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Some category naming questions

I've been wanting to rename or move a few categories now for a while, but I think I should get a consensus here first.

  1. There should be a better category than Category: Domesticated animals for articles like Yoda's kybuck and Boga, who should also be counted as characters. Problem is, I can't think of a good name. Any advice?
  2. Category: Behind the Magic is a nice-sounding name, but unfortunately it's counterintuitive. Any ideas for renaming?
  3. Category: Races and species has a lot of subcategories like Category: Twi'leks. However, those categories are almost entirely character articles, so it seems a bit odd to me putting them there. Shouldn't they just be part of Category: Characters?

There's been some discussion on category talk pages, but they've gone inactive, so I'm asking here. — Silly Dan 02:47, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

  • I suggest we get rid of "Behind the Magic" whatsoever. The current hierarchy is:
  • Real World
    • Behind the Magic
      • Filming locations
      • Interviews
      • Toy companies

Most of the articles in the "Behind the Magic" category are about companies, so the new hierarchy should be something like:

  • Real World
    • Filming locations
    • Interviews
    • Companies
      • Toy companies

Articles that aren't about companies will go into "Real World", which should in turn be renamed to "Real world" to comply with the naming conventions. - Sikon [Talk] 08:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Old Republic characters category

Is there a reason why people keep deleting this category from people who lived in the Old Republic? Kuralyov 05:28, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

  • The category is in the process of being removed, I think. QuentinGeorge 05:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Because the category is not meant for people who lived on a planet that was a member of the Galactic Republic or lived while the Republic existed. It should be used to identify those directly connected to it. --SparqMan 06:30, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
    • What exactly constitutes a "direct connection?" Kuralyov 16:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
      • Working for it is the easiest way to judge. --SparqMan 18:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

New user profiles

Is there a template to use when making a user profile? Unsigned comment by Doo Doo (talk • contribs).

  • No, the user is entitled to make their user page with their own choice of style. However, there cannot be too many images on the page wasting space or sucking bandwidth. Otherwise you'll get an admin knocking on your talk page. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
    • What are the boxes in some users profiles that are like:
 en  This user is a native speaker of English,
 fox  This user contributes using Mozilla Firefox.

And especially, what is the "sw-3 This user has an advanced understanding of the Star Wars Galaxy.'? What does the number mean? How do I attain such a ranking? Doo Doo 21:06, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Check Wookieepedia:Template messages/User namespace/. There is no authority handing out rankings like sw-3, though. It's completely self-applied. — Silly Dan 21:22, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
    • I have a gallery on my user page of images I like (at the bottom). Does that constitute "too many images" or are you referring more to vanity images that are used only for user profiles?--DannyBoy7783 21:41, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

We're hoping to make the process of adding these sorts of boxes much easier. If you have any suggestions for user-profile related features this wiki needs, please let me know or place a bug request in our bug tracker. Wikia will be hiring a userbox developer to work on this next month. Angela (talk) 12:40, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Wookieepedia:Meetings

I'm just reading the transcripts from the first two Wookieepedia meetings and I would have liked to have been there to clear up some things. For example, Wikicities will never have pop-up ads! Seriously. Why would anyone stay if we did that? We're hosting free-content on open-source software, making it very easy for people to leave if we piss them off. It would be stupid for any company to risk that. :)

Also, on the question of buying ads - Wikia will pay for that. So far, all we've done was a short ad on Kuro5hin during "adopt a wiki" week, but we will have a budget for exactly this sort of thing later this month. We want to sort out our stats before we buy too many though since we want to track what sort of effect different ads have, which we can't do very well at the moment.

Have you considered using IRC for the meetings? The advantage is that a lot of other wiki channels are there and it doesn't require any special software. You can access it via the web at irc.wikicities.com if you don't have an IRC client, and you can keep the channel open between meetings for people to chat or ask questions. I can set up a gateway specifically for this wiki if you think it would be useful. See the Memory Alpha or Uncyclopedia ones for example. Until then, just choose "wookieepedia" from the drop down channel list on irc.wikicities.com.

