Contents 1 Writers and Editors 2 Boba Fett's Theme 3 Layouts 4 Execute Order 65 5 Definition of a theme 6 Jobs and Assignments 7 Star Wars Vault 8 Articles on LSO members 9 Project name

Writers and EditorsEdit

1. Master Fredcerique

• Hello everyone! Welcome to WookieeProject Real World Music! If you would like to join, please enter your name into the "Writers and editors" section in the article and the "Participants" section in the infobox. Thank You! --Master Fredcerique 12:47, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

1. Qui-Gon Reborn Enter the realm of the fifth dimension... 17:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Boba Fett's Theme Edit

Do we have any official sources saying the theme heard in Cloud City in TESB is Boba Fett's theme? It's not in any of the other films in which he appears, and I think it plays a few times when he's not there. -Milo Fett^[Comlink] 14:43, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

• I don't know. Ozzel stated that it was a minor theme in his massive detailed "how to" guide to music articles. You might ask him. Master Fredcerique 12:43, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

LayoutsEdit

Hey! We need to have article layout guides to help with the creation and editing of every type of real world music article. Any ideas? --Master Fredcerique 12:44, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

• Here's what I think (at least for articles on themes): first should be the introduction (as with all articles), then should come a section on symbolism (this section would describe how exactly the theme represents whatever it's supposed to represent, it may be hard to source, though), and next should come a section on appearances in soundtracks (a list of all the tracks and the time in the track when the theme is heard, see Star Wars Main Title for example). Master Fredcerique 12:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
  • That sounds good. That's what I'm doing on Rebel Fanfare (music theme). -Milo Fett^[Comlink] 13:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Execute Order 65 Edit

Per the results of Forum:CT Archive/Articles for individual songs on soundtracks the following articles about songs should be deleted, but not before whatever useful content exists is merged into the articles on respective soundtracks, as with Shadows of the Empire soundtrack:

• Star Wars Main Title and The Arrival at Naboo
• Jar Jar's Introduction and The Swim to Otoh Gunga
• The Sith Spacecraft and The Droid Battle
• The Trip to the Naboo Temple and The Audience with Boss Nass
• The Arrival at Tatooine and The Flag Parade
• He Is the Chosen One
• Anakin Defeats Sebulba
• Passage Through the Planet Core
• Panaka and the Queen's Protectors
• The Droid Invasion and The Appearance of Darth Maul
• Qui-Gon's Noble End
• The High Council Meeting and Qui-Gon's Funeral
• Augie's Great Municipal Band and End Credits
• Star Wars Main Title And Ambush On Coruscant
• Zam The Assassin And The Chase Through Coruscant
• Yoda And The Younglings
• Departing Coruscant
• Anakin And Padmé
• Jango's Escape
• The Meadow Picnic
• Bounty Hunter's Pursuit
• Return To Tatooine
• The Tusken Camp And The Homestead
• Love Pledge And The Arena
• Confrontation With Count Dooku And Finale
• On The Conveyor Belt
• Star Wars And The Revenge Of The Sith
• Anakin's Dream
• Anakin's Betrayal
• General Grievous (song)
• Palpatine's Teachings
• Grievous And The Droids
• Padmé's Ruminations
• Anakin's Dark Deeds
• Enter Lord Vader
• The Immolation Scene
• Grievous Speaks To Lord Sidious
• The Birth Of The Twins And Padmé's Destiny
• A New Hope And End Credits
• Ben Kenobi's Death/Tie Fighter Attack
• The Throne Room/End Title
• The Battle of Hoth (song)
• The Asteroid Field
• Yoda and the Force
• The Droids Are Captured
• Sail Barge Assault
• The Lightsaber/Ewok Battle
• Victory Celebration/End Title
• Star Wars Main Title & A Galaxy Divided
• Admiral Yularen (track)
• Battle Of Christophsis (track)
• Meet Ahsoka
• Obi-Wan To The Rescue
• Sneaking Under The Shield
• Jabba's Palace (track)
• Anakin vs. Dooku
• Landing On Teth
• Destroying The Shield
• B'omarr Monastery (track)
• General Loathsom / Battle Strategy
• The Shield
• Battle Of Teth
• Jedi Don't Run!
• Obi-Wan's Negotiation
• The Jedi Council (track)
• General Loathsom / Ahsoka
• Jabba's Chamber Dance
• Ziro Surrounded
• Scaling The Cliff
• Ziro's Nightclub Band
• Seedy City Swing
• Escape From The Monastery
• Infiltrating Ziro's Lair
• Courtyard Fight
• Dunes Of Tatooine
• Rough Landing
• Padmé Imprisoned
• Dooku Speaks With Jabba
• Fight To The End
• End Credits (The Clone Wars)

I suggest to the project leader and the creator of the articles to start looking for a way to incorporate those articles into the articles on the soundtrack, which I'm willing and ready to help him with. Mauser^Comlink 05:14, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

• Hey! I, Master Fredcerique, am the creator of almost all of these articles. I will try whenever I can to merge the info. Thanks! Master Fredcerique 12:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

• Taken care of. Mauser^Comlink 11:04, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
• Dude, that was fast! Thanks! Master Fredcerique 16:36, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Definition of a themeEdit

