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This page is for the nomination of good articles. This is not a way to showcase the articles of your favorite characters, spaceships, or the like. For a list of Good articles, see Category:Wookieepedia good articles.
A Good article is an article that adheres to quality standards, but cannot reach FA status due to its limited content.
An article must…
- …be well-written and detailed.
- …be unbiased, non-point of view.
- …be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
- …follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia.
- …following the review process, be stable, i.e., does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.
- …not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
- …have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic if the length of the article supports it. This is essential in articles over 1000 words but may not be appropriate on articles with limited content.
- …have no more than 3 redlinks for articles less than 500 words, no more than 5 redlinks for articles 500 words or more, and no redlinks in the introduction, infobox, or any templates.
- …have significant information, especially a biography for character articles. For articles under 1000 words in length, comprehensive detail is required with all information covered from all sources and appearances. For articles over 1000 words, broad coverage addressing all major aspects of the topic is sufficient.
- …be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Wookieepedia:Sourcing for more information.
- …have all quotes and images sourced.
- …provide at least one quote on the article if available. A leading quote at the beginning of the article would be preferred, though not required if no quotes are available. Although quotes may be placed in the body of the article, a maximum of one quote is allowed at the beginning of each section.
- …ideally include a "personality and traits" section on all character articles if information is available.
- …ideally include a "powers and abilities" section on relevant character articles, especially for Force-sensitive characters where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
- …include a "Behind the scenes" section.
- …include a reasonable number of images of sufficient quality to illustrate the article, if said images are available.
- …counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 250 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc). Alternatively, a comprehensive article cannot exceed 3000 words.
How to nominate:
- First, nominate an article you find is worthy of good status, putting it at the bottom of the list below. Nominated articles must meet all seventeen requirements stated above.
- Add {{GAnom}} at the top of the article you are nominating.
- Be sure to place sign in the "Nominated by" line when the nomination is posted for voting.
- Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
- Supporters adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied.
How to vote:
- Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
- Afterward, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
- If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved.
- As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Do not strike other users' objections; it is up to the objector to review the changes and strike if they are satisfied.
- Once a nomination has a total of five votes, with at least three votes coming from AgriCorps or Inquisitorius members—one of which must be an AgriCorps vote—after at least a week since it was nominated (beginning the day of its nomination) and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), the article will be considered a "Good article" and tagged with the {{Eras|good}} template. The talk page will also be tagged with the {{GA}} template. Alternatively, if a nomination receives a total of five AgriCorps votes with no outstanding objections before one week has passed, the nomination will be considered successful.
- The article is placed on the Good article list.
Good article nominations
To nominate an article for Good article status, list it here. Nominated articles must meet all seventeen requirements stated above. If an article has a total of five votes, with at least three votes coming from AgriCorps or Inquisitorius members—one of which must be an AgriCorps vote—after at least a week since it was nominated (beginning the day of its nomination) and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), the article will be considered a "Good article" and tagged with the {{Eras|good}} template. The talk page will also be tagged with the {{GA}} template. For complete instructions on archiving nominations please see here. Also remember to add {{GAnom}} at the top of the article you are nominating.
Timar Daragon
- Nominated by: IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 02:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: WP:TOTJ.
(1 ACs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
- This really has been on the page unfairly for far too long. Grae's objection seems to be fixed. There is still alot of resemblance, but there is no longer a cut-and-paste feel to the article. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 06:54, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
--Eyrezer 09:28, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
Object
- Paraphrase more. This cannot read exactly like Hok Daragon. Graestan(Talk) 16:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- I don't exactly see how this is a problem; all the info on her is included, and the only thing that really distinguishes them is that one is male and one is female. They're together for the entirety of the comic. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 15:17, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Fine, fine, I'll paraphrase. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 22:57, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
- Wording has been varied. I hope this will satisfy your objection. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 21:13, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
- Fine, fine, I'll paraphrase. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 22:57, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
- I don't exactly see how this is a problem; all the info on her is included, and the only thing that really distinguishes them is that one is male and one is female. They're together for the entirety of the comic. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 15:17, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
- This is still too similar to Hok. Yes, a few things here and there have been changed, but there are still several places that could easily be paraphrased, where you could easily substitute a few synonyms to make it so that there aren't so many sentences that read exactly or almost exactly the same. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 17:51, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Remove nomination (AgriCorps vote only)
Cut-and-paste of Hok Daragon. Nominator expresses no desire to paraphrase. Graestan(Talk) 18:47, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
Gorrm
- Nominated by: IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 02:32, September 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Giant monkey man with an earring!