I'd like to suggest a topic for the next meeting - are there any software changes that Wookieepedia needs? I don't mean standard bug fixes that everyone wants, but cool stuff for this wiki that you couldn't get outside Wikicities.

Angela (talk) 11:59, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm not sure where else to put this, but I'd really like to be in on the redesign discussed at the last meeting. My brain will be mush for the next week or so (Can we say madatory overtime? I think we can!) but I'm all for it. I think we could outdo Memory Alpha designwise, but that may be the lack of sleep talking. And to make this on-topic, I am always pro-IRC. Dark Spork 04:09, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree Angela. I hate popups. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Gallery coding

is there a way to center a gallery? --Razzy1319 04:30, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

You can put <center> tags around it. For example:
Angela (talk) 22:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
The <center> tag is deprecated by W3C. <div align="center"> should be used instead. - Sikon [Talk] 12:51, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --Razzy1319 07:07, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Another question... is it possible to change the thumbnail size or is that only user preferential? and is it possible to link to a particular part of an article like say the part of Palpatine's article dealing with the Behind the scene? --Razzy1319 06:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Just add "###px" in the description, like this: [[File:Example.jpg|An Example|200px|right]] per your other question, I believe you just make the link [[Nameofarticle#Nameofsection|Linkname]] CooperTFN 06:59, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Infoboxes

I think we need greater uniformity when it comes to infoboxes. Some categories, like most of the vehicles and starships, use the pl and plh/f templates ("low-level" templates) for greater flexibility. Others, like most of the planets, use rigid "high-level" templates. Other categories simply have a mix of both. When should each type be used? Should we establish more guidelines regarding infobox type as per category? Thanks. RMF 01:38, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

  • It seems that may be a limitation of the current software. As per our discussion earlier, the "high-level" infoboxes do (at least in the case of planets and ships) provide a more uniform and eye-pleasing experience. However the pl and plh/f templates are a bit crude in appearance, though they do offer the distinct advantage of being able to tailor their information to only those fields available. A third option would be to manually input much of the code/script (whatever you wish to call it) found in the larger templates. I did this on the Delta-7 page largely on accident, though I plan on leaving it up—at least temporarily—to see how it works out. The catch is that it takes a lot more time and it hogs more space in that page's edit window. As RMF here was telling me, all that code could disuade people from making edits. I guess what I'm trying to say is...we're at a sort of impass. All three options have pros and cons that make them most suitable to certain situations, but it would seem no one can be easily chosen as the best. Perhaps we will have to see what the Wookieepedian community has to say about it, a vote perhaps. 30px Shadowtrooper talk 22:21, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
    • That Delta-7 infobox is incredibly pretty. The problem as I see it is the varying amount of information available for each ship. For some, we may have every detail one could want, from the exact armament down to the model name of the engines. For others, we may only have a name, a length, a vague idea of the armament, or even less. I've been using a relatively uniform set of the flexible boxes, for which I have a template (not a Template: template, just an outline) here. —Darth Culator (talk) 22:33, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Shadowtrooper: yes, I agree. Each method seems to have its advantages and disadvantages -- but from an aesthetics/functionality point of view I'm inclined to go with manual high-level 'boxes, my earlier comments notwithstanding. The way I see it, standard high-level infoboxes are way too rigid for the majority of categories; while pl/plfs just don't look good (and already cover the site). I think we should list this as a topic for the next meeting so we can establish some basic guidelines. Darth Culator: that is only a problem for standard high-level infoboxes (and you're absolutely right). If you look at the code for the Delta-7, shadowtrooper copied an entire high-level template but removed fields invalid for that particular craft. That's what I mean when I refer to manually-generated high-level 'boxes. RMF 00:45, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, for the time being, I think I'll just use the full template, and only on articles with a minimal amount of unknowns (ie: X-wing). Nonetheless, it's definitely a topic to bring up with the "higher-ups". 30px Shadowtrooper talk 19:09, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Shadowtrooper and I have been discussing this on his talk page as well. I came up with a new idea, though I don't really want to outline it again. Just follow the link. RMF 01:38, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I really like the Delta-7 formatting. I went ahead and created {{pl1}} as a way to format fancy infoboxes with interchanging colors. Should we convert our high-level infoboxes to interchanging colors? - Sikon [Talk] 02:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
      • You could, but our new templates here already have that. We would probably be better off finalizing the new ones and then switching over from there. RMF 03:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Now that we have developed new infoboxes for planets, vehicles and vessels, we should move on the moons, space stations and cities if possible. MyNz 08:17, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