We need to define what is a reccuring musical theme in the scores, since we're going to delere everything that isn't one. I suggest to use the following definition: A theme is the reccuring motif in the Star Wars scores, which is used in more than one film and is associated either with a major Character (Anakin's Theme) or with a significant concept in the Saga (Force Theme). If we apply this definition to the existing articles, then the following will have to go:

• The Battle Of Yavin (music theme)
• Hyperspace (music theme)
• Jawa's theme
• Rebel Fanfare (music theme)
• Tie Fighter Attack (music theme)

All of above are not themes, but rather a name of the track, somehow inedtified with a theme (with the exception of Jawa's theme). They aren't actually notable enough and have to go. Opinions? Mauser^Comlink 05:14, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

• The Rebel Fanfare is used not only in the end credits of every movie, but also in Return of the Jedi at the Sarlacc Pit (and possibly in RotS' full soundtrack, though I'm not sure). That can probably count as a theme, since the Rebels are a significant concept. Tie Fighter Attack can stay or go, since they only ever use it again in RotJ and TIE fighters attacking isn't necessarily a major theme in the movies; but rather a plot device. -Milo Fett^[Comlink] 13:48, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I watched OT more than 10 times and listened to the soundtracks more than I can remember, but don't remember either Rebel Fanfare or Tie Fighter Attack theme anywhere in ROTJ. Maybe it's just me though. Even if those two stay, do you agree than the rest should go? Mauser^Comlink 14:07, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
    • In RotJ, check The Pit of Carkoon/Sail Barge Assault (from 1:31) and The Battle of Endor III (from the beginning). I agree that all of them except Rebel Fanfare should go, since Tie Fighter Attack is just an arrangement of Rebel Fanfare anyway. -Milo Fett^[Comlink] 14:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
      • I listened to those two again and they sound very different borh from each other and "The Throne Room" version of a Rebel Fanfare. I'm redirecting this one for now. Mauser^Comlink 10:54, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
        • Maybe we're thinking of something different for the Rebel Fanfare. I'm thinking of the "da-daaaah, da, da-daaaah, da, da-daaaaaaaaaaaaaah, daah dah dah daah" representing the Rebel Alliance as heard in the sources I mentioned, heard most prominently in "The Death Star/The Stormtroopers" on the ANH soundtrack at 0:57. I'm not positive it is, but the original article said the theme was used "extensively in Episode IV, and less frequently in the other episodes." The entry on the Musical Score page seems to support this with the audio clip of the Rebel Fanfare. "The Throne Room" is a different Rebel fanfare of sorts, but it's not the Rebel Fanfare. -Milo Fett^[Comlink] 15:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
          • Wow, I haven't realized we were referring to different subjects here. Feel free to recreate the page from the redirect, but be sure to expand it to avoid further confusion: some examples of the usage would be appreciated. Mauser^Comlink 15:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
            • Ok. It's one of those cues that they never give the official name for on the soundtrack. I never even knew it had a name for a long time! -Milo Fett^[Comlink] 15:49, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
              • Be aware, that the name "Rebel Fanfare" is unsourced and can still be conjectural. Mauser^Comlink 15:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
                • Hey! I just found that the theme is called the Rebel Fanfare. It says in the booklet in the Empire Strikes Back Special Edition soundtrack. Thanks!--Master Fredcerique 14:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Jobs and AssignmentsEdit

Hey! I say each individual should take on certain jobs and assignments that pertain to a certain main topic, like on many other WookieeProjects. Comments? Master Fredcerique 16:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Star Wars Vault Edit

Although I have no intention yet of writing for this fine WookieeProject, you may wish to know that pages 36-9 of The Star Wars Vault have a lot of information on the LSO in general. A vague summary is as such:

• Brief descriptions of several concerts that John Williams conducted.
• An insert (reproduction) of the program for "The LSO in space" on 16/Feb/78 which includes:
  • Short biographies of John Williams, David Atherton & the LSO.
  • A list of the members at the time.
  • An article by John Williams on writing music for Star Wars (ANH).
  • A description of the concert's music.
• A copy of a ticket for that concert (1978)
• A brief overview of the release of the Star Wars soundtrack.
  • A sentence here states Williams inspiration for using leitmotifs.
• An image of the cover for a vinyl containing "Main Title" and Cantina Band" (1978)
• A caption of an image (1977) that reads (and the image shows): "John Williams may be the only composer-conductor today to still record movie soundtracks while watching the film projected on a large screen; others use TV monitors."
• An insert (reproduction) of a sheet of music for the End Credits of AotC which I think (having no knowledge of sheet music) is only 4 bars long.

I'm happy to check verbatim for info and/or upload images for WP:RWM if needed. Nayayentalk 16:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles on LSO members Edit

Hey! Which members of the LSO should get articles? Should we vote? I think they all should, or at least the ones that performed during the movie score recordings. What do y'all think? Master Fredcerique 04:06, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Project name Edit

This project is not about world music that is authentic, which is what the phrase "real world music" means. It is about music that exists in the real world, which is correctly written "real-world music."

I made this fix in the RWM template, but I don't want to step on any toes by changing the name of a project I'm not involved in, so I leave that for a project member to address. Asithol 01:53, February 26, 2012 (UTC)