(2 ACs/2 Users/4 Total)
Support
- --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:48, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
--Eyrezer 09:33, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 21:59, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 10:10, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
Object
- Farl-suggestion:
As you are nominating several articles that link to Merchants' Guild, could you consider creating an article/stub for Merchant's Guild? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:49, September 11, 2009 (UTC)- Created. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 23:23, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
- For starters, there is information which is cited as being from FotSE which is not from that source. Graestan(Talk) 00:42, September 13, 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 23:23, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
The article is good but it is not sourced properly. He did not appear in Funeral for a Dark Lord therefore he cannot be listed as appearing in "The Golden Age of the Sith" if he did not appear in all the issues. The referencing should also be adjusted like this also.Nayayen
(talk) 20:49, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed.
- One last thing, what is the relevance of the last sentence of the Bts? Do you mean to say that Gorrm got an entry himself or that he was mentioned in Kahorr's entry? Nayayen
(talk) 23:54, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed. Absent-minded mistake. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 21:32, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
"Kahorr had Gorrm give the police the pertinent documents; by a Merchants' Guild decision, the Starbreaker 12 had indeed been granted to Kahorr." This isn't very clear. Did they give the police the documents, and then have the Starbreaker granted to Kahorr? Or were they showing the police the documents to prove that the Starbreaker had already been granted to Kahorr? Also, please watch your linking; there were several links missing.Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 22:57, November 3, 2009 (UTC)- Addressed,
happened upon the Sith Empire, which had been lost since the Hundred-Year Darkness Find a better word than lost. Empires don't become lost.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 07:56, November 6, 2009 (UTC)- Addressed.
Comments
Horak-mul
- Nominated by: "For England, James?" "No. For me."
- Nomination comments: IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 01:30, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)
Support
- Ha-ha! Cool GoldenEye reference. Fits Horak-mul--Jedi Kasra (talk) 22:52, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Glad you noticed. ;) IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 23:29, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Didn't get it. Something to do with that guy.... James Bond... was it? SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 05:07, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Strike that last comment. It was on TV yesterday. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 01:52, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
CC7567 (talk) 02:41, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
--Eyrezer 20:38, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
- Nayayen
(talk) 23:56, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 00:02, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Object
- Attack of the Clone
Please watch your linking, particularly to events. I rather doubt that all of the related battles are linked. Also, if you're indeed trying to say that (what is now) the third paragraph details the Battle of Khar Delba, then it's absolutely pointless waiting to make the reference at the very end as you do now.- Addressed. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 23:42, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
- His cybernetic eye is nowhere except in the infobox. Mentioning it at the end of the bio does not alleviate this issue if it's not clarified what it was. CC7567 (talk) 01:52, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
- That poses a dilemma; in the Tales of the Jedi comics no significance is placed on the eye, it isn't shown to have any powers or benefits, or that he even lost his eye in the first place. What would you like me to do?
- From the Moffship of Grand Moff Tranner:
Place of death needs to be noted in infobox.- Addressed.
Context on Valley of the Dark Lords.- Addressed.
His artificial eye should be mentioned in the P&T section.- Addressed.
- That's all. Good work. Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 13:39, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
Same issue as my objection for Gorrm. He didn't appear in Conquest and Unification so he can't be listed as appearing in the whole story arc. Or am I incorrect and this is actually something that is always done with TOTJ?Nayayen
(talk) 20:56, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed.
Comments
- Can you add another pic to the body? --Eyrezer 20:38, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
Dor Gal-ram
- Nominated by: IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 02:50, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: A double nom with Horak-mul.
(1 ACs/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
- Jedi Kasra (talk) 17:45, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
--Eyrezer 20:42, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
- Nayayen
(talk) 23:58, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
Object
Same issue as my objection for Gorrm. He didn't appear in Conquest and Unification so he can't be listed as appearing in the whole story arc.Nayayen
(talk) 20:55, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed.
- The Grand Master
- There seems to be a bit of superfluous information in the bio, that really just doesn't add anything to the article for Gal-Ram. (i.e. the extra info about the arrival of the Daragons and subsequent events could be condensed quite a bit to just the necessities)
- I disagree; I believe this level of context is required to understand what is going on.
- Not really: it could easily be condensed to something along the lines of "Around this time, the arrival of two Humans, Gav and Jori Daragon, opened up a conflict between Kreesh and Sadow. Eventually, Sadow staged a Republic attack..." As it is now it consists mainly of fluffy detail with no pertinence to Gal-ram. We don't need to know that the Daragons arrived in the Starbreaker 12 during the Funeral of Marka Ragnos, that they arrived in the Valley of the Dark Lords, and that they were arrested and imprisoned. We don't need to know what both Sadow and Kreesh wanted to do with them and why. We just need to know that their arrival caused a rift which eventually led to Sadow's staged attack and self-declaration as Dark Lord, which caused Kreesh to rally his supporters, including Gal-ram.
