- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a Good article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.
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Nub[]
- Nominated by: ComicalNinja [Talk] 15:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: I'm getting back into editing, I've worked on this page a lot and I feel it's ready for nomination. Nub/Legends is already a GA, this is for the Canon article.
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Macaroni[]
Article body should explicitly mention that Nub is a nickname and not his actual name. That can be mentioned in the intro as well.- Done. ComicalNinja [Talk]
Your body image can be increased in size.- Increased it to 250px, is that good? ComicalNinja [Talk]
You've got some incorrect tense in the first body paragraph.- Fixed it. ComicalNinja [Talk]
22 BBY needs to be sourced to the ref note in the body.- Done. ComicalNinja [Talk]
You should mention the location of death in the date ref note so that only one is required for that infobox field. See Mixer as an example.- Is that good? ComicalNinja [Talk]
You can't directly source all of the information to the DB entry for clones—it needs a note. Again, see Mixer as an example.JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 15:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)- Done. ComicalNinja [Talk] 15:43, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Your last three paragraphs in Biography are all pretty short, I'd say you can merge two of them.- Seems Erebus already objected to this, I'll let you respond to him. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 00:57, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- "had little to no combat experience" -- does the episode or episode guide actually say this? It seems a bit speculatory. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 23:33, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Lewis[]
The info about his armor in P&T should be moved to an equipment section, if he wielded any weapons that should also be included.- Wrote an Equipment section. ComicalNinja [Talk] 18:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think you can just mention the armor, unless sleek is used in a source? Also if he didn't use any weapons then the second sentence is unnecessary.
- I presume that whoever wrote "sleek" was referring to the armor's shininess/glossiness, which is a rather important thing to note. Also, I think the second sentence is necessary because you'd think he would have a blaster like other clones but he doesn't. Besides, if you remove the sentence, then the equipment section seems like it's missing things. ComicalNinja [Talk] 19:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- I spoke with UberSoldat93 and Imperators about the second sentence in the equipment section, both agreed that including the sentence was unnecessary, and that we don't document what someone didn't have at a particular time or the non-existence of things. Also spoke with Shay regarding the sleek part, just saying he wore phase 1 armor was sufficient, and then adding it onto the armor page if a source mentions it was sleek.
- Alright, I did that. ComicalNinja [Talk] 15:42, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- I spoke with UberSoldat93 and Imperators about the second sentence in the equipment section, both agreed that including the sentence was unnecessary, and that we don't document what someone didn't have at a particular time or the non-existence of things. Also spoke with Shay regarding the sleek part, just saying he wore phase 1 armor was sufficient, and then adding it onto the armor page if a source mentions it was sleek.
- I presume that whoever wrote "sleek" was referring to the armor's shininess/glossiness, which is a rather important thing to note. Also, I think the second sentence is necessary because you'd think he would have a blaster like other clones but he doesn't. Besides, if you remove the sentence, then the equipment section seems like it's missing things. ComicalNinja [Talk] 19:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think you can just mention the armor, unless sleek is used in a source? Also if he didn't use any weapons then the second sentence is unnecessary.
- Wrote an Equipment section. ComicalNinja [Talk] 18:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
As mentioned on discord, 'His nickname is an acronym originating from military jargon that stands for "Non-Useful Body."' needs to be amended to reflect what the older episode guide says, and then sourced to the guide.- Done. The episode guide said nothing about "military jargon" so I just removed that part. ComicalNinja [Talk] 15:53, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
General underlinking throughout the article, I'd recommend going through againLewisr (talk) 16:17, 13 May 2021 (UTC)- I just realized the Manual of Style says you can use links from the introduction again in the body paragraphs. I've just gone through and added links where they are needed. ComicalNinja [Talk] 18:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Still missing links such as listening post, shiny etc. The links should also be at the first mention so you should move the Confederacy link to the first instance of Separatist being mentioned.
- Is that better? ComicalNinja [Talk] 19:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Still missing links such as listening post, shiny etc. The links should also be at the first mention so you should move the Confederacy link to the first instance of Separatist being mentioned.
