weren't actually named in the game, so the trailer's all we have. - Cwedin(talk) 01:06, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
      • Interesting. So they weren't named in the game's enemy database? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:10, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
        • Nope. That's why I initially misinterpreted them as plasma battle droids. - Cwedin(talk) 01:17, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
          • Got it—thanks Cwedin! Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:18, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Referencing issues: If a subject doesn't appear in a given source, that source should never be used as an outright reference for specific information pertaining to the subject. For example, the majority of this article is referenced to the Character Encyclopedia, but the B1 grapple droid is never even mentioned in that book! Let's take the first infobox field, for example. The reference used to cite the droid's creator suggests that I could literally open up the Character Encyclopedia and find a passage that says, to paraphrase, "The Geonosians manufactured the B1 grapple droid," when this is simply not the case. You're extrapolating this information from some indirect information provided in that source, which is fine, but that rationale needs to be explained in a manual reference note so the reader knows how you're arriving at this information. The same goes for Ultimate Star Wars and any other source being referenced in this manner. It may be necessary to use multiple manual reference notes for each source. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 13:17, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
Sol Pacificus
  • Even in the absence of an official policy, I don't see any reason why articles shouldn't be consistent with introducing in either the subject in the singular or plural form. Maybe it's just because I come from a wiki where this is a frequent issue, but I find this to be particularly glaring for this article. Could you change it to the singular to conform with most other articles (including the immediate B1 grapple droid/Legends, B1 battle droid, and B2 grapple droid). Sol PacificusFirestorm 04:39, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
    • The intro is now updated, and I'll keep the singular intro in mind when writing future articles. Consistency is key! - Cwedin(talk) 05:55, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • Is there any rule that the subject should be introduced in the singular? Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:49, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
    • I haven't heard of one. - Cwedin(talk) 03:50, April 25, 2017 (UTC)


Attack on Korriban

  • Nominated by: --Jace Onasi (talk) 09:30, November 29, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:My first nomination, so I humbly beg for your mercy.

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Support

  1. Cwedin(talk) 16:26, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Cwedin
  • Welcome to the world of nominating! Great job on the article! Just a couple things:
  • The infobox should have an event in its "previous" field.
  • The infobox includes details not present in the article (droids, starfighters, etc.). These should be added in.
  • The BTS section should be sourced.
  • I'll continue once these are addressed. - Cwedin(talk) 21:24, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
    • Finally, a comment! I've done the last two points, but the problem with adding a preceding battle is that the Invasion of Ziost, the closest known predecessor, could of occurred concurrently with the Attack on Korriban, however unlikely. To my knowledge, there is nothing in the game which indicates the chronology of these two.--Jace Onasi (talk) 10:09, February 12, 2017 (UTC)
      • Oh, ok. I think that for the article's sake we can just list the Invasion as being prior.
  • And I think that'll be it, actually. Nice work! - Cwedin(talk) 13:15, February 12, 2017 (UTC)
    • I've added the Invasion of Ziost to the preceding box.--Jace Onasi (talk) 09:41, February 17, 2017 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • As a rule of thumb, we use numerical notations in the infobox as opposed to spelling out numbers. The point of an infobox is for quick reference, and numbers are easier to read than words.
  • If the article is titled "Attack on Korriban," than the section should be titled "The attack," not "The incursion."
  • The name of this battle is conjectural, so we can't use "Attack on Korriban" as a proper noun.
  • I fixed a few linking issues for you. See the article history for that. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 18:37, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • I suppose it isn't stated anywhere in the game if the Invasion of Ziost occurred before or during the Attack on Korriban? There is a pretty small time frame between Ziost and chapter I of KOTFE, so it is possible that the two were concurrent.--Jace Onasi (talk) 09:30, November 29, 2016 (UTC)


Z9

  • Nominated by: Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:11, November 30, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Decided to knock this guy out before I really get cracking on Gubacher.