- I disagree; I believe this level of context is required to understand what is going on.
Also, the bio could be broken up into more than just the current two long paragraphs.- Addressed.
- Nice work. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 18:14, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- There seems to be a bit of superfluous information in the bio, that really just doesn't add anything to the article for Gal-Ram. (i.e. the extra info about the arrival of the Daragons and subsequent events could be condensed quite a bit to just the necessities)
Comments
Koho
- Nominated by: JangFett (Talk) 18:00, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Poor
DenalKoho. :(
(1 ACs/3 Users/4 Total)
Support
- --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:19, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 14:14, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
- Koho's ultimate fate remains unknown? SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 09:33, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
- How could I not vote for a Denal-related character? :P QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 11:53, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Object
- Lee strikes again
Please source the quote.Please source the last sentence in the BtS.Possible something else will come, but otherwise another good clone GAN. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:05, October 11, 2009 (UTC)- All addressed, Lee; thanks for catching these.
- Attack of the Clone
You're going to have to find a better source for his death. Neither of the episodes or their guides explicitly confirmed that he died.CC7567 (talk) 18:16, October 11, 2009 (UTC)- Yeah, I was afraid about this. I'll leave it ambiguous then about Koho's death; however, we know that Denal died.
- It's sounding more and more like you're disregarding the whole review process that we went through (and are still going through, in fact) for Hunting the Hunters III. Being "afraid about this" sounds like you were just hoping that no one would catch it. It's simple: either a source confirms it or it doesn't. Nothing in between. I don't want to see this happen again. CC7567 (talk) 18:29, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
- I may but in, but I think meant about being afraid, that his sources don't work and not that no should catch them. Although it is not confirmed it is possible, but his death has no source.--Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:33, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
- My point about proper source coverage still stands regardless of whatever else happens. CC7567 (talk) 18:43, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
- I understand your point and apologize. No offense. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:46, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
- My point about proper source coverage still stands regardless of whatever else happens. CC7567 (talk) 18:43, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
- I may but in, but I think meant about being afraid, that his sources don't work and not that no should catch them. Although it is not confirmed it is possible, but his death has no source.--Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:33, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
- It's sounding more and more like you're disregarding the whole review process that we went through (and are still going through, in fact) for Hunting the Hunters III. Being "afraid about this" sounds like you were just hoping that no one would catch it. It's simple: either a source confirms it or it doesn't. Nothing in between. I don't want to see this happen again. CC7567 (talk) 18:29, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was afraid about this. I'll leave it ambiguous then about Koho's death; however, we know that Denal died.
An infobox picture, perhaps? I cannot understand why you lack a main picture and yet have one in the body.- Unless you want me to crop a image of him, I cannot get anything decent. He was first seen right behind Rex, and then later he's behind Denal. He's in a very obstructive location.
- You could try asking JMAS if you're unsure about the quality of the image, but you still need an infobox image. Rule 16 states that nominations must "include a reasonable number of images of sufficient quality to illustrate the article, if said images are available," which indeed they are. CC7567 (talk) 18:43, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
- I uploaded a temporary (Or perhaps permanent) infobox image, CC. :)
- You could try asking JMAS if you're unsure about the quality of the image, but you still need an infobox image. Rule 16 states that nominations must "include a reasonable number of images of sufficient quality to illustrate the article, if said images are available," which indeed they are. CC7567 (talk) 18:43, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Unless you want me to crop a image of him, I cannot get anything decent. He was first seen right behind Rex, and then later he's behind Denal. He's in a very obstructive location.
"Denal told the Duros bounty hunter to surrender, although their capturing of Bane was cut short when they engaged the latter in a duel, which resulted in the death of Denal." This sounds like only Denal and Bane were involved, but then you say "their capturing of Bane."CC7567 (talk) 18:29, October 11, 2009 (UTC)- Addressed; hope that helps.
- The Grand Master
"...the clones joined Jedi General Anakin Skywalker and his Padawan, Ahsoka Tano." Joined them in what?"In retaliation, Skywalker soon ordered Rex..." In retaliation aganist what?- Bah, both addressed.
Does any source actually explicitly state/show them engaging in "a duel" with Bane? IIRC, the confrontation, or whatever happened, wasn't shown on-screen at all except for Bane's apparent "death." Also, the fact that Bane escaped the confrontation might be worth mentioning in the article.Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 01:38, October 24, 2009 (UTC)- Addressed. Thanks for the review, Jonny. :)
- No prob. I'll give it another look-over ASAP. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 00:11, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed. Thanks for the review, Jonny. :)
- A few more
It's not very clear in the intro if the battle over Devaron and the battle on Bane's ship are the same battles or two separate battles.- Addressed.
