- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
Taquito[]
- Nominated by:--Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:57, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: He was a half year on the stock. Short and without mistakes (I hope).
(3 ACs/4 Users/7 Total)[]
Support
- After some changes. JangFett (Talk) 21:57, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- With the assurance that CC's objections will be taken care of. --Xd 15:20, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Good job.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 20:48, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
- 4 user votes. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 22:02, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
- CC7567 (talk) 04:39, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Chack Jadson (Talk) 00:03, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Jonjedigrandmaster (We seed the stars) 00:09, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
Object
For now, I do think it's quite unnecessary to add that bit of trivia in the BtS. Very redundant. JangFett (Talk) 19:30, February 24, 2010 (UTC)- Well, but Rule 13 says, that a P&T section should be there if available. Clone Commander Lee Talk 11:52, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
- He's not talking about the P&T; he's talking about the reference to the Mexican dish. And Jang is correct - that shouldn't be in there unless an official source states that this guy was specifically named after the dish. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 12:22, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, that wasn't from me. I removed it and you're completely right. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:04, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
- He's not talking about the P&T; he's talking about the reference to the Mexican dish. And Jang is correct - that shouldn't be in there unless an official source states that this guy was specifically named after the dish. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 12:22, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, but Rule 13 says, that a P&T section should be there if available. Clone Commander Lee Talk 11:52, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Soresu
Normally this would be under sofixit, but since English isn't your best language, I'll try to point out some stuff. The Separatists' also left Remember, apostrophes are only used to show ownership or to contract words. If you are just using the plural form, they aren't needed.- Okay, corrected. (Actually it's my second best language.)
The inhabitants believed the grid to be a god they called "Drol". Probably best if you specify whether this includes Taquito. This is both the intro and bio.- Added.
Many starfighter pilots tried to get through the grid, but they were all unsuccessful and their ships were destroyed. Taquito also tried, but like those before him, his ship was destroyed by the grid. Could you use some synonyms? These two sentences are very similar.- Used synonyms.
Although Taquito was brave enough trying to get past the laser grid, his piloting abilities didn't match his bravery and resulted in his death. Could you reword a little? Also, you could mention his belief in Drol.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 23:23, March 4, 2010 (UTC)- Reworded and added. Thanks for the review, Soresu. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 10:19, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Arg. That sentence still doesn't flow well. I can't think of a great way to do it either. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 20:57, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Better? --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:01, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
- That sentence is fixed, but why has the sentence on Drol been removed? SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 23:17, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
- We do not know that he believed in Drol. It is nowhere stated. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:31, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah; I had assummed that when you addressed my second objection, that Taquito was a believer. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 22:02, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
- We do not know that he believed in Drol. It is nowhere stated. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:31, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- That sentence is fixed, but why has the sentence on Drol been removed? SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 23:17, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
- Better? --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:01, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Arg. That sentence still doesn't flow well. I can't think of a great way to do it either. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 20:57, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Reworded and added. Thanks for the review, Soresu. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 10:19, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Xd
Intro: "Taquito was a male Rodian pilot and a friend of Jaybo Hood. During the Clone Wars, he lived on the Outer Rim planet of Iego, which was invaded by the Confederacy of Independent Systems. When the Separatists left, they installed a laser grid system over Iego which destroyed all ships that tried to leave the planet." Again, why is Jaybo first? Could you reword these sentences to something like "Taquito was a male Rodian pilot who lived during the Clone Wars. He lived on the Outer Rim planet of Iego, where he befriended Jaybo Hood. Iego was invaded by the Confederacy of Independent Systems and when they left, a laser grid system was installed which destroyed all ships that tried to leave the planet."- Reworded.
- Now it reads a bit strange. Is it possible to mention Hood in the following sentence. It just doesn't fit into that.
- Better.
- Now it reads a bit strange. Is it possible to mention Hood in the following sentence. It just doesn't fit into that.
- Reworded.
Intro: Any reason why Drol is in italics?- You're right it's no ship. Removed.
Bio: Could you move the fact that he was a friend of Jaybo after the fact that he lived on Iego?- Changed.
The P&T is quite messy. First you mention that he died and then that he believed in Drol. Switch these two.- Switched.
Airdate for MoaTM?- Added.
In the intro, you don't capitalize laser. In the P&T, you do. Decide which one is correct.- Eh, I don't see what you mean.
- There was a capitalized Laser in the P&T :P
- Eh, I don't see what you mean.
- --Xd 18:53, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review, Xd. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:18, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. Xd 19:53, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review, Xd. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:18, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
Lee, please double check your reference in the BtS. You should know what's wrong with it. Also, you're missing sources. Did you check every available TCW source? JangFett (Talk) 19:23, March 5, 2010 (UTC)- Corected. Yep, all checked. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:27, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Reference is correct, though are you sure that you're not missing anything? I don't want to add this for you, Lee, because you should know what's missing. JangFett (Talk) 19:36, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry Jang I don't know what you mean.