(1 ACs/2 Users/3 Total)

Support

  1. Shayn Mikel (talk) 04:10, November 30, 2016 (UTC) The article is about as comprehensive as it gets for a single-episode background character.
  2. Great work! Nivlacanator(talk) 05:41, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 17:59, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

Object

Nivlacanator
  • I would identify D-Suad. Something like this: "efforts of D-Squad, a Republic squad of spy droids". Nivlacanator(talk) 05:52, November 30, 2016 (UTC)
  • At the word "boarded", I would suggest making it a link to "Escape from Abafar."
  • A word better than pelted might be better—battered, bombarded.
  • Z9 should also be affiliated with the Republic Military, so that should be added to the infobox, etc.
    • Done. In case anyone should ask, the "military" in "Republic military" is lowercase because, despite the page it links to being uppercase, whoever made that page was in error and it has yet to be uppercase in canon. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 13:40, November 30, 2016 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • You have some infobox-exclusive information. Imperators II(Talk) 20:48, December 20, 2016 (UTC)
    • I believe that should do it. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:46, December 24, 2016 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • Is the droid's top ever referred to as a "dome"? If not, I wouldn't refer to it as such. It's not really the correct shape for a dome. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 21:53, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
The CP
  • Hey Cevan, a couple things. Shouldn't the antenna and the computer probe-arm be spelled out in both the infobox and Characteristic sections?
  • Also the word "approach" is used twice in the last part of the characteristics. Please try to switch it up a bit.
  • Nice job otherwise. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 20:06, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Imperial Peace-Keeping Certificate

  • Nominated by: AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:02, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: The long-awaited round two; original nomination can be found here.

(1 ACs/5 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 17:51, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  2. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 02:08, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:22, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 23:53, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
  5. --Lewisr (talk) 00:08, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
  6. Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:29, February 20, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Cevan
  • It may not be a bad idea to mention in the behind the scenes section that the certificate was first pictured in canon in Star Wars Rebels: Rebel Journal by Ezra Bridger. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 15:57, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
Imperators II
Toprawa
  • We should be trying to use an infobox whenever possible. For this subject, I think you would be ok with using either Artifact or Device, but if you wanted to be Superman, you could create a brand-new template for documents or something. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:44, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Cradossk

  • Nominated by: Cwedin(talk) 10:06, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Res Luk Ra'auf, indeed.

(1 ACs/2 Users/3 Total)

Support

  1. Would be nice if the image of Bossk didn't displace the personality and traits section, but alas. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 22:14, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:31, December 15, 2016 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 18:45, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

Object

Ayrehead
  • I think it's worth mentioning that Bossk was born on Trandosha. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:17, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
  • You'll need to include a separate reference for the 5 BBY date since Ezra's Gamble doesn't use that date anywhere. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:17, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
    • Done and done. - Cwedin(talk) 17:07, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Comments

Unification Wars (Republic)

  • Nominated by: Jace Onasi (talk) 06:33, December 22, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:This article has been severely mistreated, seen as how important it is, so I thought I'd make it a good article.

(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)