"Serving under Captain CC-7567, nicknamed "Rex," the clones joined Jedi General Anakin Skywalker..." Who exactly do you mean by "the clones"? The only ones you've introduced so far are Koho and Rex. Do you mean them? Or are therme more clones involved?- Eh, it should be "Koho." Addressed.
- Ok, but does this mean that Rex joined, too or just Koho? And the meaning of the word "joined" is a little unclear here. Do you just mean he fought alongside them? Or did he meet up with them?
- Hope this is sufficient. :P
- Ok, but does this mean that Rex joined, too or just Koho? And the meaning of the word "joined" is a little unclear here. Do you just mean he fought alongside them? Or did he meet up with them?
- Eh, it should be "Koho." Addressed.
Parts of the bio seem to be following the battle more than following Koho. For example, when you start off the second paragraph with "As the clone troopers..." Does this include Koho? Try to tweak parts of this section to make it more from Koho's point of view.Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 21:29, October 26, 2009 (UTC)- Adressed; thanks, Jonny. Sorry for not addressing these eariler. I've been busy.
- No prob; I've been busy lately myself. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 20:54, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Adressed; thanks, Jonny. Sorry for not addressing these eariler. I've been busy.
Comments
Space Battle at Kuat
- Nominated by: Bvdrunner 18:27, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: I think it's ready...
(1 ACs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
- QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 18:26, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Keep up the good work :) Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 17:58, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
Object
- Its not. Before beginning any further review, you need to source everything. If you don't really know how to, I'll do it for you. DjMack 21:18, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
- No; if it appeared once or if the information comes from one source, then you don't need to source anything. It's self-sourcing. JangFett (Talk) 21:23, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, there is at least one more source, so this article does need to be sourced. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 12:32, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
- So would the First Battle of Kashyyyk (Galactic Civil War) also not meet the requirments for GA status? It also appears solely in EaW but doesn't cite the guide. I don't actually have the guide so if someone else could summerize the information presented in it that would be much appreciated. Bvdrunner 15:26, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it would not meet the present requirements. Keep in mind, however, that it achieved good status when the rules were not so strict. As for your request, I'll see what the guide has to say. Now that you've brought the issue up, I think I'll also fix the Kashyyyk battle. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 15:39, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks QuiGonJinn, that would be great. How much extra and relevent information is actually in the guide?Bvdrunner 02:53, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
- In the interests of making this a learning experience, try it yourself. Lol keep it quiet though, it might not be legal. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 05:25, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I gave it a shot. It is now sourced with the main updates being the information regarding the Sundered Hearts weakening of the fighters and the fact that the canisters were not gas but "orbital resource" canisters. I also put in the Databank source for the Incom info. Bvdrunner 03:23, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
- In the interests of making this a learning experience, try it yourself. Lol keep it quiet though, it might not be legal. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 05:25, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks QuiGonJinn, that would be great. How much extra and relevent information is actually in the guide?Bvdrunner 02:53, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it would not meet the present requirements. Keep in mind, however, that it achieved good status when the rules were not so strict. As for your request, I'll see what the guide has to say. Now that you've brought the issue up, I think I'll also fix the Kashyyyk battle. QuiGonJinn
- So would the First Battle of Kashyyyk (Galactic Civil War) also not meet the requirments for GA status? It also appears solely in EaW but doesn't cite the guide. I don't actually have the guide so if someone else could summerize the information presented in it that would be much appreciated. Bvdrunner 15:26, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, there is at least one more source, so this article does need to be sourced. QuiGonJinn
- I believe this objection has been taken care off.Bvdrunner 00:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
- No; if it appeared once or if the information comes from one source, then you don't need to source anything. It's self-sourcing. JangFett (Talk) 21:23, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
- QGJ
First of all, what is the source for the "c. 0.6 BBY" date? I don't remember the game being that specific in terms of chronology.- I also couldn't find it. It was a layover from a previous editor. Fixed. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
Rebel casualties: None. Are you sure? Isn't it possible for some of the escorting corvettes to be destroyed?Give some context for Emergency Code Zero.- Done. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
You need to create articles for the Kuat communications officer and the Tyranny commander, so they can be linked in this article.- Redlinked for now. I'll write them tomorrow. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
- Done. See Unidentified Kuat communications officer and Unidentified Tyranny commander. Bvdrunner 00:34, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
…whose careless commander had allowed to come out of hyperspace with the shields down. "Careless" is rather POV-ish.- I agree. I fixed some NPOV stuff earlier but missed this. Fixed. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
…the Rebels figured that they then had a clear shot at attacking Fresia. This is rather colloquial. Please reword.- Fixed. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
Expand the "Behind the scenes" section. See the aforementioned Battle of Kashyyyk for an example. You also need to mention that the battle was identified as "Space Battle of Kuat" in the Prima Guide.- Fixed. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
- Nice job for a first attempt. However, please watch your linking; each item must be linked once in the intro, once in the infobox and once in the main body of the article.