I just started a unified discussion here. —Darth Culator (talk) 13:55, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Auto-hiding infobox rows

I edited Template:Planet so that blank rows will be auto-hidden.

With the "Source" section, the changes to the template should be self-documenting. See Mycroft for an example. For other planets, you can start replacing "Unknown" with "". However, all parameters must be specified for the infobox, even the blank ones. Otherwise the template will go fubar.

I also encourage you to discuss Shiaic's extended infobox proposal at Wookieepedia:Consensus track/New planet infobox template. With the new system, blank entries will be auto-hidden, so for most planets the infoboxes will shrink to the current, shorter format. - Sikon [Talk] 12:59, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

  • That looks nice. I only understand about three percent of how you actually put it together, but it looks easy enough to use. Can you do one for starships too? —Darth Culator (talk) 13:30, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
    • If you reply, please do so here. —Darth Culator (talk) 13:55, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I edited the current Template:Ship to enable autohiding. - Sikon [Talk] 14:24, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Could you do that same with weapon infobox??? SkywalkerPL 15:06, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I updated the weapon infobox to auto-hide. Did we ever decide what size images in the infoboxes should be? 250px? 300px? --Xwing328 21:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
      • No, perhaps that one deserves its own consensus track page. - Sikon [Talk] 09:13, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Real world categories refactoring

Category:Real World, Category:Cut Stories and Category:Behind the Magic have been moved to Category:Real world, Category:Cut stories and Category:Real world companies, respectively. Please delete the old (empty) categories, as well as redirects: Category talk:Real World and Category talk:Behind the Magic.

If there are other categories not conforming to the naming conventions, let me know. - Sikon [Talk] 09:40, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

A problem...

Some of my edits are not showing up on my "My Contributions" page. I did the part about Coruscant's defenses, but that doesn't show. I was logged in and everything. Is this a technical problem, or... Mindgiver 5:32 PM, 12 February 2006

  • You apparently weren't logged in. Make sure your browser is accepting cookies: that's the only thing I can think of. — Silly Dan 22:41, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Bureaucrats

Seeing as WhiteBoy sadly isn't as active as he used to be, perhaps we should appoint one or two new bureaucrats? Job duties include giving admin privilegies and changing user names. WhiteBoy is capable of doing the work all by himself, but I don't think a few helping hands would hurt. --Imp 18:06, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm still quite active here. Regardless, I have been thinking about doing this, too. I've just make Riff a bureaucrat, too. WhiteBoy 18:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes, I know you're quite active, I'm just saying you used to be even more so. :) Good call on the Riff promotion. --Imp 19:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
      • Huh, what? Holy hell I'm a bureaucrat! Thanks Chad! -- Riffsyphon1024 22:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
      • Yeah well, ya never known when I might get squished by a meteor rock or something.  :p WhiteBoy 19:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Not tooting my own kloo horn or anything, but I am online almost every day and I know a fair bit about moderating and Wiki. I'd like to be a bureaucrats, if you need any more. Also, I'm in Australia, so when the bureaucrats on your hemisphere are asleep, I could be on duty. Let me know. -- Doo Doo 08:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
    • You need to be online for at least six months just to be an admin -- see Wookieepedia:Requests for adminship. Plus, we have two Australian admins already (not that this means we couldn't get new admins from that fine nation at some point.)— Silly Dan 12:47, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Help

  • I am new and I read the layout guide and I don't know how to merge, wookify, delete etc... Please help me.

Darth Vader 17:45, 03 March 2006

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