Support

  1. My reviewing muscles are very, very rusty, so I probably missed a lot. Gotta get back in the game. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 01:30, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Imperators II
  • Everything in the succession box must be sourced per WP:LG#Succession box.
  • I'm not seeing the need to mention the compilations in the BTS section, since they largely just reprinted the info present in the original source. Imperators II(Talk) 19:05, December 22, 2016 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • Could you flesh out the intro a little more? Maybe just one more sentence? I understand this is a pretty short article, but I feel a couple more details about the conflict should be added, such as the combating factions and the fact that it occurred after the collapse of the Infinite Empire. The current one-sentence intro doesn't really give the reader a good summary of the article.
  • BTS needs to be referenced the same as the rest of the article.
  • In the infobox, you claim the Order of Dai Bendu's involvement is speculated by a single historian, while the body states "historians." Please clarify if it's singular or plural.
  • Zakrinand Minus should be added to the "Commanders" field in the infobox.
  • I'll do another review once these are addressed. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 22:29, March 17, 2017 (UTC)
    • I expanded the intro with a mention of the Jedi, but I couldn't find a way to incorporate the Infinite Empire without it becoming too irrelevant for an introduction.
      • Even just that one sentence helped a ton. Thanks.
    • I don't know what you're referring to about the historians. They both look plural to me. Maybe I'm going blind?
      • Seems I'm the one going blind... Apologies.
    • Minus can't really be added to the infobox because we don't know what side he fought for. It would be speculation to put him on either side.--Jace Onasi (talk) 11:06, March 21, 2017 (UTC)
      • I must've missed the comments below. It's a tricky situation since we want all relevant information in the infobox, but doing so here would require speculation. I suppose we should err on the side of accuracy as opposed to comprehensiveness in this case. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 23:10, April 17, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • I'm not sure what quotes, if any, would be suitable for this article. I've only managed to find ones for the prelude and aftermath, myself. I think it is fine without them, but if any of you can find any suitable quotes to fit the four sections of the article, I'll add them.--Jace Onasi (talk) 06:33, December 22, 2016 (UTC)
  • I am pretty clueless as to what to do with Zakrinand Minus in the infobox. We don't know what side he fought for, I just presume not on the side of the Jedi, based on descriptions of Minus and the involvement of the Jedi in the wars. As it would be speculation to put him on either side, what am I to do about it?--Jace Onasi (talk) 00:38, December 30, 2016 (UTC)
  • I made a few changes. Check the article's history to see the reasoning behind them. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 22:29, March 17, 2017 (UTC)


Veraslayn Kast

  • Nominated by: Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:20, January 8, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I shouldn't be going over the word count this time.

(1 ACs/4 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Lewisr (talk) 02:48, January 9, 2017 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Don't limit yourself. :P Imperators II(Talk) 12:25, January 9, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Are split articles meant to have NOTOC? Ayrehead02 (talk) 22:39, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
  4. Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:36, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Be careful of using "which" when it should grammatically be "that." Other than that, good work. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 21:42, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Comments

Nightsister crystal ball

  • Nominated by: Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:51, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: "Oo-de-lally! Oo-de-lally! Fortune tellers!"

(1 ACs/3 Users/4 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 20:40, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Great to see more TCW stuff nominated, and Nightsister stuff to boot! - AV-6R7Crew Pit 03:53, January 15, 2017 (UTC)
  3. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 15:42, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  4. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 19:56, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Imperators II
  • No quotes? Imperators II(Talk) 09:38, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
    • Added in three quotes relating at least somewhat to the crystal ball. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 22:41, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
      • Nice.
  • Please expand the intro to mention the Ball's connection to Maul.
  • The artifact's material can be specified in the infobox.
  • Since you provide full dates for the Ball's later appearances, I'd like you to do the same for its original appearance(s).
  • Same objections regarding linking in references as on your Phelbos CAN.
  • Same objections regarding use of Cite web as on your Phelbos CAN.
  • Also, there seem to be some formatting errors in refs 14 and 17. Imperators II(Talk) 14:56, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
AV-6R7
  • Star Wars: The Clone Wars The Complete Season Three calls this item "Mother Talzin's crystal ball," while Ultimate Star Wars calls it a "Nightsister crystal ball" (no caps). Both sources came out before the Databank entry, which, until recently, tended to capitalize the begin of every word in an entry's title. I'd suggest moving it to the former title. Besides that, there is really no new info in these sources. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 22:30, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
    • Thanks AV! I'm going to incorporate all of that into this article, as well as move the Legends of this page to a /Legends title. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 00:23, January 13, 2017 (UTC)
      • Sure thing; happy editing! - AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:27, January 13, 2017 (UTC)
        • All right, both the Nightsister crystal ball page and this nomination page have been moved to the lowercase name (thanks again, Exiled!). Cevan IMPpress (talk) 16:12, January 14, 2017 (UTC)
  • Since the Nightsister crystal ball wasn't named in its first appearance, you'll have to notice where it was first ID'd in the Bts. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:36, January 13, 2017 (UTC)
    • Added. I wasn't sure exactly where in the Bts to place that info, however it's currently at the end of the section, my reasoning for that being to make it clear that the crystal ball was not identified as anything in "Visions and Voices." Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:41, January 13, 2017 (UTC)
      • Nice work. I'll give the article another once-over. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 01:42, January 13, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • There are a couple things I didn't really include or give context to (Ventress and why the Nightsister lair is deserted) as the crystal ball itself already doesn't have a huge presence in the history section and I didn't want 90% of the article to just be giving context and information that may not have been entirely necessary, however if anyone feels that these should absolutely be included in the article I'll do my best to squeeze them in. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:51, January 11, 2017 (UTC)


BC-714 luxury transport

  • Nominated by: Ghulavar Ø 19:30, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: As the first GAnom has been removed due to inactivity several years ago, here we go with the second.