- I don't see any remaining problems. Thanks for the advice. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC) QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 11:29, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
- I don't see any remaining problems. Thanks for the advice. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC) QuiGonJinn
- Fett
- The Grand Master
"However, a serious complication arose when Antilles and his taskforce entered into the Fre'ji system and detected the Imperial I-class Star Destroyer Tyranny in orbit around Fresia." What serious complication arose? (If the "complication" refers to the Tyranny, then this should be reworded to better reflect this.)The aftermath should be shortened a bit. It's a little too detailed on the following mission.- Great work for a first nom :). Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 01:15, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
- All adressed. I hope that the reduction of the aftermath was sufficient enough. Only that one sentence seemed irrelevent and I added a link to the battle it referenced. Bvdrunner 05:51, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
- Soresu arrives with a dash of elegance
During the battle, the Sundered Heart was able to weaken the attacking fighters, causing their weapons to become less effective. I believe this could be dismissed and removed as game mechanics. The Sundered Heart's special ability is more of a game balance thing than solid canon.- Removed. Bvdrunner 16:38, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Are there any other quotes (battle report, mission briefings etc.) from the other missions in EAW that would work in the Prelude and Aftermath sections?
- It will take me more time to find these. Bvdrunner 16:38, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- When this is addressed, just leave a quick message on my talk :). The article's almost there. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 10:11, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- It will take me more time to find these. Bvdrunner 16:38, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- And that's all I can find. Nicely done! SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 07:48, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
Comments
W'iiri
- Nominated by: --Eyrezer 08:03, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: One more
(2 ACs/3 Users/5 Total)
Support
- JangFett (Talk) 22:31, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
Why is it when I read the word "scuttle" I instantly think of Doctor Zoidberg? Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 09:04, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm. I had no idea the Drall were first introduced in the Daley novels. ~ SavageBob 00:34, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
- --Skippy Farlstendoiro 10:18, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Grunny (Talk) 06:02, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
Object
- Skippy Farlstendoiro.
Context for J'uoch.History: "A number of W'iiri worked for J'ouch. (…) The W'iiri, being a trusted employee, was issued". You start talking about several W'iiri and then you seem to change your mind and talk about only one individual. Do you mean "One of the W'iiri, being a trusted employee"?- "
Nearly all the other droids were destroyed shortly after." Doesn't seem relevant for the W'iiri. Could you reword this? Maybe "Allies of these W'iiri destroyed all the other droids shortly after" (if that's what happened). - That all. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:29, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
- Does the article need to be sourced? There appears to be only one appearance. And I know it's not technically a requirement, but I'd like to see a stub for those redlinks :P Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 01:27, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
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Nartian
- Nominated by: --Eyrezer 08:13, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments:
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- Very interesting. :) JangFett (Talk) 22:38, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
- "Historic day" sounded POVish to me, so I cut it, but I won't cry if you want to put it back. :) ~ SavageBob 04:47, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
- So, I'll have to do a multi-armed species to balance your work? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:23, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 08:58, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
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- Skippy Farlstendoiro
You describe Nartians as traditionally serving noble families. Should you mention, when describing Nackhar, that Wuher and Chalmun are not exactly the aristocrats Nartians commonly serve?Nackhar's article says that he "also ran a fast-food stand in the Mos Eisley marketplace." Is it true? If it is, can it be included in the article?- You've got quite an obsession with multi-armed species, don't you? ;P--Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:36, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
- Ok. I've added the fast-food vendor bit. Re aristocrats: I added a bit to the final sentence in the History section, which clarifies your point and then also located Tatooine in Arkanis, so it is clear it is not one of the Senex worlds. How does it look now? --Eyrezer 03:22, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the review, JangFett. I removed the "planet of" however. A personal preference. :) --Eyrezer 23:16, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
Dying ceremony
- Nominated by: Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 15:28, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: "Well, it's not technically a Hidden One..." Jujiggum runs for cover anyway. Also, the first ceremony nom
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- Interesting nom comment, Jonny. ;) JangFett (Talk) 17:33, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
- Jedi Kasra (comlink) 23:37, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 08:25, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
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Metellos Exchange
- Nominated by: Nayayen
(talk) 12:17, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: I didn't want to fluff it over 1000 words for FAN; it stands at just over 900. I also wasn't writing this with the intention of GAing it but, I wrote it like that anyway. Why not?