- I just realized the Manual of Style says you can use links from the introduction again in the body paragraphs. I've just gone through and added links where they are needed. ComicalNinja [Talk] 18:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Since there are clones who have no hair (Chopper) and a different eye color (Sketch) from what Jango has, we shouldn't be assuming that Nub has the same as him.Lewisr (talk) 18:47, 13 May 2021 (UTC)- It's not an assumption, when Nub has his helmet off for a brief instance we can see that he has black hair and brown eyes. ComicalNinja [Talk] 19:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, totally had a dumb moment and thought he was in full armor and helmet! The info should to be added to the infobox in that case Lewisr (talk) 20:01, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Added it. ComicalNinja [Talk] 15:42, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, totally had a dumb moment and thought he was in full armor and helmet! The info should to be added to the infobox in that case Lewisr (talk) 20:01, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- It's not an assumption, when Nub has his helmet off for a brief instance we can see that he has black hair and brown eyes. ComicalNinja [Talk] 19:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Per the manual of style 'Do not place grammatical articles (such as a, an, and the) in pipelinks' I can see at least two instances where you have done this, one in the intro and another in the first paragraph of biography.- Fixed them. ComicalNinja [Talk] 02:46, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
'The clone trooper known as "Nub" was enlisted in the Republic Military during the Clone Wars. Like all clone troopers of the Grand Army of the Republic, he had been grown on the Kaminoan cloning facilities using the DNA of bounty hunter Jango Fett. Nub's nickname was an acronym that stood for "Non-Useful Body."' Can all of this information be sourced to the episode guide? If not, then you should look at Mixer and see how the same sort of information was referenced on that page and implement it onto Nub's.- Sourced everything there to the corresponding source. ComicalNinja [Talk] 02:46, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
You should move the clone trooper databank and note reference to the homeworld field, as per Mixer like JMM linked above.Lewisr (talk) 16:48, 14 May 2021 (UTC)- Done. I had two references for that source, one with a note and one without, so I combined them into one with the note. ComicalNinja [Talk] 02:46, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Amazingly[]
The refrence note for the clones DB entry is explicitly about the height. Make another ref note for the homeworld and species, as "{{Databank|clone-troopers|Clone Troopers|archivedate=20200310191153}}."AmazinglyCool (talk) 16:39, 13 May 2021 (UTC)- Okay, done, did I do it correctly? ComicalNinja [Talk] 18:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Update: I decided to combine them into one reference since they’re the same source. The note is there. ComicalNinja [Talk] 02:46, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, done, did I do it correctly? ComicalNinja [Talk] 18:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Erebus[]
Upon a first read of the first paragraph in Biography, I'd say you could trim some of that down a bit, there's a little too much unnecessary context. Same can be done for the third paragraph.- Reworded/rewrote the first and third paragraphs. ComicalNinja [Talk]
- There's still some unnecessary context. What I'm referring to in the first paragraph is this line "In 22 BBY, Nub, along with CT-327 and the members of Domino Squad," this could be changed to "In 22 BBY, Nub, along with several other clone troopers, was assigned to the Rishi Station." You also do not need to mention that the Rishi Moon was located in the Rishi system, that has no bearing to Nub, so you could reword that to just say that it was a listening post on the Rishi Moon. Now in the last paragraph, the last two sentences have some somewhat irrelevant information. All that could be changed to say "Despite Nub's death, however, the remaining clone troopers were able to escape and destroy the station in order to alert the Republic of Grievous's attack." Erebus Chronus (Talk) 13:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
- I've condensed those parts. ComicalNinja [Talk] 13:03, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- There's still some unnecessary context. What I'm referring to in the first paragraph is this line "In 22 BBY, Nub, along with CT-327 and the members of Domino Squad," this could be changed to "In 22 BBY, Nub, along with several other clone troopers, was assigned to the Rishi Station." You also do not need to mention that the Rishi Moon was located in the Rishi system, that has no bearing to Nub, so you could reword that to just say that it was a listening post on the Rishi Moon. Now in the last paragraph, the last two sentences have some somewhat irrelevant information. All that could be changed to say "Despite Nub's death, however, the remaining clone troopers were able to escape and destroy the station in order to alert the Republic of Grievous's attack." Erebus Chronus (Talk) 13:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
- Reworded/rewrote the first and third paragraphs. ComicalNinja [Talk]
Your current wording in the second sentence of the third Bio paragraph seems to be suggesting that there are two separate squads of commando droids, please reword this.- Reworded it better. ComicalNinja [Talk]
Context for the Clone Wars.- Added some context. ComicalNinja [Talk]
Please reword your first Bio sentence. The current wording is suggesting that clone troopers, and Nub, chose to join the Republic instead of being created to serve the GAR.Erebus Chronus (Talk) 04:07, 15 May 2021 (UTC)- Reworded it. ComicalNinja [Talk] 11:36, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
- With some additional trimming, paragraphs 2, 3 and possibly 4 in Biography could all be merged together. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 04:11, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late response. What parts of those paragraphs do you think I should trim? I've already changed and rewrote that part of the article a lot. I don't feel like it needs to be condensed any further, or it won't be enough information. ComicalNinja [Talk] 12:42, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry for not responding sooner, but you could merge paragraphs three and four together in my opinion. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 12:53, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Merged. ComicalNinja [Talk] 16:50, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry for not responding sooner, but you could merge paragraphs three and four together in my opinion. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 12:53, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late response. What parts of those paragraphs do you think I should trim? I've already changed and rewrote that part of the article a lot. I don't feel like it needs to be condensed any further, or it won't be enough information. ComicalNinja [Talk] 12:42, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
UberSoldat[]
- Since the opening quote is attributed to Nub, I think you can specify that the voice actor in the BTS, saying he voiced all of the clones. UberSoldat93 (talk) 09:34, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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Vote to remove nomination (AC only)[]
- Unaddressed objections from JediMasterMacaroni almost 2 weeks old. Somehow I failed to notice this sooner. UberSoldat93 (talk) 11:59, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 12:51, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Imperators II(Talk) 13:20, 3 July 2021 (UTC)