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Support

  1. Great work! - AV-6R7Crew Pit 15:31, January 19, 2017 (UTC)
  2. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 02:30, January 25, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Nice job! Cevan IMPpress (talk) 21:15, January 30, 2017 (UTC)

Object

AV-6R7
  • According to SWCustom-2011 Back From the Drawing Board, Part 2: Repurposed Star Wars Technology on StarWars.com (backup link on Archive.org), the B -724 didn't actually end up appearing in AotC. Can you verify at they did in fact appear? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 20:40, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
    • Good catch. As the Fact File (F: TEC1-2) states, San Hill didn't use a BC-714 for his travel to Geonosis but a Hardcell freighter that went down over E’Y-Akh desert due to a malfunctioning thruster. According to this and to the StarWars.com blog entry you're right: The BC-714 does not appear AotC. On the other hand, the IGBC databank entry states that the ship couldn't be seen in the film "clearly". I think, that's kind of contradictory. I added that to the BtS section and removed the obviously wrong information. Sorry for that. Ghulavar Ø
  • Could you put a 1stm tag in somewhere? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 22:07, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
    • I think that has been in the Art of book and the TCG simultaniously on April 23rd, 2002. Shall I add it to the TCG as it's the more in-universe source or to both? Ghulavar Ø 22:16, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
  • The old Databank entry for San Hill called this ship an InterGalactic Banking Clan ship; this should be mentioned in the intro and somewhere in the body, where it should be cited to the Databank entry. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 23:32, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
  • The article I linked to earlier had concept art of this ship; perhap this piece can be found in full in the AotC art book. It would make a good addition to the Bts section. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:16, January 19, 2017 (UTC)
    • Both done. Ghulavar Ø 14:53, January 19, 2017 (UTC)
  • The outdated info about Hill using a BC to go to Geonosis is still in the intro. This should be fixed, since he only used one as his personal starship. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 15:01, January 19, 2017 (UTC)

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Baird Kantoo

  • Nominated by: Cwedin(talk) 02:59, January 26, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:
"My God, what have I done?"
―Baird Kantoo, minutes after creating a handheld superweapon and destroying a moon because blasters weren't civilized enough for him. (Seriously, what was this guy thinking?)

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  1. Nice to see a Freemakers article nominated! Cevan IMPpress (talk) 22:14, January 29, 2017 (UTC)
  2. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 08:15, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:34, February 20, 2017 (UTC)

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Cevan
  • Are we certain that the planet Rowan destroyed the Kyber Saber on was Mustafar? I was under the impression it could be Sullust, since the Alliance Fleet comes out of hyperspace over it and The Freemaker Adventures are set between Episodes V and VI. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:43, January 29, 2017 (UTC)
    • Fair point. I'll remove the planet name until more info is available. - Cwedin(talk) 22:11, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

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Unidentified false Jedi

  • Nominated by: Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:55, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Here's hoping we get to see this full story someday.

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  1. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 01:13, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Nice work; it can be difficult working with cut info. - Pyke syndicate AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:46, February 9, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:32, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  4. --Lewisr (talk) 15:32, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Sol PacificusFirestorm 21:00, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