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- Wanna see more of these…--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 13:28, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- I'm probably doing economics next year. Maybe then I'll have some idea what you wrote :P SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 10:00, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
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I'll review the article in full shortly. Taking a glance at it though, I do suggest you add a couple other images to it, such as one of Gryph as the professor, or something.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 17:08, October 27, 2009 (UTC)- Added File:Metellos 3.jpg and, to kill two birds with one stone, File:Slyssk confronts plaarvin.jpg. Thanks for the suggestion. Nayayen
(talk) 19:25, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
- Added File:Metellos 3.jpg and, to kill two birds with one stone, File:Slyssk confronts plaarvin.jpg. Thanks for the suggestion. Nayayen
- Here we go
?In the intro, the second & third sentences begin with "It". Can you change one of them?- Changed the latter one.
The Mandalorian Wars need to be mentioned somewhere; I'd like to see it mentioned in both intro and body. For example, the Metellos Exchange was auctioning trade franchises with the planet Mandalore for after the war ended.- Mentioned in intro and body.
I would also like to see the fact that Nunk Plaarvin was a Ephant Mon. Perhaps in the intro, but definitely in the body.- I added the Ephant Mon link in the 3rd paragraph of "History", please try to move it in a earlier spot.
- Ephant Mon is an individual. He and Nunk are Chevin and that is mentioned in the first sentence of the "Concept" section. Nayayen
(talk) 20:57, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- (Smacks head). I apologize.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 13:26, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Ephant Mon is an individual. He and Nunk are Chevin and that is mentioned in the first sentence of the "Concept" section. Nayayen
- I added the Ephant Mon link in the 3rd paragraph of "History", please try to move it in a earlier spot.
I believe it wouldn't hurt to state that Jarael was a female Arkanian offshoot.- Done.
Context needed for Slyssk.- YEEP! I had already given him a bit of context (former member of Raff Syndicate) so I added that he was a Trandoshan. Nayayen
(talk) 20:57, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's what I wanted to see.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 13:26, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- YEEP! I had already given him a bit of context (former member of Raff Syndicate) so I added that he was a Trandoshan. Nayayen
- That's all I have for now. Gutsy move, nominating a corporation. Never could fully understand economics.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 13:53, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
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Sonam-Ha'ar
- Nominated by: IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 03:20, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: He has a fine beard.
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- Jedi Kasra (comlink) 01:16, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Quixotic Jedi must be inspired in him. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:42, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
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- Just a couple…
What are the species of these Jedi? Memit Nadill, Odan-Urr.- I don't think its really relevant.
- Alright, then.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 01:16, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think its really relevant.
In the Appearances section, could you only put the comics in which he actually appeared, rather that the overall arc?- Addressed.
- Otherwise, looks good.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 15:35, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
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Titterbug
- Nominated by: ~ SavageBob 21:57, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: More nonsense from me! ~ SavageBob 21:57, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
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Hee hee. Titterbug. Seriously though, nice work. —Unsigned comment by Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing (talk • contribs).
--Eyrezer 21:57, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
- JangFett (Talk) 23:01, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Not a 50th for you, but...--Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:56, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 22:06, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
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It would be really good to get an image of the Titterbug alongside another individual to get a sense of scale. --Eyrezer 04:22, November 1, 2009 (UTC)- Skippy Farlstendoiro. Heya, Bob
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Can you create an article for "the pit" ? -
BtS: Any voice actor for any Titterbug? Even if unknown, I strongly believe you should mention it ("voiced by an uncredited actor"). Reason: No quote from any Titterbug. The text mentions only that they laugh. I cannot know for sure wether the Titterbug princess was voiced by a performer or only by some effects. -
Chap-chap! --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:56, November 3, 2009 (UTC)- As for "the pit," I thought about making an article for it, but then I decided that no more than a line or two could be written about it, and it was better to just include such information into the article Gorphs' grotto. I have added a bit about the tittering princess; it's unclear from the cartoon whether it is a male or female voice artist, so I couldn't use a gendered term like "voice actor" or "voice actress." Thanks for the review! ~ SavageBob 03:33, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
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Tuknatan
- Nominated by: IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 01:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Graaaaawk!
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- Graawk! Graawk! --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:54, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:01, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
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- Skippy Farlstendoiro versus the aliens
Per precedent, "unidentified" should not be used in IU articles.- Addressed.
Biography, first paragraph: Two almost consecutive uses of the word "However". Try to reword one.- Addressed.
Can you explain why a large portion of the Sith force disappeared? I mean: Sadow was concentrating to create the illusions, and Gav Daragon broke his concentration.- Addressed.
