- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
Battle of Queel[]
- Nominated by: QuiGonJinn (Talk) 15:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: More TCW
(4 ACs/4 Users/8 Total)[]
Support
- MauserComlink 16:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 02:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- —Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 21:56, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- CC7567 (talk) 23:22, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- Graestan(Talk) 17:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
- JangFett Talk 17:57, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
- --Eyrezer 03:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Object
- IFYLOFD:
Missing Aftermath section.- It is not really stated what happened on Queel after Skywalker and Tano left. After that point, the only mention of the battle comes at the very end of the comic. Skywalker and Tano contact Kenobi, who says the phrase used as the main quote in the article. However, Kenobi's words do not explain if he won, lost or was still fighting when Skywalker contacted him, so there can't be any aftermath section. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 08:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Mention in the intro that Anakin and Obi-Wan were Jedi.- Mentioned.
Is CC-7567's nickname really necessary?- I think so. IMO, it is unnecessary to state CC-2224's nickname, because he is mentioned only once. CC-7567, however, is mentioned several times in the article and I find it easier to call him Rex.
"Tano then hurtled one of the artillery shells at the remaining guns," I don't think hurtled is the appropriate word here. I would think just putting "Force pushed" would be better, but do as you see fit.- Addressed, I guess
Is there an article for the Separatist agent who stole the data file? If so link to it, and if not create one.- Linked.
- Nice work. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 21:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 09:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- Mauser:
?It's Acclamator, not Venator in the comic.=)- Whatever :P
Casualties: both light and heavy will not do. GAR lost at least one ISP with clones aboard, the CIS lost the artillery cannon and at least one DSD.- Addressed.
At least one more image is needed.- Added.
Add {{youmay}} to the Battle of Quell - i'm too lazy to do it myself today.- Added. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 14:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
No mention of that green water creature - whatever it's name is.- Mentioned. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 15:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- Otherwise looks very solid. MauserComlink 12:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- Toprawa:
I'd prefer to see the body of the article split into "Prelude" and "Aftermath" sections, as short as they will probably be. I will leave it up to you to determine where best to divide the information. Also, don't be afraid to expand a little bit on the information in these before and after sections.Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)- As for the aftermath section, there can't be any. See response to Floyd's objection. And the whole "Prelude" is basically only the first sentence, so I don't think that it deserves its own section. And no, it can't be expanded in any way, because of lack of information in the source. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 08:37, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- After looking at this a bit more closely, I agree a Prelude section is unwarranted. I would have been inclined to agree with you on the Aftermath section until I read the Mission to Mon Gazza Prelude section, which does a much better descriptive job of transitioning between the Battle of Queel and Mon Gazza than I'm seeing here. Read the last three or four sentences of that section. That's what I'm looking for. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- As I understand it, "aftermath" means a "consequence" of a battle, meaning that the events in the aftermath section must take place after the battle itself is over. Skywalker and Tano, however, left Queel while the battle there still continued, therefore their departure is the "prelude" to the Mission to Mon Gazza, but not really the aftermath of the battle of Queel. I'll make the aftermath section if you still want me to, but I think it is not applicable in this case. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 09:36, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Very well, you've convinced me. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- As I understand it, "aftermath" means a "consequence" of a battle, meaning that the events in the aftermath section must take place after the battle itself is over. Skywalker and Tano, however, left Queel while the battle there still continued, therefore their departure is the "prelude" to the Mission to Mon Gazza, but not really the aftermath of the battle of Queel. I'll make the aftermath section if you still want me to, but I think it is not applicable in this case. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 09:36, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- After looking at this a bit more closely, I agree a Prelude section is unwarranted. I would have been inclined to agree with you on the Aftermath section until I read the Mission to Mon Gazza Prelude section, which does a much better descriptive job of transitioning between the Battle of Queel and Mon Gazza than I'm seeing here. Read the last three or four sentences of that section. That's what I'm looking for. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- As for the aftermath section, there can't be any. See response to Floyd's objection. And the whole "Prelude" is basically only the first sentence, so I don't think that it deserves its own section. And no, it can't be expanded in any way, because of lack of information in the source. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 08:37, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
You leave a redlink for the Republic base but do not do so for the Confederate command center. Please do so.Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)- An addendum to this objection: You'll need to actually create an article for this since this would leave a redlink in the introduction. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Both redlinks killed. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 10:37, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- An addendum to this objection: You'll need to actually create an article for this since this would leave a redlink in the introduction. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 23:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- Some fixes: This article is named through conjecture. If nowhere in canon is a conflict referred to by name, this will always be the case. I went ahead and put the conjecture tag up. I also removed the named reference to the battle from the article text. Finally, "the battle was a battle that" is pretty darned extraneous; let's see if we can avoid that sort of thing in the future. Graestan(Talk) 17:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)