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AnilSerifoglu
  • You can briefly mention the flashback scene in The Gathering, which was a nod to this story as Filoni said during the panel. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 01:39, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
AV
  • IIRC, Dave Filoni talks about Latrans in The Complete S3s Zygerria featurette. Could you check that? - Pyke syndicate AV-6R7Crew Pit 01:16, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
    • Just checked, and he does indeed make mention of Latrans (not directly by name) in that featurette. Thanks for catching that, AV! I should have the information from there up a little later tonight. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 21:22, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
      • Sorry for the delay; I've added the featurette information into the article. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 22:20, February 7, 2017 (UTC)
Sol Pacificus
  • "Tano was no longer able to feel the Jedi as a whole through the Force, something she had been able to do since she was very young and credited with saving her life in her encounter with the false Jedi."
I actually found this sentence really hard to understand, especially coming from someone who is entirely unfamiliar with this character and the story. What is being credited? Ahsoka's ability to feel the Jedi through the Force? Her ability to sense the false Jedi? The false Jedi herself? I think the syntax might actually be a tiny bit off. Actually after reading it several more times, I think I understand it better; you mean to say that her ability to sense the Jedi had saved her life from this false Jedi, and this is perhaps the only reference to this character in the novel? I think it might help if you also clarified how feeling the Jedi as a whole through the Force helped save her life from this character or what it means to sense the Jedi as a whole, though I understand the information is probably very scarce. Anyways, is it possible for you to tweak this sentence a little bit to improve clarity? Sol PacificusFirestorm 08:02, April 4, 2017 (UTC)
Here's the full quote from the novel: "Even the sense of the Jedi as a whole was gone, and she'd been able to feel that since she was too small to articulate what it was that she felt. The feeling had saved her life once, when she was very young and a false Jedi came to Shili to enslave her."
This is the only mention of the false Jedi in Ahsoka (or any canon material for that matter), and we unfortunately do not know how Ahsoka sensing the Jedi as a whole saved her life here—I imagine she was able to sense that the false Jedi was merely posing as a Jedi, but adding that into the article would be speculative. If you'd still like me to do so, I can try and see about clearing that passage up in the article as best I can. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:46, April 7, 2017 (UTC)
I think I fixed the sentence. However, it might make more sense to write it from the false Jedi's perspective. That is, to state that the false Jedi had threatened Ahsoka's life, but that Ahsoka's ability to sense the Jedi as a whole had saved her life. That might help the confusion, but then again it might not because rewording it like that make the "sensing Jedi as a whole" sound even weirder. What do you think? Sol PacificusFirestorm 06:25, April 8, 2017 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and rewritten that part—how is it now? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 19:25, April 11, 2017 (UTC)
It's good. :) Sol PacificusFirestorm 21:00, April 12, 2017 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • Check your image caption punctuation. Only full sentences should have a full stop. 1358 (Talk) 21:39, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • That's not an objection, but I have a minor suggestion. Maybe you can name Plo Koon's species, Kel Dor, somewhere in the article, considering the emphasis on his "creepy" and "sinister" appearance. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 01:39, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure if that's where you wanted it placed, but I've gone ahead and mentioned that Plo Koon is a Kel Dor. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:26, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
      • I would recommend somewhere in the line "creepy" and "sinister" appearance of Plo Koon, the story's hero. But it's just my personal preference, I'm fine with it anyway. The article looks great! TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 01:13, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
        • Thanks! I'll try and mess around with it later and see if I can fit it in down there. If it doesn't work out, I'll leave it as is. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 21:22, February 6, 2017 (UTC)


Krix

  • Nominated by: Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 20:20, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:Thanks to the bot I can throw up another Trando.

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  1. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 21:22, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Cwedin(talk) 21:27, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

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Cevan
  • Any chance you could add in to the biography that Krix was present for Garnac's endorsement of the hunt, as well as the fact that he and the others Trandoshans then grabbed their weapons before heading out that day? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 22:13, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

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Some new edits will have to be made. Depending on the lighting of the scene, Krix, Gilas, and Clutch become very difficult to tell apart. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 21:03, March 20, 2017 (UTC)


Rakata Prime

  • Nominated by: TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 07:41, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: The article now exceeds 250 words, so I nominate it for good article status this time. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 07:41, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

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  1. Cwedin(talk) 21:29, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 00:39, February 15, 2017 (UTC)
  3. I could live there for my retirement.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:45, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
  4. Sol PacificusFirestorm 07:50, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

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