- I've done sofixit here and there in the article, hope you don't mind. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:35, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
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19,000 BBY
- Nominated by: — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 02:00, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Insert pithy comment here.
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- --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:20, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
- SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 08:34, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
- Great work! JangFett (Talk) 23:33, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
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- "Outside the galactic disc, on Kamino, the isolated world underwent a dramatic climate change." Reword this. gives the impression that the isolated world and Kamino are separate entities. That's all, good work. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 00:02, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Tweaked. Thanks, Floyd. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 03:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
- "Outside the galactic disc, on Kamino, the isolated world underwent a dramatic climate change." Reword this. gives the impression that the isolated world and Kamino are separate entities. That's all, good work. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 00:02, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Farlstendoiro and the Old Times
Intro: "East" is in inverted commas; I understand why. Could you reword the sentence to avoid unsual usage ?- Ok, I do not see the violation considering the colloquial nature of it from an in-universe perspective, but I'll relent. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 03:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
The galaxy in: This paragraph has two distinct parts: about Kamino and about elsewhere. Could you divide the section in two paragraphs? Also, Impact.- I do understand why you ask this and thought long about this. Why it was left alone: This was done to prevent short paragraphs that would not meet proper English writing conventions. The Impact section would have a violating paragraph due to number of sentences. To keep the parallel construction—as well as the fact that the second paragraph of The galaxy... would also be in violation due to sentence structure—it is best to leave them together as one. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 03:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
Footnotes: Could you replace "Simple math" with some other expression?- This was used as provided in WP:NOR and has been used for all the other dates that have been made into GAs to qualify that simple (or basic) math was used to derive the information rather than original research. I am just complying with the guidelines. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 03:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
- Good work. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:25, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you, Skippy.
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18,780 BBY
- Nominated by: — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 02:00, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: We are never informed how the tower was destroyed. I wish we did know. It would have made this article much juicier.
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IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 00:05, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 10:09, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Hee hee hee…--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 00:58, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
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Shar Dakhan
- Nominated by: IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 02:47, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Heh. I was worried that I couldn't get this over 250 words.
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- For Farlstendoiro!
- No quotes? Rewording: As there are quotes available, would you consider adding one or more?
- ..."ruled over the world of Ch'hodos, which served as his central base,[1] located in the northern part of the Unknown Regions...[2]" I understand you want to reduce footnotes to a minimum, which is laudable, but I suggest rewording this sentence, as it seems that "his base is located in the northern part".
- "were repelled and eventually defeated." This seems important, do we know any details? Battle, opposing commanders, anything?
- Shar Dakhan? Related to San Dokan? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:20, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Tommy:
- It appears that Shar Dakhan led the assault on Coruscant, so you might want to expand the article to reflect this.
- To touch on Skippy's point above, there are quotes, as found in First Encounter.
- As usual, there is some underlinking. A Wookieepedian of your caliber should not have to be reminded repeatedly of things like this. Please address.
- That's all.—Tommy9281
(No truth in me) 16:00, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
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Kadir (Tarisian)
- Nominated by: SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 09:31, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Did someone order more KOTOR minor NPC's?
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- The 100% game completion section was one of his more exciting days. Nayayen
(talk) 10:02, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
- He has an image and everything. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 10:16, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
- Heh, love this old geezer…--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 03:48, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
Grunny (Talk) 11:48, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
Great work. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 21:05, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:35, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
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One thing for you: The sentences in the first paragraph of the bio are very repetitive in structure: "on the latest news, but as he grew older" "of the building, but Kadir claimed" "multiple times, but his requests" "Upper City decent, but was". Could you vary this up a little? Otherwise, great work. Grunny (Talk) 11:17, November 7, 2009 (UTC)- Mixed it up a little. Thanks for the review, Grunny. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 11:44, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
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- Quote from 70.59.73.30: Kadir rules!!! He is the best character in the game. He talks about the Cantina every five seconds and he begins shouting in the middle of a sentence! I agree. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 09:31, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
- I removed the links to "South Apartments", they redirect to Upper City. Nayayen
(talk) 10:02, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
- Actually I plan to create that article, after I discuss a few notability issues with Cylka when she's back. That's why I put the link in. I'm afraid I'll forget if I wait for the article to actually go up. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 10:23, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