- You're missing a sources section, and anything that mentions Taquito should be included. In this case, the episode guide should be listed. JangFett (Talk) 19:42, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't see the forest due to the trees. Added and thanks. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:49, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- You're missing a sources section, and anything that mentions Taquito should be included. In this case, the episode guide should be listed. JangFett (Talk) 19:42, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry Jang I don't know what you mean.
- Reference is correct, though are you sure that you're not missing anything? I don't want to add this for you, Lee, because you should know what's missing. JangFett (Talk) 19:36, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Corected. Yep, all checked. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:27, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- The clone
Conflicting dates in the article. "c. 22 BBY" is not equivalent to "by 21 BBY," the latter of which the bio implies.- I don't know who added by 21 BBY, but I don't really get what you mean.
- If I may butt in: The bio says "During the second year of the Clone Wars...". TCW is supposed to take place around 22 BBY. That's what CC is objecting to, if I understand it correctly. --Xd 18:04, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, but the 21 BBY is sourced, while whe don't know if Taquito died in 22 BBY (infobox) or in 21 BBY (bio). --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:29, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
- The article still implies two very different things. You need to be consistent and incorporate all the known facts from canon. CC7567 (talk) 21:49, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
- I used the info of the source book.
- Additionally, however, if we know that the Separatists installed the laser grid during the Clone Wars, we have a start marker for the period in which his death is known to take. CC7567 (talk) 00:59, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Correct ?
- Removing the end marker doesn't solve it. It needs to read "Between 22–21 BBY" with the appropriate sources. CC7567 (talk) 20:12, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Sourced with Episode 2 and the source book. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:02, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Removing the end marker doesn't solve it. It needs to read "Between 22–21 BBY" with the appropriate sources. CC7567 (talk) 20:12, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Correct ?
- Additionally, however, if we know that the Separatists installed the laser grid during the Clone Wars, we have a start marker for the period in which his death is known to take. CC7567 (talk) 00:59, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- I used the info of the source book.
- The article still implies two very different things. You need to be consistent and incorporate all the known facts from canon. CC7567 (talk) 21:49, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, but the 21 BBY is sourced, while whe don't know if Taquito died in 22 BBY (infobox) or in 21 BBY (bio). --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:29, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
- If I may butt in: The bio says "During the second year of the Clone Wars...". TCW is supposed to take place around 22 BBY. That's what CC is objecting to, if I understand it correctly. --Xd 18:04, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know who added by 21 BBY, but I don't really get what you mean.
Still prominent and rampant grammar errors throughout the article, falling under Rule 1.Missing info from Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Visual Guide Ultimate Battles, which falls under Rule 3. The info should have already been there before the article was nominated.- Bah, I didn't know that there was info in there. I'll look fore someone who has it.
- Asked JangFett and Jawaman. If I recieve no answer till Monday I'll buy the book. Added it tothe source list. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:10, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Bah, I didn't know that there was info in there. I'll look fore someone who has it.
Lack of a proper {{Pronounced}} template.Assumptions being made that are not stated or implied in any sources. You should only be reporting pure facts and not adding connections that have not been drawn by canon.- Removed.
- Where does it say that he lived on Iego? Definitely not in the episode. CC7567 (talk) 00:59, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Changed and removed the speculation. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:02, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Where does it say that he lived on Iego? Definitely not in the episode. CC7567 (talk) 00:59, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Removed.
- Lee, everything else I intend to say is what I've said too many times now, and you'll notice that the majority of these objections are similar to ones that I and others have made for close to all of your previous nominations. Please improve the article if you intend to see it through. CC7567 (talk) 04:35, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- CC I can assure you that I do my best to promote the articles I nominate. I will work on your objections. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:01, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
Shorten the details in the last paragraph of the Bio. They aren't all directly relevant to him.CC7567 (talk) 00:59, March 9, 2010 (UTC)- Shortened. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:42, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- If you want it still shorter please say so. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:02, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Shortened. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:42, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Who I am is not important…
- Since this is the first time I'm reviewing one of your articles, I want to say that I am usually familiar with the subject material of the articles I review. This review will be presented to you as if I had no inkling of the EU, so…
Timeline needs to be established in intro and bio.- Added.
"Taquito was a male Rodian who lived on the Outer Rim planet of Iego and a good friend of the Human youth Jaybo Hood." Can you split this sentence into two different ones?- Splitted.
