Re: this page's creation Edit
This has sort of been an unspoken policy here for a while; I just tried to adapt Wikipedia's page to lay a framework for further development. Thoughts? RMF 05:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Related IRC discussion Edit
<LucidFox> if the NEC says "Luke was a total douche", you can say in a Wookieepedia that "the NEC says Luke was a total douche" <LordHydronium> Found it; it's a few months after Yavin <LucidFox> but not that "Luke was a total douche <ref>The New Essential Chronology</ref>" <LucidFox> if you get me <LordHydronium> I do, but how does that work for omniscient narrators? <LordHydronium> Since there's no one really "saying" that <LucidFox> BTS. <LucidFox> say in the BTS section that so-and-so is said in Book X in the narration <LordHydronium> So in the Personality section, could you just say "some said he was a douche" and give a source? <LordHydronium> or "it was said that..." <LordHydronium> or is that considered weasel words? <LucidFox> the problem is that this "some" is not IU <LucidFox> example: Aayla Secura <LucidFox> saying "Aayla Secura is beautiful" would be POV <LucidFox> saying "some said Aayla Secura was beautiful" would be weasel words <LordHydronium> So you're saying that if the ROTS novel says "the beautiful Aayla Secura", the only person actually saying that is Matt Stover, who's not IU <LucidFox> saying "Movac Arisster considered Aayla Secura beautiful based on remaining holographic depictions of her (source: Betrayal)" would be NPOV <LordHydronium> ok <LucidFox> LordHydronium> yes <Jaymach> the NEC is different though <LucidFox> however <Jaymach> seeing as it's written by Voren Na'al <LucidFox> the IU author for the EC and NEC is known <LordHydronium> The Characters guides have IU authors too, I believe, that aren't named <LucidFox> so you can say "Voren Na'al considered Luke a douche, and went as far as pushing that bias into The New Essential Chronology" <LordHydronium> That's what I've been lead to believe from Domus Publica, at least <Jaymach> Hoole is the author for the EGtAS <Jaymach> I can't remember who did the Characters ones <LordHydronium> According to Domus Publica, unnamed NR scholars <LucidFox> so <LucidFox> "an unnamed NR scholar who wrote Book X called Luke a douche in that book" <LordHydronium> gotcha
Clarification of the policyEdit
Ok, here is my suggestion. Feel free to criticise and suggest improvements:
In line with Wookieepedia being a knowledge repository written in an In-Universe style, yet supposed to include all things Canon, editors should note a few important details about opinions. In-Universe characters have opinions, and in spite of these opinions technically being biased, and therefore in violation of the NPOV policy, they are nevertheless Canon. From our standpoint they are historical facts ie. they 'happened' in the Galaxy Far Far Away, and thus have a place in Wookieepedia articles. Information of this nature must be verifiable, and written in such a way that the reader clearly understand that these opinions are the opinions of the character, and is otherwise in compliance with this policy. However, not all opinions stated in Canon qualify for Wookieepedia articles. Narrator opinions such as those found in RPG rulebooks, reference works, comic book textboxes, and movie opening crawls, are in violation of the Neutral Point of View, and furthermore, are told from an Out-of-Universe perspective. For all Wookieepedia knows, narrator opinions are as Canon as the opinions of In-Universe characters, and are recognized as such by the community, but yet has no place in Wookieepedia articles, because these are written in an In-Universe, Neutral Point of View.
DarthMRN 17:15, 21 July 2007 (UTC)