- I'd say just go ahead and create the article. Although it's been a long while since I played the game, "South Apartments" seems to be mentioned in enough articles to appear notable. Grunny (Talk) 11:17, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- I'll get a stub in tomorrow, and expand over the next few days. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 11:43, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- I'd say just go ahead and create the article. Although it's been a long while since I played the game, "South Apartments" seems to be mentioned in enough articles to appear notable. Grunny (Talk) 11:17, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Actually I plan to create that article, after I discuss a few notability issues with Cylka when she's back. That's why I put the link in. I'm afraid I'll forget if I wait for the article to actually go up. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 10:23, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
Cephalon
- Nominated by: Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 21:05, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: A rather odd species from Street of Shadows
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--Eyrezer 03:22, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Skippy/Several people/Noone votes/has voted/is voting/will vote/shall vote for this article/several articles/other article/no article.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:28, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Looks good! I tried to switch out some passive voice for active; please make sure I didn't introduce any inaccuracy. ~ SavageBob 21:43, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- I had to change a few things that could be misinterpreted the wrong way (Cephalons probably didn't employ the computers themselves, as the wording suggested) or were not completely confirmed, but thanks for the review! Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 21:53, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- I certainly need to write a sentient species article. :P JangFett (Talk) 23:30, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
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Looking at the CUSWE entry on this species, it seems to have some information that is missing from this article. For instance, the rumor of an Inquisator going nuts, the term "hypermanifold", "electro-receptive" matrix. If these are in the novel, can you flesh it out a bit more? --Eyrezer 04:51, November 8, 2009 (UTC)- Checked SoS, and I did have a two things missing, which I've added (one of them about the "electroceptive matrice," (the "electro-receptive matrix" referred to in the CUSWE). Also, as the Imperial was only rumored to have gone mad trying to understand Cephalons' four-dimensional consciousness, I figured this wasn't hard enough fact to put in the article. However, I will add it if you think I should. Also, the "hypermanifold" simply describes the Cephalon's state of perception in four-dimensions: According to I-5, "They conceptualize space and time as a four-dimensional hypermanifold." As such, I don't think it's really necessary, but I'll add it too, if you think I should. Thanks for the review. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 14:17, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, I'd like the rumor added. It adds a bit of flavour. It would be nice to have "hypermanifold" in there - sounds like a a nice technical term to include. --Eyrezer 05:00, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
- No problem; done. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 16:42, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, I'd like the rumor added. It adds a bit of flavour. It would be nice to have "hypermanifold" in there - sounds like a a nice technical term to include. --Eyrezer 05:00, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
- Checked SoS, and I did have a two things missing, which I've added (one of them about the "electroceptive matrice," (the "electro-receptive matrix" referred to in the CUSWE). Also, as the Imperial was only rumored to have gone mad trying to understand Cephalons' four-dimensional consciousness, I figured this wasn't hard enough fact to put in the article. However, I will add it if you think I should. Also, the "hypermanifold" simply describes the Cephalon's state of perception in four-dimensions: According to I-5, "They conceptualize space and time as a four-dimensional hypermanifold." As such, I don't think it's really necessary, but I'll add it too, if you think I should. Thanks for the review. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 14:17, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
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- Shouldn't the article be at "electroreceptive matrix" rather than "electroreceptive matrice"? ~ SavageBob 23:24, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Well, the novel refers to them as "electroceptive matrices". Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 23:28, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- FWIW, "matrices" is the plural of "matrix" so it should be moved to the singular form. Nayayen
(talk) 23:35, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Oops, ok, done. Lol sorry about that :P Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 23:39, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- FWIW, "matrices" is the plural of "matrix" so it should be moved to the singular form. Nayayen
- Well, the novel refers to them as "electroceptive matrices". Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 23:28, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
Tho'natu
- Nominated by: Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 21:34, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: What is Jujiggum doing? These noms aren't FotJ!
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- I can't decide whether to sigh with relief or gasp at this blasphemy! SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 23:30, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Strange not seeing a FotJ article from you, Jonny. :P JangFett (Talk) 22:38, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
A return to where your GA career began :). Grunny (Talk) 04:53, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, memories :'-) Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 12:59, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
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Tyzen Xebec
- Nominated by: JangFett (Talk) 22:18, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: TCW's second Padawan. I have to admit, it's good to get away from clone articles. :P
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- From the guy who wrote his master's article...
- In the intro you say he accompanied his master into battle, but then you say he was with Ganch. He was never with his master during the battle of Devaron, so that would be incorrect.
- The general wording and chronology of the battle in the intro's first paragraph is both messy and incorrect. It needs a complete overhaul.
- "Braces" of what and stream of water from where? This makes no sense as it stands now.
- There's no indication that those were Xebec's quarters in the latest release.
- Intro's second paragraph is similarily sloppy. It needs a rewording and reworking.
- You say the red alert caused panic, but that's never seen in the comic.
- There's a whole bunch of other stuff that you're going to have to get from me on the IRC.
- Darth Trayus
(Trayus Academy) 05:48, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
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