"At some point during Clone Wars…" Can you put a "the" in between "during" and "Clone Wars"?- Done. --Xd 13:48, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
"The Separatists left a LaserWeb Defense Station surrounding the planet…" Could you reword "left" to something like "installed" around the planet?- Replaced. --Xd 13:48, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
"After they found the roots, they tried to leave but were forced to return to Iego due to the laser field." Could you remove one of the "they"'s and specify who is "they"?- Replaced with "After the Jedi found the roots, they tried...". --Xd 13:48, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
"He managed to send a last-minute distress call," To where?- Not stated.
"A citizen named Amit Noloff showed the Jedi a hologram of Taquitos' death to prove that Drol was not a myth." A couple of things here. First, normally I'd correct this for you, but "Taquitos'" should be "Taquito's". Second, is Noloff trying to prove that Drol existed really pertinent to Taquito's article?- Yes, I think show. It's directly relevant to him.
- Good enough for me.
- Yes, I think show. It's directly relevant to him.
"and so enable…" I think this could be changed to just say "enabling".- Replaced it with "..the Jedi were able to destroy the laser grid, allowing the inhabitants.." let Lee/me know if you think there's a problem with it. --Xd 13:48, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
The species and gender of the characters are usually referred to in the P&T.- Added.
"Taquito was brave enough trying to get past the laser grid, but his piloting abilities didn't match his bravery and like many others he was killed by the laser grid." A few things, I feel this sentence should be split in two different ones. You need to specify where the laser grid was, around Iego's orbit. Rather than saying "Taquito was brave enough", you might want to say "Taquito showed bravery in attempting to get past the laser grid", or something like that.- Changed.
You should mention something about his friendship with Jaybo Hood.- Added.
- There is nothing about it, at least not in the episode. All Jaybo says about him is the lead quote. --Xd 13:48, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
- True, but since he was a friend of his, I feel it can be acknowledged in the P&T, like, he befriended him during his time on planet or something.
- That all for now. Take care of these and I'll take a look at it.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 13:31, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your review. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:34, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
- Attack II
I honestly do not believe that that holographic image is detailed enough to denote eye color. Kindly clarify.- Removed.
Why is "Drol" relevant to the intro?- Unnecessary and removed.
- As a note, the intro cannot be a simple, shortened copy-pasted version of the bio. Please vary your word choice and phrasing next time.
Please make use of the known dates in the Bio.- Better?
- I don't see any change. CC7567 (talk) 22:01, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- Added the timelime of the Clone Wars. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:09, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see any change. CC7567 (talk) 22:01, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- Better?
- Next time, please make sure that the article follows all of the GAN requirements before nominating it. CC7567 (talk) 00:05, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your review. I will mind your objections before my next nomination. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:22, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- And I asked Jonathan about The Complete Encyclopedia. He has no entry.
- Thanks for your review. I will mind your objections before my next nomination. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:22, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
Just one: can we say for certain he was "brave?" Maybe he was just foolish. The point is, unless the source says he's brave, then this is POV/OR.Jonjedigrandmaster (We seed the stars) 15:20, March 13, 2010 (UTC)- I removed that, because I agree with you.
- I don't know who wrote it above, but he is right. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:45, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, but now I don't see why the attempt receives mention in the P&T at all. Currently the only thing in that section pertaining to his personality is the first half of the first sentence. Also; in the intro you've changed it to say he came to Iego—how do you know he wasn't on Iego all along? Please remove this. Jonjedigrandmaster (We seed the stars) 19:17, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Like CC said, we have no source that he lived on Iego so we stated that he came to Iego. The othter thing is merged. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:52, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
- That was me. Sorry I didn't sign. :P Chack Jadson (Talk) 00:03, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
- No problem Chack :P And Lee, there is also no source saying he came originally from somewhere else—the point is, we can't really say either. Jonjedigrandmaster (We seed the stars) 00:09, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
- That was me. Sorry I didn't sign. :P Chack Jadson (Talk) 00:03, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Like CC said, we have no source that he lived on Iego so we stated that he came to Iego. The othter thing is merged. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:52, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, but now I don't see why the attempt receives mention in the P&T at all. Currently the only thing in that section pertaining to his personality is the first half of the first sentence. Also; in the intro you've changed it to say he came to Iego—how do you know he wasn't on Iego all along? Please remove this. Jonjedigrandmaster (We seed the stars) 19:17, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know who wrote it above, but he is right. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:45, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
- I removed that, because I agree with you.
One thing: First two sentences of the intro do not mesh. I tried removing the second because it doesn't seem relevant to the rest of the intro but then we lack context on Iego.Chack Jadson (Talk) 00:44, March 14, 2010 (UTC)- Merged the two sentences and removed that abou Hood. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:45, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 00:09, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
- In the episode guide it is not stated who voiced him, so there can't be that info in the BtS.--Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:05, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Hope you don't mind I took care of a few objections, Lee. --Xd 13:48, March 8, 2010 (UTC)